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Hardest fight

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The HARDEST monster fight, on the saturnus's moon.


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Gez

  

It's actually thanks to buggy nodes that the monsters fail to attack you. Rebuilding the nodes with a non-bogus nodebuilder breaks the effect. Ports that always unconditionally rebuild nodes also break the effect. Still, it's a pretty amusing effect, for a whole half-minute.

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Forli

  

When a map only has one sector, the monsters won't wake up from seeing the player and won't attack either, that's something I learned from testing custom monsters, but I'm not sure of why it happens.

 

My only guess is that there's probably some function that checks if a monster can see the player by comparing the heights of sectors or something like that, and since it cannot compare two sectors when there's only one it never gets called. That's only a guess, I really have no idea, I couldn't find anything when I googled it.

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smeghammer

  

errrmm... Yeah. They really don't. Its not as if they are dormant - they follow you. Even the archvile. It's slightly surreal having a mob of doom monsters following without attacking.

 

If that was used effectively, it might be cool. But to misquote Wolverine - it's a big square room...

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Pure Hellspawn

  
Map01: 6 shotgun guys in a square room. Shoot em with shotgun. The rest is a demon and some imps. Map02: In a decent sized square room with a barrage of monsters including an arch-vile. They don't attack you.

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    • By erzboesewicht · Posted
      Really good puzzle map in a big dark metal/stone building. It catches the atmosphere of Bob Evans' Eternal Doom stuff, and I think there are even some homages to some other Eternal Doom maps as well (for example, the big two-layered outdoor area looks a bit like the "amusement park" in MAP26).   In my experience the puzzles were a bit easier than in "Silures" or "Excalibur", but it's possible that having played a lot of puzzle map stuff since I played Eternal Doom, having played through the whole canon of Bob Evans and Jim Flynn, and liking to search for Doom secrets in every map has made me recognize certain tropes better. The puzzles I liked most were (the spoilers only give minor hints):
          Gameplay is good too, at the start ammo is scarce so the chainsaw and berserk are your friend, and midtiers say hello from the start on, but hitscanners are the biggest threat. Rockets should be saved for archviles until you find the first larger cache.   9,5/10
    • By Somniac · Posted
      Fun, challenging set of maps that looks much better than you might expect for the time it was made. These maps will still slap you around a bit on HMP if you're not staying sharp. The author is fond of Chaingunner ambushes which keep you on your toes. I didn't find the SSG until around MAP05, which was cool, I like when its not given out too early. Pistol-starting the last two maps is pretty tough, but doable.   The map designs do a really good job of letting the player see crucial areas from different angles through progression and the layouts are really tidy overall, and feel a bit more modern than a lot of other 94/95 maps I've played. There are some really nice large-scale vistas (like the start of MAP06), nice uses of verticality and a good mixture of tight and more open combat.   Recommended!
    • By Darman Macray · Posted
      Spectacular visuals and engaging combat make this an absolute must play. There's a puzzle with a "Shoot the thing" answer that kind of comes out of left field and can be an easy place to get stuck if you're not on your toes, but that hardly stops the map from being a thrilling masterpiece.
    • By Darman Macray · Posted
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