Goat Posted March 29, 2002 i got doom 95 now and all the versions of doom and now i cant get the mouse to work with it, i go into configuration and click "mouse support" and it still dont work. god i fuckin hate this shit 0 Share this post Link to post
Liam Posted March 29, 2002 It's a widely known fact that doom95 is shit. Use Legacy. 0 Share this post Link to post
stphrz Posted March 29, 2002 Doom95's mouse support is broken. As a rule most other people can't get it to work either. Go to Doomworld's source port section to get a better program to run Doom with. I recommend Legacy, PrBoom, and ZDoom. 0 Share this post Link to post
Ralphis` Posted March 29, 2002 Legacy if you want useless features noone uses in their wads. PRboom if you like it oldschool. ZDoom if you like using the best port available. Jdoom if you're looking for gfx. Zdaemon if you want to play online. Vavoom if you like all these things in one port. Boom, well, I don't know why you would want this. 0 Share this post Link to post
NiGHTMARE Posted March 29, 2002 Boom, well, I don't know why you would want this. Only reason you'd want to use Boom is if you're a DOS freak :) 0 Share this post Link to post
Opulent Posted March 29, 2002 Boom rules. and SOME doom95 cd installs will give mouse support, others not. only my UDoom cd does (not the other 2). Use PrBoom for God's sake... :) 0 Share this post Link to post
Psyonisis Posted March 29, 2002 Originally posted by Ralphis Legacy if you want useless features noone uses in their wads. Funny, I've seen plenty of amazing wads that use Legacy-only features. 0 Share this post Link to post
geekmarine Posted March 29, 2002 Hey, I'm a DOS freak, and I LOVE Boom!!! Boom is my sourceport of choice, because it is closest in feel to the original. Don't belittle my precious Boom. 0 Share this post Link to post
pritch Posted March 29, 2002 Why is it 50% of threads in this forum end up as source port debates these days? NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU THINK goat, the best policy is ignore everyone, download everything, and see for yourself a) what works, and b) what you like. I like ZDoom, but that matters diddly squat to you, my goaty friend. 0 Share this post Link to post
læmænt Posted March 29, 2002 Originally posted by pritch Why is it 50% of threads in this forum end up as source port debates these days? Because PrBoom r0x0rz 0 Share this post Link to post
Kaiser Posted March 30, 2002 Just stick with PRboom and Zdoom and everything will be fine.... 0 Share this post Link to post
stphrz Posted March 30, 2002 Well we could debate our heads off about which source port is best, but I think we can all agree they are all several orders of magnitude better than Doom95. Right? 0 Share this post Link to post
Crendowing Posted March 30, 2002 Originally posted by Liam the Bard It's a widely known fact that doom95 is shit. Use Legacy. Will you quit your Legacy preaching already? And stphrz, mouse actually does work in Doom95; I've tried using it myself. Remember how I disproved the fact that demo recording wasn't possible? Well...... And:Originally posted by Ralphis Legacy if you want useless features noone uses in their wads. PRboom if you like it oldschool. ZDoom if you like using the best port available. Jdoom if you're looking for gfx. Zdaemon if you want to play online. Vavoom if you like all these things in one port. Boom, well, I don't know why you would want this.Couldn't have said it better myself. And just one last question; why would anyone want to use a mouse in DOOM in the first place? (Don't start another flamewar over this) 0 Share this post Link to post
Baron-Of-Hell Posted March 30, 2002 Psyonisis' Status Penis Erectus LMAO 0 Share this post Link to post
deadnail Posted March 30, 2002 Penis ErectusLMAOVery fucking witty. I'm sure Fod is proud of you little wigglers. 0 Share this post Link to post
Sharessa Posted March 30, 2002 Jesus Fuck...are we a bunch of fucking 8th graders? 0 Share this post Link to post
Crendowing Posted March 30, 2002 Originally posted by the_Danarchist Jesus Fuck...on Ectasy :) 0 Share this post Link to post
Kid Airbag Posted March 30, 2002 Originally posted by Crendowing And just one last question; why would anyone want to use a mouse in DOOM in the first place? (Don't start another flamewar over this) VIVA KEYBOARDING! 0 Share this post Link to post
Liam Posted March 30, 2002 Originally posted by Crendowing Will you quit your Legacy preaching already? Nope. And just one last question; why would anyone want to use a mouse in DOOM in the first place? (Don't start another flamewar over this) [/B] Spend a good month or so getting used to a keyboard + mouse configuration (use the mouse for turning, shooting, and opening at least) and you'll see. I promise. Most people like this one... W - Forward S - Backward A - Strafe Left D - Strafe Right Mouse - Turning Left Mouse button - Fire Middle Mouse button - Open (Interesting variation on this I used to use - Use E for Forward, D for backward, S for strafe right, and A for strafe left) I like... Right Mouse button - Forward Space - Backward S - Strafe left D - Strafe right Mouse - Turning Left Mouse button - Fire Middle Mouse button / Doubleclick right mouse button - Open Here are some more interesting configurations that might be worth your time. Now, cribbed from Doom2.net... Keyboard alone, especially the "default" arrow-key and shift-ctrl-alt config, while allowing basic movement, does not allow high-speed or precision aiming. Aiming with keys alone is limited to timing shots while pivoting relatively slowly. Some keyboarders will be able to play competitively against joystick users, beginning skilled mouse+keys players, and some intermediate skilled mouse+keys players on some maps, but any player that wants to gain great skill in deathmatch must not use keyboard alone as his controller. Joystick use offers no advantages that I can imagine. Keyboard and Joystick users will need to convert to mouse+keys (or possibly trackball+keys, but this is much less common and I will stop referring to it) if they want to learn to be skilled. Converting to mouse+keys from keys alone is difficult, but well worth the time and effort spent. I know this from having gone through the experience, since I was a keyboarder for a year before I switched. If you are a keyboarder and are still hesitant to switch to mouse+keys, perhaps this will help. Click here to read what it was like for me to switch from Keyboard-only to Mouse+keys. There you are. edit: Heh, that article by BahdKo almost seems arrogant in places... oh well :p 0 Share this post Link to post
læmænt Posted March 30, 2002 Originally posted by Liam the Bard Right Mouse button - Forward Space - Backward S - Strafe left D - Strafe right Mouse - Turning Left Mouse button - Fire Right Mouse button - Open Wow, weird Hey, you have forward and open on the same button - that's generally undesirable 0 Share this post Link to post
Liam Posted March 30, 2002 Originally posted by Lament Wow, weird Hey, you have forward and open on the same button - that's generally undesirable Oh wait, sorry, I meant MIDDLE mouse button. In doom2.exe and prboom it's DOUBLECLICKING the right. I'll edit. 0 Share this post Link to post
Doom-Child Posted March 30, 2002 I used to play with a pretty weird setup myself, before I became a WASD zealot. Right Mouse Button: Forward Left Mouse Button: Fire Less Than Sign: Strafe left Greater Than Sign: Strafe right Space: Open Question Mark: Run Worked well, until I needed to move backward...must be why I have such a blitzkrieg style... Oh yeah, Legacy4Eva. So there. DC 0 Share this post Link to post
Crendowing Posted March 30, 2002 Originally posted by Liam the Bard Spend a good month or so getting used to a keyboard + mouse configuration (use the mouse for turning, shooting, and opening at least) and you'll see. I promise.Nope. Tried it once, I don't think I'll ever get the hang of it. You just wasted time typing all that out. 0 Share this post Link to post
Ralphis` Posted March 30, 2002 Originally posted by the_Danarchist Jesus Fuck...are we a bunch of fucking 8th graders? I am 0 Share this post Link to post
fodders Posted March 30, 2002 As most use S = straffe left d=forward f=straffe right e=back? let me suggest you try a=straffe left s=forward x=straffe right z=back turn k/b so it's angled with left hand side of k/b nearer to you, see how the keys fit better in your hand? And the Z for back is a lot more aligned than e or w or x ? 0 Share this post Link to post
Ralphis` Posted March 30, 2002 Liam, perhaps that config causes you to lose to me EVERYTIME WE PLAY =] 0 Share this post Link to post
Liam Posted March 30, 2002 Originally posted by fodders As most use S = straffe left d=forward f=straffe right e=back? let me suggest you try a=straffe left s=forward x=straffe right z=back turn k/b so it's angled with left hand side of k/b nearer to you, see how the keys fit better in your hand? And the Z for back is a lot more aligned than e or w or x ? I tried that once and my hand almost fell off. 0 Share this post Link to post
deadnail Posted March 30, 2002 I used to have the arrow keys set up for movement/strafing with control as duck and insert as jump. You might want to try that as a trainer, but now, after Solder of Fortune and Undying, I'm a hardcore WASD zealot myself. Just so you know, here's my SoF config: W = Forward S = Backpedal A = Strafe Left D = Strafe Right Shift = Duck Space = Jump Q = Cycle inventory right E = Use inventory item R = Reload MouseLeft = Fire MouseMid = Alt-Fire MouseRight = Open MWheelUp = WeaponSpecial1 MWheelDown = WeaponSpecial2 Try getting used to that. You'll be cycling through items in a gunfight, tossing grenades, reloading and ducking behind a wall, holding open and strafing to lean around corners, ZOOMING THE SNIPER RIFLE WITH THE MOUSE WHEEL, and generally kicking ass left and right. The only thing left to desire is weapon switching. 0 Share this post Link to post
Doom-Child Posted March 30, 2002 I always liked zooming with the RMB, so as to leave the wheel free for weapon switching. With a little bit of scripting, you can make the RMB almost as effective for switching weapons as the wheel. Good God, all this sleeplessness is affecting my typing. So maybe I just need to run a freakin' spellchecker on my code. DC 0 Share this post Link to post