No End in Sight

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Emil "NaturalTvventy" Brundage Xaser Acheron Chris Lutz

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Oldschool 4-episode adventure for The Ultimate Doom, featuring some of the most devilish map design this side of 1994. 'Nuff said... ish.

Similar to DTWID, the spirit of id is ever-present, albeit cranked up to 11 with a devious new spin on the classic episodes' themes. Along the way, you'll enter parallel worlds, explore derelict spaceships still floating in the sky, and return to some eerily familiar locales on the far side of Phobos and beyond.

Credits

Plenty of folks! See "Full Credits" below.

Base

New from scratch

Build Time

Forever and a Half.

Editors Used

Various

Bugs

There's likely to be some roughness around the edges, given the wad's heritage, but hopefully nothing gamebreaking.

Special note: the normal/secret exits are NOT swapped in some E3 maps. This is NOT a bug. ;)




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Count651

  • 3
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This wad was quite a love/hate relationship for me. Episode 1 and 2 were fantastic. They flowed so well and were challenging without being stupid. Sadly once I got to episode 3 the wad took a turn for the worst. Most of episode 3 is too dark, too big, too confusing, and too full of mandatory damaging sectors without a radsuit. Episodes 1 and 2 were a blast but 3 and 4 just felt like a lot of work. I had to use the console to give myself radsuits and light amp goggles many times. Its no fun to find a secret soul sphere if you're just gonna burn it all away crossing lava without a radsuit. In the end I'd highly recommend the first 2 episodes. They're what Doom is all about; fast fun simple maps. The later half was quite the opposite.

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galileo31dos01

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  • 4
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Done on HMP/continuous/saves

 

This was so fun and challenging! Certainly a very well done megawad to feel nostalgic with its pace, the midis, the feeling of playing something made by the original authors of Doom. Very tough maps, since I played continuous, there was almost never a problem with ammo, but I still saw that for pistol starters the thing would be totally different. For the most part, great. 

 

What I found a little (too much) overused was many mandatory type 16 damaging floors (except the ones to get to secret exits) in some E3 maps, at least they were the minority. Some maps can be veeeery mazy, which is cool, for those maps I spent over 1 hour or 2. There is a bug in E4M7 with a pool of spectres that doesn't raise. Didn't play E1M0 and E4M0 as they are not supported by the ports I use, I'll try them someday...

 

In general, monster placement was fine for me. A couple of annoying moments, with lost souls, everywhere... E4M6 was incredibly long to maximize or complete, whatever the word is. I think I died a whole load of times there, every single monster from the tiniest to the biggest became a singular problem. Regardless, liked the map. Lovely ending in E4M8 to simulate hell's fall.

 

Secrets were very UD-ish, and a few very clever ones. Liked the secret hunt in E4M6, it's practically the most memorable episode for me lol.

 

So yeah, recommendable, my overall rate would be 8/10. 

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tourniquet

  • 5
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Bloody amazing!

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Zalewa

  • 5
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"Similar to DTWID" on steroids! This WAD is all that Ultimate Doom IWAD is but bigger in all aspects. The levels are large and very non-linear, the action is unrelenting, non-tedious and keeps you alert. The looks are excellent. E4 is a bit over the top, though. Don't approach it on UV without SSG and double ammo.
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Episode One feels boring... until E1M6, where enviroment starts to feel like Romero's Tech Gone Bad. Episode Four claims to take a place on Earth but overall maps are looking more like Doom 2 Hell. However, this is pretty good mapset.
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trrobin

  • 5
  

Absolutely amazing 4-episode wad. Excellent gameplay mechanics balanced with old school and newer (at times) designed areas. Secrets are difficult to find and some maps are quite vast so there is a lot of replay value here.

Very challenging difficulty towards the end too so be alert!

All in all, I loved this.

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Spectre01

  • 4
  

Nice Doom 1 megawad with a good difficulty curve across the 4 episodes. Starts similar to DTWID but eventually finds its own niche with a higher degree of challenge and some rather complex secrets. 4/5

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Manbou

  • 5
  
This wad reminds me of the good old DOOM. The tricks in this wad are really interesting and the secrets are really elaborate. My favorite map is E3M7. This is amazingly awesome. Great job.
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Mechadon

  • 5
  
Loved every second of this! Amazing job guys :D
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NuMetalManiak

  • 4
  
now this is a treat, lots of cool concepts in these maps, makes it all seem fresh, and many maps are quite fun too. some of the really long maps do get weary after a while though.
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Doomkid

  • 5
  
Good stuff right here
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    • By galileo31dos01 · Posted
      Done on HMP/continuous/saves.   A super solid mapset I had the pleasure to play. This one felt like a modern adaption to the old known Scythe, while bringing its own personal style: it is divided into episodes, difficulty progression is highly notable between them, but monster density remains on the low side. Visually remains on the classic side, starting with tech bases, always indoors, then slightly pushing the player into open spaces connected with caves and lava, and more fleshy/spooky environments nearly the end of the set. Personally, I really liked that purple sky in mid maps, an unusual color in the game. While the author kept it simple with texturing, there's a lot of work on atmosphere and connection between levels. More specifically, in most maps the starting place is the previous map's exit room. If not then you'll know where you'll going to be, again because of the theme's consistency, which I liked a lot. One thing to point out is the usage of darkness in at least one piece of every map, something that always gave a sense of insecurity, as monsters had an advantage I lacked, which was pretty cool and tense (map 25 last room is dark and brutal, one of the most memorable moments of the set imo).   The combat and layout are the most consistent and interesting sides of this wad. Monster count might not be too high, but the author worked it out in way that little can still be brutal. The first and second episode are very low-key, with some surprises to introduce the player into what's coming. Third and fourth are more trap-based and also introduces serious (but simple) platforming/chasms. Last two episodes are what Moonblood as been anticipating so far, all of the previous but in a much brutal and unforgiving way, also including hectic starts. On par with this difficulty progression, there's monster progression, this means that each monster is introduced in an old-school iwad way, only barons appear much later than I expected. In terms of layout progression, non-linearity is what rules, excellently done btw. The maps will give you the opportunity to choose your way to find resources and deal with monsters. Despite playing on continuous, I payed attention to the weapons placement: it's not your usual classic megawad, there's place and time for each weapon to be the star of the map, usually provided near the starting spot, so the player has an idea of how's the map going to turn out. This kind of pace was really appreciated, since I enjoy variety. A final boss is included to give a conclusion to the story (quite a nice story, if you want to understand the author's view it's here), always nice to see custom endings that don't have an IoS, always nice.    Secret-wise, these are not just your typical misaligned texture, with usage of the automap and a good ear you can find them all, but they usually take an extra effort to find, more often related to audible clues. They don't give you much in general though, this is probably the only downside as sometimes I found single medikits and I didn't need them at all, but perhaps pistol starters might appreciate them more... My favourite maps are from the fifth and sixth episode, the secret maps too, since there were more open layouts and mixing of every monster/weapon. I think there was no map I disliked, well maybe map 26 which was quite good except for the many imps on ledges lol.    Overall, I dig this gameplay, very exciting, recommendable for anyone looking for classic adapted to nowadays perspective, if that makes sense. Uh just try it, Scythe and Jenesis fans can't miss this, my rate is 9/10. 
    • By Eye del Cul · Posted
      Interesting, but I'm not a fan of hidden buttons and convoluted gameplay. 

       
    • By Nine Inch Heels · Posted
      This is one beautifully crafted piece of well orchestrated torture.   UV-difficulty is by no means suited for players inexperienced in the slaughter genre, and even on HMP you're expected to get the very basics right.   What starts as a series of smaller, moderately difficult, albeit punishing encounters in seperate areas of this map evolves into a full blown fight for survival that takes place almost across the entire map once you unleash the final wave of enemies.   The layout of this map is nothing short of effective. By the time you got your first set of guns you will already have several revenants, a vile and more coming for you, while at the same time this map manages to deny you any sort of comfortable "cubby" that you can start working from at your leisure. Unless you really cleared out an area in this map you best keep moving, because something will shoot at you from somewhere and when you get hit hard anywhere down the line it's probably gonna hurt a lot in the long run. But don't be fooled into thinking you're simply going to carve out some space where you like and it'll just stay that way, that's not how this map is going to play.   If you plan on beating this map on UV, you're gonna have to do some very careful planning in order to not get blasted from seemingly out of nowhere at the most inopportune moments and have enough resources left to deal with the final wave of flyers in a "safe" fashion, relatively speaking. Situational awareness at all times, and a proper route is key here.   This was a tough nut to crack, but I had a good time with it. If you're anything like me, and you like to play maps you need to sink your teeth into, this little gem here is well worth downloading.
    • By Agent6 · Posted
      So here goes yet another wad, still played through GZDoom's Software render like everything else.   What do I think? Well, compared to the other Doom wads I've played until now I must say that this was honestly the most fun and exciting of all of them. The levels have a great layout and good enemy placement. Although some maps, especially towards the end seem to go full b*llshit with the enemy count they were still really fun to play, quite unexpected to be honest since the difficult parts in the previous wads I played had the tendency to be really frustrating and often unfun, but for some reason that's not the case here.   Most levels don't rely on lots of textures but they're still pretty beautiful, and none of them drag on or are longer than they really should be, with easy to find secrets, some of them being out in plain sight and very easily accessible, which is a bit questionable indeed, and the most difficult levels seem to typically take place in red, hellish, cavernous areas. There aren't any maps that I dislike, probably because the gameplay is solid all the time, and they give you just enough resources, no war of attrition to be found here. My favorite level is going to be MAP11 Sneak Peak, I've seen maps and areas that make punching fun and satisfying, but so far none did it better than this one, just pure enjoyable punching to be found here, and the best part? Enough resources so the game doesn't descend into madness territory, or perhaps it does, in mad fun if you know what I mean. I must also admit, I did not expect to run into slaughter levels at all, but they were pretty nice and not insanely cruel, yet this stuff is way beyond my league. I managed to finish them after a number of failed attempts, but I'll likely not get serious about playing slaughter wads in the future, it's just neither my thing nor is it for me and my skill level. No shame in admitting this.   My only gripe would be with the last map. And I thought post-MAP24 levels in Memento Mori 2 were annoying with their enemy counts and scarce resources, but since this one is a slaughter level as well just like the few ones that came before, and unlike the typical Icon of Sin kind of final maps, it's full of waves of Revenants, Cyberdemons, Barons, and other strong enemies, a really, really difficult and tricky map which can be confusing and frustrating at times, but it doesn't mock you with giving you few power ups and ammo and let you die in agony. I'm just so damn glad to be done with it, I don't want to ever see something like this before me again, the horrors of hell will haunt my dreams forever. I also think that forced pistol starting levels wasn't a bad idea at all, but rather an interesting concept, with great balance, and definitely much better than making maps with crap encounters, tons of traps, scarce resources, and so on just to provide an artificial challenge to the player. They can be a bit difficult, but you only need to be careful, and fast sometimes, they're very far from insane. The timed level Run from It was just as interesting, but I had to Google a little after I died a few times because I couldn't understand what's going on in this map and why I keep dying out of the blue.   The music is also fantastic, the songs which play on MAP19 3000 AD and MAP20 The Starport being my favorite of all. Bit of a shame that it doesn't feature a complete replacement of the vanilla Doom music though. Other than this, to sum things up, this wad should definitely be considered a classic from my point of view, it's a fine candidate to the title, damn fun and solid, I loved it.
    • By Meril · Posted
      Only first map is good, where you must run away from cacos. but when you get ssg everything becomes bad. Visualy this wad is below average (from 1995) missaligned textures, very big square rooms. At least no maze included. Maps 01-03 have a lot of backtracking, and switch hunting, but they are easy to find. Map 04 has INSANELY high lift. One way lasts so long, that you can go make dinner, clean your room, drink some beer, and still wait for it.  Overall waste of time, but not terrible. Just below average of 95 wads.