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Doom II: Dark World [v1.0]

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Replay the original eleven maps from Doom II in a more hellish, harder state. Made from scratch while referring to the original maps.


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silentzorah

  

Great concept, but I felt the execution was a bit lacking.  The maps aren't too detailed compared to today's standards, and I felt that for a wad called "Dark World," the maps were actually quite bright.  Maybe darkening them a bit could help mask the lower detail.  Difficulty was good, some decent traps here and there.

 

Not awful, but not stellar.  It's a thing that exists, I guess.

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Nems

  

This is a very fun, albeit tougher remix of the first eleven maps of Doom 2. The design is familiar enough to be recognizable while still doing its own thing. I just wish there was more than just these 11 levels because I would have liked to see what they would have done with the other levels.

 

I'd still heartily recommend this. <3

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Dedalus 80

  

Beautiful, demanding and engaging mapset. The difficulty level is (too?) high in the latest maps. Recommended.

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Summer Deep

  

This is a strange mixture. A more 'hellish' and, overall, more difficult version of the maps it's based on. Nonetheless, the consistency varies widely.

 

 I didn't die or save once in the first five levels, but then the fun starts. Level six is much tougher, with a crazy finale featuring instantly respawning arachnotrons - one of them revived itself five times before it was permanently extinguished. Level seven, based on 'Dead Simple' of course, presents an archvile-based encore which will cause most players considerable frustration.

 

 Things then settle down again: maps 8 and 9 are not notably harder than the originals, and map 10 has plenty of health and ammo (plus two invincibility spheres). The final level is a somewhat challenging one, in which killing everything, certainly if playing on the top difficulty setting, is probably impossible, most obviously in the exit room. 

 

This is an attractive mapset, visually pleasing and imaginative, and with generally solid gameplay. I just wish the author could have achieved a more evenly graduated  difficulty curve, and maybe toned down the occasional excesses. Overall I'd give it 4+ out of 5.

 

Played on UV, continuous, GLBoom+.

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KVELLER

  

I think I like the concept of this more than the maps themselves. There are some HUGE difficulty spikes, and sometimes it may even come off as unbalanced (although that's kind of subjective).

 

MAP07 has an over abundance of Arch-Viles IMO (seriously, how many did you put in there??) and it gets old really damn fast.

 

And the end of MAP11... A small arena with a Mastermind, surrounded by Revenants behind fake walls and with most of the area covered in damaging floors, with a few safe spots to walk on. That's when I gave up. I probably could have beaten the map anyways, but I just couldn't be bothered. I had stopped being fun, for me at least.

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Zalewa

  

There's a nasty increase in difficulty in the latter maps, but in overall this is a good "reimagination". All levels are instantly familiar, but also changed in ways that make this a fresh experience.

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NuMetalManiak

  

this is the kind of wad that is like if Doom 2 Meets ZDoom meets Doom II: Hellscape, with some Switcheroom dashes to it (especially since there are some Switcheroom 2 maps that are made to be hellish). mostly good maps, EXCEPTING MAP06 and MAP07. god, MAP06 was unbelievably fucking frustrating to play through. the crusher doesn't even work right when i was there, and i spent the good time believing i was stuck. also, there's a number of permanently missable secrets too, and the ambushes are EVIL. MAP07 for some reason glitched out with one of the 667 tags, meaning i had to cheat my way out of that one, oh and fuck that cyberdemon.

 

but otherwise, the rest of the maps played out just fine.

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jwilliams051197

  

A pretty well done wad. Can't wait for other versions.

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jwilliams051197

  

A pretty well done wad. Can't wait for other versions.

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Classicgamer6

  

The idea behind of this set of levels was to remake the first eleven episodes of Doom 2 but to be harder and have a hellish landscape. While the mapper did an excellent job in making nice looking hell inspired levels they did not do as well when it comes to the overall difficulty. This won't be a walk in the park for less experienced Doom players, but will be easy for those who know the vanilla maps and are used to the more difficult user levels. Recommended for those who want to see a nice hell level inspired rendition of early Doom 2 levels.

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Kaitocain

  

The Difficulty is a bit out of wack, but outside of Map06, the entire mapset was well done and quite entertaining to play.

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    • By Nine Inch Heels · Posted
      I've never done a review for a rocket jump WAD, so this might turn out somewhat like a ramble. Apologies in advance if it does.   I picked up RJSLOTH while learning the most basic things about rocket jump maps. That said, I really should have waited with this WAD until later, when I'd be more consistent with basically everything this genre entails. For those of you who have never made contact with this genre I'll have a short description in the spoiler below:

          Even map 02, in spite of being dated in the sense that it was made prior to some discoveries in rocket jumping, turned out to be somewhat demanding at first. However, as is the case with many ToD maps, there are consistency checks here that really helped me to get some moves into my muscle memory with brute force. Especially things that require precise timing are something that you either learn to do properly while you play this, or you give up trying. The map also features some "combo-jumps" in places, basically as "highlights" of a given section to round off the package. I'm glad I didn't give up. Beating map 02 felt really good.   As for map 10, which is a brutally tuned up version of map 02: You're looking at something that seems to have been built in a laboratory with a calculator. Each one of the jumps there requires extreme precision, and if you're anything like me, which means you're still looking to become consistent with the techniques for "(relatively) modern rocket jumping", you should only attempt this map during a weekend or so, because it could take you "some" time to nail these trick shots perfectly. I didn't manage to finish this map yet, but from the obstacles I have made it past I can tell that this map, as well as map 06 of this WAD, is aimed at people who can do certain tricks of ZDaemon rocket jumping blindfolded. Being able to build maps like this, so precise and unforgiving without feeling totally unfair is an impressive feat for sure, but for my tastes and current skills it is almost impossible to "digest", also due to the sheer size of map10. I will come back to it eventually though, because I wanna see the end of it.   The only reason I'm not putting down 5 stars here is that these maps are a little bit too repetitive for my liking in places. Obviously that's an easy impression to get when I can't do things very cleanly, which results in repeated attempts, so take this reason with a grain of salt and you'll be fine.
    • By galileo31dos01 · Posted
      Done with these settings:   - GLBoom+ 2.5.1.4. complevel 9
      - Ultra-Violence
      - Continuous combined with pistol start mindset.
      - Saves every 10 minutes or so.   This is a slightly improved sequel of a mediocre megawad. It has no story whatsoever, not that it needs one, it's practically designed without an overarching theme and focused on Boom compatibility, something that the prequel didn't communicate very well. Although you rarely see tricks like conveyors and silent teleports put to specific purposes, they're mostly for the atmosphere. A couple of maps use custom colormaps in particular setpieces. One is to simulate immersion in toxic, and the other in blood, or perhaps portals to hell?. Anyway, Community Chest 2 has some nice visuals using stock textures. While not every map looks great, a bunch are simply awe-inspiring because of the author's creativity. I dig the idea in "Death Mountain", the sinuous terrain with mounds everywhere is very neat, as it's theoretically a mountain floating in the air. My only gripe is the trees are placed to get stuck in. Other locations are plain techbases, brown caverns, wooden complexes, Inferno-styled hell and unknown places. Most of the music available are tracks from other wads and games, with only one self-made piece for map 24 by the same author, an amazing melody by the way. I would suggest to add your own tracks for the maps lacking them, for a stronger experience if it helps.   For those who have played the prequel first, and I'm sure everyone did, there are quite a few familiar names to be found, some of which contributed with more than one map. Gene Bird cooked around five for example, evoking a conservative "rooms with monsters" 90's style. His maps don't vary in any aspect to each other, nor to his previous works in Community Chest 1 unfortunately, but they blend well enough with the tone of the mapset. The first map is already by Erik Alm in his well-known Scythe fashion. Then we have individual entries from Andy Leaver, Kaiser and Use3d, the latter came as an improvement to be honest. On the other hand, a big portion of the people involved were completely new to me, and that's when I had to expect the unexpected, sort of. I'd say the maps had their ups and downs, generally enjoyable if some exceptions. They were also organized in a very random way, but that's no news. Just like a traditional community project, this megawad features a wide range of concepts, layouts, and forms to entertain the player, for better or worse. Fans of old-school and/or adventure maps will be delighted, as there are a lot of them in all sizes and difficulties, even several inspired by the original Doom levels. The obvious standout is "The Mucus Flow", a brutal map that can only be understood with patience and dedication, mostly the former one, and heavy chainsaw practicing. Besides, its curvy "mint-chocolate" design is beautiful and unique, or used to be, since tons of future releases found inspiration from it (e.g. Speed of Doom). A shame it has glitches in the sky. There are other remarkable moments to be experienced, such as to explore a city in depth to figure out the secret exit, or to fall in a sequence of fake exits that only exposes you in circles of chaingunners. I'm not sure how others will take it, but I couldn't hold my laugh after the second time.   Secret-wise, the first thing to know is that PRBoom users need to activate the "Linedefs w/o tags apply locally" option to enable access to some ZDoom-only secrets in maps 06 and 24. There is also a secret in map 20 that requires an archvile jump, but it's not possible to reach it outside of ZDoom versions. Other than those, hope your sense of exploration is wide awake, as there is plenty to locate and highly appreciate. I'm thinking of the standout map, of course. For favourite maps I will pick 19, 24, 27, and 31. Some others like 06, 13, 23 and 32 were entertaining for the most part, but not convincing as a whole. The rest range from good to dull or tedious, like the final map.    Overall, it's certainly an upgrade in quality, and I'm inclined to believe the successors are much better. Still, it's nice to traverse the history of the community chest projects. If you and I share similar tastes, then you'll probably find content to enjoy here, and if not, well, skip the unnecessary. My rate is 6/10.  
    • By tempdecal.wad · Posted
      It's bad because it's hard.
    • By Nems · Posted
      Should have been called "Doom 64 for Boom".   I really wanted to like this more. I mean, I do like it but I feel like the gripes I have regarding it just bring my overall rating for it down too much.   It was interesting to see how, at first, the authors recreated the Doom 64 levels in Doom 2 with just vanilla assets. You can still see some of that in the Boom levels like how revenants and arch-viles are used in place of where traps where. That was an interesting touch and I liked that.   As I got further into it though and more of the Boom tricks were used my thoughts wandered from "hey this is a nice vanilla interpretation" to "man I could be playing Doom 64 EX or Doom 64 Retribution". I really wish they would have stuck with vanilla constraints for this reinterpretation. I would have liked to see how they would have handed nightmare monster placement (would a nightmare imp be worth two imps or three, for example). I feel like using Boom and DeHacked cheapened the experience, like they were trying to replicate Doom 64 as close as possible rather than doing a vanilla Doom (2) interpretation.   Additionally, map 30 can fuck right the hell off with that puzzle bullshit.   Anyway, if you don't mind any of the complaints I made, you'll likely have fun with this. I got some fun out of this as well but to me it feels like it's trying to be exactly like Doom 64 rather than simply a vanilla Doom 2 interpretation of Doom 64. In trying to be exactly like Doom 64, it just makes me want to play that more than this.
    • By Marlamir · Posted
      Pretty good. The combat was fun and design wasn't bad at all.
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