MRB_Doom Posted February 26, 2012 http://wwwc.aftonbladet.se/ljudbildspel/nordkoreaspelet/ Personally I did turn off the music from the site, and instead I played "DOOM" / Map 05 and 13 while watching the slideshow. 0 Share this post Link to post
Remilia Scarlet Posted February 26, 2012 I honestly wouldn't mind going there one day just to take one of their tours. Call it a morbid curiosity of mine. 0 Share this post Link to post
printz Posted February 26, 2012 Are Americans or even EU members allowed? 0 Share this post Link to post
Remilia Scarlet Posted February 26, 2012 printz said:Are Americans or even EU members allowed? There are a few videos on YouTube and elsewhere of people going there. The first one I saw was this one which explained that it's easier to get in through China. 0 Share this post Link to post
Aliotroph? Posted February 26, 2012 It's not that it's easier to get there through China; it's only possible to go there through China as a tourist. The whole affair is tightly controlled and very strange. They try and weed out anyone they don't like beforehand through application of alcohol, partying and praising the Great/Dear Leaders. It's extremely rare to see any footage of NK that wasn't approved by the authorities there. There was a fun story a little while back about the photographers who posed as representatives of a Belgian chocolate company so they could do a little journalistic espionage. They had a scary time. 0 Share this post Link to post
Krispy Posted February 26, 2012 Brushing the highway with reeds looks like fun. 0 Share this post Link to post
HavoX Posted February 26, 2012 Daaaamn, this looks fantastic! MRB_Doom said:Personally I did turn off the music from the site, and instead I played "DOOM" / Map 05 and 13 while watching the slideshow. Excellent choices, my good friend. 0 Share this post Link to post
Nomad Posted February 26, 2012 Are those... Dell computers they're using in that computer lab?! Also this main city looks really nice, and probably actually misleadingly pleasant to live in. I'm more interested in seeing how the rest of the country lives. The majority of people probably don't have it half as nice. 0 Share this post Link to post
Sharessa Posted February 26, 2012 yukib1t said:There are a few videos on YouTube and elsewhere of people going there. The first one I saw was this one which explained that it's easier to get in through China. That Vice Guide tour is pretty amazing. I've watched it 2-3 times, and it was a bit chilling every time. 0 Share this post Link to post
MRB_Doom Posted February 26, 2012 yukib1t said:There are a few videos on YouTube and elsewhere of people going there. The first one I saw was this one which explained that it's easier to get in through China. The DMZ must be one of the world's most tense areas. So incredibly scary if something should go wrong there. 0 Share this post Link to post
Bucket Posted February 26, 2012 Despite the obvious, I'd like to live there. Seems very sterile and desolate. I'd love to take my convertible down one of those wide open immaculate highways. 0 Share this post Link to post
Technician Posted February 26, 2012 They're showing you what they want you to see. The country is still a poverty infected hellhole. 0 Share this post Link to post
Aliotroph? Posted February 26, 2012 Nomad said:Are those... Dell computers they're using in that computer lab?! Also this main city looks really nice, and probably actually misleadingly pleasant to live in. I'm more interested in seeing how the rest of the country lives. The majority of people probably don't have it half as nice. Every picture from NK where I've been able to see the computers has shown Dell computers. This is why it's retarded that America has so many trade restrictions. America isn't preventing anyone from acquiring their technology, but are screwing themselves out of cash and more direct influence. You think Pyongyang looks nice? It looks grey, empty and full of Stalinist monuments. Yuck. I visited a place in China like that. It was interesting, but incredibly depressing. You'd think a country as rich as China would make their communist museums look a little less communist. 0 Share this post Link to post
Jodwin Posted February 26, 2012 Technician said:The country is still a poverty infected hellhole. How do you know? :P 0 Share this post Link to post
MRB_Doom Posted February 26, 2012 Technician said:They're showing you what they want you to see. The country is still a poverty infected hellhole. Forte sunt alicubi inter patriam et limbo? :S 0 Share this post Link to post
Catoptromancy Posted February 26, 2012 http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/dprk-dark.htm Obviously people only live in the capital. As you can see on this map places where people actually live have electricity at night. It makes sense! 0 Share this post Link to post
MRB_Doom Posted February 26, 2012 Catoptromancy said:http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/dprk-dark.htm Obviously people only live in the capital. As you can see on this map places where people actually live have electricity at night. It makes sense! Jesus H. Christ. That's pretty fucking dark. 0 Share this post Link to post
hardcore_gamer Posted February 26, 2012 Jodwin said:How do you know? :P Uhm, common sense? You do realize we are talking about North Korea of all countries right? 0 Share this post Link to post
Technician Posted February 26, 2012 Places like Camp 22 make it hard for me to see any beauty in a country that has active concentration camps comparable to Unit 731 and Auschwitz II. Look it up. 0 Share this post Link to post
Csonicgo Posted February 27, 2012 You're talking about a nation that has radios with presets on it to songs only about dear leader. Of course that's a hellhole. 0 Share this post Link to post
Catoptromancy Posted February 27, 2012 Here is a documentary where National Geographic pretends to be foreign doctor's assistants to be allowed to video. The doctors were removing cataracts from preteen children(and adults). Since in North Korea nobody has enough medical training to remove cataracts and children cant get enough nourishment to stop them from forming. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxLBywKrTf4 0 Share this post Link to post
Jodwin Posted February 27, 2012 hardcore_gamer said:You do realize we are talking about North Korea of all countries right? Which is exactly my point: How do you know? We're talking about the most isolated country in the world, which heavily restricts information that it spreads to the rest of the world. Yet, pretty much every non-North Korean source of information has an agenda of their own to spread negative information about North Korea, whether it is true or false. Oh, most certainly NK is a hell hole, I'm not denying that. But still, there's very few reputable neutral sources of any information regarding the state of things in NK. Much like any news regarding any war or any other conflict: Both sides simply use news as a means to spread propaganda, and you can never trust either one. US sez "We have killed billion Iraqi terrorists!" and Saddam sez "American dogs have killed ten billion Iraqi civilians." Yeah. 0 Share this post Link to post
eargosedown Posted February 27, 2012 Technician said:Places like Camp 22 make it hard for me to see any beauty in a country that has active concentration camps comparable to Unit 731 and Auschwitz II. Look it up. Hoooooooooooly fuck. How are there really people this fucked up in the world? :[ 0 Share this post Link to post
Blastfrog Posted February 27, 2012 Technician said:Places like Camp 22 make it hard for me to see any beauty in a country that has active concentration camps comparable to Unit 731 and Auschwitz II. Look it up. Jesus, dude. I knew they had concentration camps, but I pictured them more as a regular prison, not that. O_o 0 Share this post Link to post
Maes Posted February 27, 2012 Aliotroph? said:America isn't preventing anyone from acquiring their technology That possibility is effectively forfeited the very moment that you outsource its manufacturing elsewhere, and then again there's always reverse engineering. That's why military/sensitive/security critical stuff isn't outsourced. Imagine if e.g. the Chinese made the electronics of M1A1 tanks or F35 jets...the next day there would be a million near-equivalent knockoffs made for a fraction of the price, used to arm pretty much everyone, and taking a shit on expensive taxpayer-funded R&D. Even mil-spec stuff isn't safe: captured B-29s (and captured/lost military hardware in general) can and has been used as a way to copy competing/enemy technology, even shot-down pieces of drones and spy planes. Hell, they were able to copy the atomic bomb and even the Space Shuttle and the Concorde, in an era where "industrial espionage" actually meant shooting microfilms with small spy-cameras ;-) 0 Share this post Link to post