No End in Sight

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Author

Emil "NaturalTvventy" Brundage Xaser Acheron Chris Lutz

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Oldschool 4-episode adventure for The Ultimate Doom, featuring some of the most devilish map design this side of 1994. 'Nuff said... ish.

Similar to DTWID, the spirit of id is ever-present, albeit cranked up to 11 with a devious new spin on the classic episodes' themes. Along the way, you'll enter parallel worlds, explore derelict spaceships still floating in the sky, and return to some eerily familiar locales on the far side of Phobos and beyond.

Credits

Plenty of folks! See "Full Credits" below.

Base

New from scratch

Build Time

Forever and a Half.

Editors Used

Various

Bugs

There's likely to be some roughness around the edges, given the wad's heritage, but hopefully nothing gamebreaking.

Special note: the normal/secret exits are NOT swapped in some E3 maps. This is NOT a bug. ;)




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Zalewa

  • 5
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"Similar to DTWID" on steroids! This WAD is all that Ultimate Doom IWAD is but bigger in all aspects. The levels are large and very non-linear, the action is unrelenting, non-tedious and keeps you alert. The looks are excellent. E4 is a bit over the top, though. Don't approach it on UV without SSG and double ammo.
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  • 4
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Episode One feels boring... until E1M6, where enviroment starts to feel like Romero's Tech Gone Bad. Episode Four claims to take a place on Earth but overall maps are looking more like Doom 2 Hell. However, this is pretty good mapset.
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galileo31dos01

· Edited by galileo31dos01

  • 4
  

Done on HMP/continuous/saves

 

This was so fun and challenging! Certainly a very well done megawad to feel nostalgic with its pace, the midis, the feeling of playing something made by the original authors of Doom. Very tough maps, since I played continuous, there was almost never a problem with ammo, but I still saw that for pistol starters the thing would be totally different. For the most part, great. 

 

What I found a little (too much) overused was many mandatory type 16 damaging floors (except the ones to get to secret exits) in some E3 maps, at least they were the minority. Some maps can be veeeery mazy, which is cool, for those maps I spent over 1 hour or 2. There is a bug in E4M7 with a pool of spectres that doesn't raise. Didn't play E1M0 and E4M0 as they are not supported by the ports I use, I'll try them someday...

 

In general, monster placement was fine for me. A couple of annoying moments, with lost souls, everywhere... E4M6 was incredibly long to maximize or complete, whatever the word is. I think I died a whole load of times there, every single monster from the tiniest to the biggest became a singular problem. Regardless, liked the map. Lovely ending in E4M8 to simulate hell's fall.

 

Secrets were very UD-ish, and a few very clever ones. Liked the secret hunt in E4M6, it's practically the most memorable episode for me lol.

 

So yeah, recommendable, my overall rate would be 8/10. 

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tourniquet

  • 5
  

Bloody amazing!

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Spectre01

  • 4
  

Nice Doom 1 megawad with a good difficulty curve across the 4 episodes. Starts similar to DTWID but eventually finds its own niche with a higher degree of challenge and some rather complex secrets. 4/5

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Manbou

  • 5
  
This wad reminds me of the good old DOOM. The tricks in this wad are really interesting and the secrets are really elaborate. My favorite map is E3M7. This is amazingly awesome. Great job.
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Mechadon

  • 5
  
Loved every second of this! Amazing job guys :D
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NuMetalManiak

  • 4
  
now this is a treat, lots of cool concepts in these maps, makes it all seem fresh, and many maps are quite fun too. some of the really long maps do get weary after a while though.
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Doomkid

  • 5
  
Good stuff right here
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    • By SP_FACE1 · Posted
      This mapset consist of three levels. The first two are enormous and the final one is a Doom 2 like end map.   The first level is a techbase map. It was released first as a separate map to replace E2M8. It's style is reminiscent of episode 1 and episode 2 base levels with small abstract hellish areas and caves here and there. You begin your quest in a subway car which has brought you to this huge base with empty halls and spacey, dimly lit corridors. The author says in the description that the levels aim to give the player a feeling of exploration and that's what I got right from the start. This sentiment is emphasized by the soothing and a bit eerie ambient soundtrack which is a very good fit for the level. I don't usually pay that much attention to music but now I did because it was such a suitable choice.   The visual style is a bit more detailed than Doom's original techbase theme. However the detailing varies a lot. Sometimes you come across plainly textured, full lit rooms that take you back to the nineties and then later you encounter other areas with more details. The areas near the start were less good-looking than the later parts.   The layout is very interconnected. Especially in the beginning you can find multiple semi-secret panels that take you to a corridor which connects to the other side of the level. The level opens passages like this the more you progress.   The pace of the level is pretty relaxed. As mentioned in the beginning you are greeted with empty areas and silence. Some monsters will show up after a while and the enemy fights in the beginning areas are more of the in your face type. I usually evaded the first encounters and run around larger herds which turned out to be a good strategy as I found higher grounds to shoot at them.   After you get the blue keycard and go south to the blue door area the enemies appear more from a distance such as on top of crates or behind grills on the walls. This area contained a lot of cannon fodder, Zombies, Sergeants and Imps. It was very soothing to kill them en masse. You still get enemies on your face too. The visual style also got better. There was more consistent detailing and the rooms got more vertical.   The area behind yellow door continued the same rhythm, you entered peaceful and spacious areas, sometimes enemies run after you, sometimes you get to slay them from a distance. The open area with the zigzag path and pillars over the slime was a good fight. The walls were filled with Imps shooting you from the distance while Cacodemons were flying in the middle and you had to run around the path shooting rockets while avoiding falling down to the slime.   After the second half I started to run out of ammo more than once. Well, I had a lot of plasma ammo but I had no plasma rifle. If I'm not mistaken you only get the plasma rifle after the Cyberdemon fight which I think was not fair. That fight would have been much more fun with a plasma gun.   The fight before the exit is probably the roughest. You get a lot of Demons, Barons and a Spider Mastermind. But in the end it's not that big of an issue because you can compartmentalize them in a room and shoot them through the windows or make them fight each other.   It took me almost an hour to finish the map even though I did not get lost. It was a pleasure to stroll through the map and admire the areas despite the small throwbacks to the nineties here and there :) I think the author succeeded very well to give the player the feeling of exploration in the first map.   The second map is visually a Doom 2 abstract hell kind of a map. Actually it has almost all kinds of areas. Caves, rocky cliffs, lava, slime, organic, gothic, marble and what have you. Whereas the first map has a slower, almost wandering pace with a hauntingly soothing ambient track the second map is more hectic, aggressive and it has a metal song as soundtrack. The fights didn't always feel fun. There were too many Chaingunners at distance. The open area with the Quake's Q logo on the ground was the first time I thought I'm gonna IDDQD if this hitscanning continues. And it sadly did but thankfully not all the time. In general this map is much more slaughtery than the first one. Also this map is much larger than the first one and there are over a thousand monsters. I must say I did not find that many things to like in this map. I did not get any feeling of exploration here. The layout was confusing. It didn't feel interconnected at all. Yes, there were teleporters but it's always hard to figure out where they take you. Also killing started to feel almost like work at times and after one hour I was considering giving up on the map. The western part of the map was dedicated to getting the blue key. The eastern part was for acquiring the yellow key. And in the middle you entered the area for the red key and exit. That sounds simple but it wasn't. I got frustrated and lost more than once. I was at loss what the various buttons were supposed to open. It didn't help that the abstract hellish landscape of Doom 2 is not my favorite theme. I also think the styles changed too much. But there were some areas that I liked. For example, the section with organic texturing was one of the best parts in the level. Other good areas were the library and the red gothic cathedral.   The third and last map was almost a traditional Romero's head end game map but instead you had to push two buttons to finish it. The music choice for this map was weird. I guess in some sense it fits the level. I was pretty exhausted from the second map and I rushed the final map as fast as I could.     TL;DR
      The first map is without a doubt the strongest. Vast, interconnected and explorative techbase map with some nice detailing, relaxing pace, interesting fights and great ambient music. The second map is a gigantic level with a mish mash of styles. At times it feels like your are working at Switch Hunting Incorporated instead of enjoying a game and then you get perforated by a Chaingunner. The last map is OK but I'm not sure if it was that necessary. In fact the levels feel so different from each other that I wonder if it was a good idea to combine them into one WAD.
    • By felgro · Posted
      This is a very good map that has a little bit of everything and actually is vanilla friendly.
    • By Doomkid · Posted
      A very classic style mapset in terms of layouts and visuals, but a nice challenge - not too hard, not too easy. Enjoyable to play through for sure. Music was a mix of good and terrible MIDIs based on great songs. Great effort here!
    • By valkiriforce · Posted
      Loved this whole set - I can relate to a lot of the ideas present in this wad. The interesting layouts and encounters were ringing all the right bells for me; not to sound arrogant but it almost felt like I was playing something I made from the future. My only complaint is that it came and went too fast - wish it had more maps but I found it to be a very solid experience for something of a mini-episode. It could be seen as a plus though since I guess it'd be easier to revisit something that isn't as long as most other mapsets that go up to 11 or beyond. Also great use of Sega Genesis/Megadrive music on the maps - really hope this author puts out more maps one day.
    • By valkiriforce · Posted
      This was like a nice modern take on something inspired from The Innocent Crew with strokes of Matthias Worch - all of which I know the author Brian Knox took inspiration from beforehand. The first episode didn't do a whole lot for me but it really started to pick up in the later parts leading up to episode 2 and onward. Great soundtrack from the talented John Weekley and a few guest maps to mix things up a little. I played on HNTR for a more casual experience and felt even there some parts of the megawad felt rather cruel - namely in the third episode. Overall I had a blast going through this wad finally after so long and was rather surprised to find a collab map between me and DeathevocatioN find its way into the mapset.