TMALL.WAD question

Hi, I'm trying to play TMALL.WAD but I think I'm doing something wrong because some enemies look like computers and they can't attack me. I suppose this is because this wad includes a Dehacked 2.0 patch while Prboom-plus only supports Dehacked 3.0. Is that correct? If so, is it possible to convert a 2.0 patch to 3.0? Looks like a cool wad, I'd like to play it the intended way if possible.

I just tested this in zdoom and had the same effect. I don't think they are supposed to attack. Some of the monster sprites have been turned into computers and breakable windows.

Though I do believe something hasn't loaded correctly because the breakable windows, which are cyber demons, still have the same amount of health and take forever to break.

Given the patches age it's probably for the v1.666 executable, which might explain some of the odd behavior. I'll see if I can convert it to text format.

Oh, shit. I played this in the Maxmimum Doom gauntlet; it was sort of fun :D

Yeah, I found it on Maximum Doom CD as well. So how did you play it, did you use the original v1.666 executable?

Memfis said:

Is it possible to convert a 2.0 patch to 3.0?

I managed to do so by using DeHackEd 2 to patch a v1.666 executable then DeHackEd 3 to save a copy of the patch. Importing the patch into TMALL.WAD appears to have the monsters working properly in ZDoom and PrBoom+, though I noticed in PrBoom+ that (at least) some monsters are unable to retaliate when the modified spiderdemon shoots them. I encountered a visplane overflow in E3M1 which has slowed my vanilla testing, so I'm not sure if there's a broken door preventing a player from reaching the Yellow key without cheating.

Patch File for DeHackEd v3.0

# Note: Use the pound sign ('#') to start comment lines.

Doom version = 16
Patch format = 6


Thing 2 (Trooper)
Alert sound = 0
Pain chance = 0
Pain sound = 0
Far attack frame = 0
Death sound = 62
Speed = 0
Action sound = 0
Bits = 524294

Thing 12 (Imp)
Hit points = 40
Alert sound = 0
Pain chance = 0
Close attack frame = 0
Far attack frame = 0
Exploding frame = 457
Speed = 0
Width = 2621440
Height = 7208960
Bits = 524294

Thing 20 (Spiderdemon)
Hit points = 200
Pain chance = 80
Speed = 0
Width = 1310720
Height = 3670016
Mass = 100000

Thing 22 (Cyberdemon)
Hit points = 10
Alert sound = 0
Far attack frame = 0
Speed = 0
Action sound = 0
Bits = 524294

Thing 64 (Ammo Clip)
Initial frame = 193
Bits = 8

Thing 89 (Eye in Symbol)
Initial frame = 920
Hit points = 20
Pain sound = 62
Death frame = 467
Death sound = 62
Mass = 10000000
Bits = 524294

Frame 467
Sprite number = 118
Sprite subnumber = 0
Duration = 10

Frame 468
Sprite number = 118
Sprite subnumber = 1
Duration = 8

Frame 469
Sprite number = 118
Sprite subnumber = 2

Frame 621
Duration = 7

Frame 622
Duration = 6

Frame 623
Duration = 5

Frame 624
Duration = 6

Frame 625
Duration = 5

Frame 626
Duration = 7

Frame 627
Duration = 7

Frame 628
Duration = 7

Frame 629
Duration = 7

Frame 630
Duration = 24

Frame 691
Duration = 5

Frame 692
Duration = 5

Frame 693
Duration = 5

Frame 694
Duration = 5

Frame 695
Duration = 5

Frame 696
Duration = 5

Frame 697
Duration = 5

Frame 698
Duration = 5

Frame 917
Duration = 10

Frame 918
Sprite subnumber = 32768
Duration = 8

Frame 919
Sprite subnumber = 32768
Duration = 8

Frame 920
Sprite subnumber = 32768
Duration = 8

Text 492 492
The loathsome spiderdemon that
masterminded the invasion of the moon
bases and caused so much death has had
its ass kicked for all time.

A hidden doorway opens and you enter.
You've proven too tough for Hell to
contain, and now Hell at last plays
fair -- for you emerge from the door
to see the green fields of Earth!
Home at last.

You wonder what's been happening on
Earth while you were battling evil
unleashed. It's good that no Hell-
spawn could have come through that
door with you ...You managed to save the mall from its
terror!  You closed the portal that 
the demons were using to invade our 
our world and finished them off!

Who knew that a strange world existed
right below Central Mall where 
hideous beings were planning their 
invasion of our world?  Nobody 
really cares.  Everyone is happy that
those beasts are gone!  Time to do 
some serious relaxing. 

Well, the mall is in poor shape after 
the huge battle.  But you don't mind, 
that is somebody elses job.    

Text 80 81
                          DOOM System Startup v%i.%i66                                             DOOM System Startup v%i.%i66  *Loading Terror Mall!           

Text 15 15
E3M1: Hell KeepE3M1: The Mall 

Text 11 10
E3M7: LimboUnderworld

Text 9 9
E3M8: DisE3M8: End

Text 13 15
E3M9: WarrensL2: Parking Lot

What with computers that bleed, walking walls, trees that move when shot and almost being killed by a glass door with attitude - I decided to tweak the patch in my previous post. I've also made the "spiderdemon" taller, which appears to have cured the infighting issue in PrBoom+.

Thanks a lot GreyGhost, I'm going to play this right now. :D