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Doom 3: Primary Exavation Site

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This is a map for Doom 2 made with the 256 color version of the new "Doom 3 for Doom 2 Textures" WAD.


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TheV1perK1ller

  

I had a lot of fun with this. I absolutely love the Doom 3 textures being put to use, too. Excellent atmosphere, and probably one of the more 'fitting' uses of RSKY1 I've seen in quite some time. This level strongly encourages the player to thoroughly explore for secrets, otherwise your ammo count would always end up getting tight.

 

I would have given this 5 stars, had it not been for two things:

 

1) As mentioned before, ammo was particularly short towards the beginning. When I first played this I struggled with trying to conserve my Shotgun shells - having a Chaingun instead of having to resort to the Pistol might've been an improvement, although this didn't really bother me too much in all honesty.

 

2) Towards the end, I had an issue where picking up the yellow keycard made three nearby Imps atop of the cliff-faces unkillable. Not exactly sure what happened here, just make sure to kill them before collecting the key if you wish for a 100% kill rate.

 

Other than that, this was excellently done. Good job, Romulus!  :D

 

 

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YouAreTheDemons

  

Barely playable. You're given bare armaments, and have to contend with using a shotgun against Hellknights and Revenants until you drop down a hole, get stuck in a maze of tunnels filled with enemies, and then find yourself in an outdoor area, still unarmed, but surrounded by enemies. Honestly, I think Sisyphus has it easier.

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The_SloVinator

  

Well done! Someone should actually remake this in Doom 3. That would be sweet!

 

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HAK3180

  

When I was in school, 4 out of 5 was a C, and this is better than that, though not pure 5 star material. 

 

The layout/flow is really cool. There's enough to explore without it really being an exploratory map, and you pretty much always know where you're going. I got lost for ten minutes, but that was entirely my fault (I missed a pretty obvious door), and knowing what I ultimately had to do/where I ultimately had to go led me in the right direction.

 

I think there are too many secrets. Missing a lot of them combined with a tight ammo situation could leave you a bit frustrated, especially toward the beginning.

 

The combat is solid throughout with a few memorable moments: one where monsters have the higher ground and you have to pick them off/move up carefully, one where you get locked into close quarters with an arch-vile and others with minimal cover, and one involving barrels, other obstructions, and a large rocket-launching enemy.

 

 

Overall, it's a nice looking, good playing map with a sense of adventure and some uniqueness. 

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Zalewa

  

This is a really great map with some rough start that may leave you a tad annoyed but if you persevere you will be content. Difficulty is moderate, though ammo is limited and you will be in some tight spaces here and there. I don't dig the D64 sounds and music, as always.

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    • By el macho gaming · Posted
      I like the the sprites and the mechanics of the gun is cool just as advertised Can I use some of the sprites for my wad?
    • By Dari · Posted
      An ancient wad, featured in the wad compilation NEWDOOM.WAD. Like most wads of the time, stepping into the wrong room will get your shit rocked (don't go in a straight line from the beginning!). Otherwise, it was a decently fun level, visuals are acceptable for the time, layout's alright.
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    • By ETTiNGRiNDER · Posted
      This one is all over the place with several disparate "chapters" to how it progresses linked vaguely by themes of texture choice, and it's mostly not good; at times I felt like the author was trying to make the most infuriating level possible.  One of the biggest issues is the seeming obsession with timed door scenarios, where you trigger a switch, then have to run somewhere else to get through a door before it closes again.  These are placed over and over again across the map, and the first couple, before you work out that they're the main gimmick of the map, are pretty cryptic in trying to figure out what the switches do.  From then on it's kind of "oh, it's THIS again, couldn't it be something different?"  As the fighter, none of them were bad enough to force speedrun tactics, but they were tight enough to be annoying and would probably be even more so as one of the slower classes.   In the beginning, you're in sort of a dark labyrinth of waterways and caves, and it's a bit difficult to navigate where you're going in the darkness; there's a torch that you might want to burn early, but there are later parts of the map where it would also be useful so there's a tradeoff in saving it or not.  This part of the map is also pretty brutal when it comes to count and nastiness of monsters vs. the available resources, tending to result in the hard beginning, easier later type of issue though it never quite gets generous enough to be super easy.   Breaking past the start you come across the dam proper, which is huge, and has some fiddly jumping and ledge hugging (along with the timed door gimmick, which here can potentially kill you if you don't get through certain tunnels before the polyobject comes back and crushes you).  There's a section that's like Doom 2's Chasm, with the addition of having to jump between the platforms and dying to fall damage if you miss, but at least this part isn't on a timer.  A few switches are retriggerable and can block your progression if you hit them more times than needed.  At least one of the essential timed actions is rather hard to figure out, too.   In the second half of the map, after completing the dam, you get the Wings of Wrath and can fly around some big spaces battling a big mass of creatures, which might be the most fun part of the map, but it's not enough to really redeem it and soon enough you're on to some dark, confined catacombs where the timed door gimmick comes back in force.   Finally you break free into some larger and better lit arenas where you fight a couple of class bosses and their minions.  After that you get a message that you won the map, but that you can still explore if you want to; at this point you have wings and a loopback is open, so I did so, found and killed a couple of optional sort-of-hidden bosses (with not much reward for doing so beyond beating them for its own sake), but ultimately couldn't find the last four monsters.  So I issued the console "kill monsters" command to see if any final scripted thing would happen if you wiped everything, but nothing apparent did; the "you win" script line is all the ending you get, with no formal exit.   There are also some missing texture errors; they reference flats from the Hexen beta version so if you load a texture pack that includes them, it'll fix the issue, but it's puzzling why they weren't included with the WAD.  There's some other weird texturing that almost feels like some walls were missed in the process of changing texture choices, and the way the ZDoom skybox feature was used is a bit weird and ugly.   I've seen worse by a lot but I would not recommend this one.
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