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Doom II: Dark World [v1.0]

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Replay the original eleven maps from Doom II in a more hellish, harder state. Made from scratch while referring to the original maps.


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silentzorah

  

Great concept, but I felt the execution was a bit lacking.  The maps aren't too detailed compared to today's standards, and I felt that for a wad called "Dark World," the maps were actually quite bright.  Maybe darkening them a bit could help mask the lower detail.  Difficulty was good, some decent traps here and there.

 

Not awful, but not stellar.  It's a thing that exists, I guess.

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Nems

  

This is a very fun, albeit tougher remix of the first eleven maps of Doom 2. The design is familiar enough to be recognizable while still doing its own thing. I just wish there was more than just these 11 levels because I would have liked to see what they would have done with the other levels.

 

I'd still heartily recommend this. <3

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Dedalus 80

  

Beautiful, demanding and engaging mapset. The difficulty level is (too?) high in the latest maps. Recommended.

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Summer Deep

  

This is a strange mixture. A more 'hellish' and, overall, more difficult version of the maps it's based on. Nonetheless, the consistency varies widely.

 

 I didn't die or save once in the first five levels, but then the fun starts. Level six is much tougher, with a crazy finale featuring instantly respawning arachnotrons - one of them revived itself five times before it was permanently extinguished. Level seven, based on 'Dead Simple' of course, presents an archvile-based encore which will cause most players considerable frustration.

 

 Things then settle down again: maps 8 and 9 are not notably harder than the originals, and map 10 has plenty of health and ammo (plus two invincibility spheres). The final level is a somewhat challenging one, in which killing everything, certainly if playing on the top difficulty setting, is probably impossible, most obviously in the exit room. 

 

This is an attractive mapset, visually pleasing and imaginative, and with generally solid gameplay. I just wish the author could have achieved a more evenly graduated  difficulty curve, and maybe toned down the occasional excesses. Overall I'd give it 4+ out of 5.

 

Played on UV, continuous, GLBoom+.

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KVELLER

  

I think I like the concept of this more than the maps themselves. There are some HUGE difficulty spikes, and sometimes it may even come off as unbalanced (although that's kind of subjective).

 

MAP07 has an over abundance of Arch-Viles IMO (seriously, how many did you put in there??) and it gets old really damn fast.

 

And the end of MAP11... A small arena with a Mastermind, surrounded by Revenants behind fake walls and with most of the area covered in damaging floors, with a few safe spots to walk on. That's when I gave up. I probably could have beaten the map anyways, but I just couldn't be bothered. I had stopped being fun, for me at least.

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Zalewa

  

There's a nasty increase in difficulty in the latter maps, but in overall this is a good "reimagination". All levels are instantly familiar, but also changed in ways that make this a fresh experience.

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NuMetalManiak

  

this is the kind of wad that is like if Doom 2 Meets ZDoom meets Doom II: Hellscape, with some Switcheroom dashes to it (especially since there are some Switcheroom 2 maps that are made to be hellish). mostly good maps, EXCEPTING MAP06 and MAP07. god, MAP06 was unbelievably fucking frustrating to play through. the crusher doesn't even work right when i was there, and i spent the good time believing i was stuck. also, there's a number of permanently missable secrets too, and the ambushes are EVIL. MAP07 for some reason glitched out with one of the 667 tags, meaning i had to cheat my way out of that one, oh and fuck that cyberdemon.

 

but otherwise, the rest of the maps played out just fine.

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jwilliams051197

  

A pretty well done wad. Can't wait for other versions.

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jwilliams051197

  

A pretty well done wad. Can't wait for other versions.

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Classicgamer6

  

The idea behind of this set of levels was to remake the first eleven episodes of Doom 2 but to be harder and have a hellish landscape. While the mapper did an excellent job in making nice looking hell inspired levels they did not do as well when it comes to the overall difficulty. This won't be a walk in the park for less experienced Doom players, but will be easy for those who know the vanilla maps and are used to the more difficult user levels. Recommended for those who want to see a nice hell level inspired rendition of early Doom 2 levels.

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Kaitocain

  

The Difficulty is a bit out of wack, but outside of Map06, the entire mapset was well done and quite entertaining to play.

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    • By amackert · Posted
      Visually there is a ton of attention to detail which is always a treat to look at, and the actual map designs of the first four episodes are very well done. I enjoy the "new" monsters and some of the upgraded weapons, it definitely makes certain parts of it feel fresh compared to the typical wad. The challenge on UV was just right for me with few if any parts being too overwhelming. Overall it gets a 4/5 from me because I wasn't a big fan of the fifth episode set of maps, both thematically and gameplay-wise. Ammo starvation was real there in those last few maps which isn't a lot of fun to me, not to mention its too drastic of a change compared to how the rest of the wad plays. Also, thematically I feel like these end-game maps would have made a bigger splash as mid-game maps, not finale maps. Great idea with the final boss mix-up though, I enjoyed that. I do still prefer Ancient Aliens as a whole (a wad that I feel is much better balanced overall and is more interesting of an experience), but Valiant still comes highly recommended from me.
    • By hardcore_gamer · Posted
      I agree with BChricton78. Rather than being fun to play, this remake just highlights how massive of a difference good lightning and texturing makes to a level/game. I know this isn't the fault of the makers of this mod since they were merely remaking the original Doom 64 levels, but these levels frankly aren't very great when stripped of the improved Doom 64 graphics. So much in fact that it makes me wonder how important level layouts even are compared to other aspects of the visual presentation such as texturing, lightning and rendering.
    • By silentzorah · Posted
      Good stuff.  Only giving it four stars because though the new music was good, I just wish there was more of it.  Still, this wad is absolutely worth your time.
    • By BChricton78 · Posted
      Umm... From the brief snippet I played, I'd definitely give them an A for effort... But this just feels... wrong to me. I'm sorry but playing Doom 64, without the lighting, atmosphere, redone sprites and ambient music? No thanks. It just takes away the things that make Doom 64 so special. Still a nice little attempt at recapturing Doom 64, but I'm better off with Doom 64 EX, for my fix.
    • By Agent6 · Posted
      And thus, oh you know what I'm going to say already, Doom 64 for Doom II has been finished, played through GlBoom+ 2.5.1.5 on UV.   So for an introduction, as the name implies D64D2 is a recreation of the classic Doom 64 originally released as a console exclusive for the N64. It aims to recreate the levels along with their gameplay using mostly vanilla Doom II resources. It features a new menu background, ENDOOM screen, new music, a few new enemies, namely the Nightmare Imp and Cacodemon as well as the final boss the Mother Demon, a few new textures, new intermission messages, a new end level screen, but no custom sounds or weapons, meaning that the unique and iconic Unmaker was not recreated in any way.   For a recreation, I must say that the levels and their gameplay come quite close to the original Doom 64, nonetheless various liberties have been taken in different forms, ranging from new takes on various puzzles to completely new levels, as well as the usage of the enemies who were absent from the original due to memory limitations. The usage of enemies who were absent from the original game comes with mixed results as it doesn't always work, probably one of the most obvious flaws in the game. This is most noticeable primarily in the levels that came closest to their D64 counterpart as the environment was clearly not designed with them in mind. For instance, you'll encounter Revenants on narrow corridors quite often, and sometimes even Arch-Viles. This isn't a problem in larger areas where it's usually quite fun to fight them, but not in those particular areas. Chaingunners do seem to work quite well however since they can easily blend with the rest of the hitscanners.   Compared to the original D64, a major difference is the tone and atmosphere of the game. D64 was slower paced and more atmospheric, whereas D64D2 is faster paced and puts less emphasis of that element, supported by the amazing but more action/fun oriented soundtrack. Perhaps the darker, much more hellish levels such as Unholy Temple are the most atmospheric levels in the entire game, and also the best looking. Unholy Temple is definitely my favorite level in D64D2.   While on the subject of changes, some of them are very interesting. In the Void is probably the most surprising for me. The original map featured a light blue sky and a rather foggy atmosphere while the level itself was pretty bright, how does this map look like in D64D2? Well, it seems to literally take place in a void now. Indeed, the sky is now pitch black but luckily poor visibility in the level itself was avoided, at least for the most part, so there's no difficulty in seeing the enemies and where they are. It's a change that works quite well, unlike others. The most drastic changes were probably done to The Absolution, where you can now locate 3 skulls, but in order to reach them you need to complete their own puzzles first, and they're not the exciting or fun type. The room with the yellow skull was probably the only one that was fun, the others? Well, for the red skull you have to go through an awkward platforming section where everything, including the enemies are... cloaked in darkness, while the room with the blue skull features a puzzle similar to the one seen in the room with the red key (Demon Key on the original D64) on Outpost Omega, except that it's longer, more complex, and more tedious. Not exactly changes done for the better. I don't know how exactly they impact the level though, but in my playthrough I didn't even fight the Mother Demon after aquiring all skulls, I just heard her screaming once while I was fighting the teleporting enemies thinking that she finally showed up to the battle, only for the end level screen to appear immediately afterwards, so I assume she died somehow.   D64D2 also comes with some exclusive levels that were not part of the original D64, and I personally think they're little more than filler maps. They're not awful but nowhere near great either, and I'm unable to find any valid reason for their existence. This is primarily due to their nature. Their gameplay style and tone is very different from all the other levels and in consequence, they feel out of place, not mixing well with the rest of the maps. Still, at least they're very short and straightforward so you don't waste much time with them. And while on the subject, some of the secret levels from the original have been turned into regular maps, meaning that you don't have to search for secret exits to access them anymore. One such example is the previously mentioned Outpost Omega.   All things considered, D64D2 manages to capture the spirit of D64 while also making plenty of changes, yet generally remaining faithful to the original. Some changes might have been done for the worse, but there's plenty done for the better as well. It's pretty short and easy, just like the original, so it can be finished in a day, you can't go wrong with it. A collective effort for an ambitious project that should be well worth your time if you like Doom 64 and want to see a different take on it.
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