36appl0912 Posted April 22, 2014 So, I was wondering, considering all the source ports, console tc's, and wads distributed underground over the internet, is there by any chance a copy of the original registered doom or a wad of it in existence. By this I mean pure DOOM without the ultimate subtitle on the title screen and no episode 4. I know there is the shareware wad, but the latter 2 episodes are locked. I ask this as a rock hardcore doomer if there exists a 1.9 or earlier doom purely for nostalgic purposes. 0 Share this post Link to post
Blastfrog Posted April 22, 2014 You can patch it to any version you like. http://doomgate.de/content/files/ladopato/index_en.html 0 Share this post Link to post
GreyGhost Posted April 22, 2014 Apart from downgrade patching Ultimate Doom, the real thing also turns up on eBay on a regular basis. Usually quite expensive, on 4 floppy disks and with no guarantee they're 100% readable. 0 Share this post Link to post
ReFracture Posted April 22, 2014 I've never been able to get that patcher to work in Windows 7; just throws an error 53 missing file without referencing the missing file. I ended up using the downgrade patch here: http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?file=utils/exe_edit/downgrd.zip And then patching to my desired version from there. That 'Doom Operating System 1.1' is total nostalgia though, memories.. 0 Share this post Link to post
Joshua Schäferhund Posted April 22, 2014 Sodaholic said:You can patch it to any version you like. http://doomgate.de/content/files/ladopato/index_en.html That utility is fucking amazing. It especially works great for updating your IWAD if you don't want to deal with those DOS patches. 0 Share this post Link to post
Woolie Wool Posted April 22, 2014 I wonder if Doom the Way Id Did runs in registered Doom v1.9, or even v1.666. 0 Share this post Link to post
BlueFeena Posted April 22, 2014 Woolie Wool said:I wonder if Doom the Way Id Did runs in registered Doom v1.9, or even v1.666. Registered Doom 1.9 is basically Ultimate Doom without the Ultimate bolted on. Barring episode 4, whatever works in one will work in the other. Original owner of Doom Shareware, Registered 1.2, 1.666 Patch disk, 1.9, Ultimate, Doom 2 1.7, and Final Doom Retail. I intend to archive my original floppies sometime this week; fingers crossed they all still work (my install disk 1 for Blake Stone: Planet Strike! failed about a week ago...) 0 Share this post Link to post
Blastfrog Posted April 22, 2014 It seems that LADOPATO doesn't have patches for the BFG IWADs in there. Is Doomgater still active? I could generate some patches, as I own the Steam version of BFG Edition. I'm not sure if those patches I released a while back work properly, I seem to remember accidentally generating against the 1.666 Doom 2 IWAD, rather than 1.9. I might've fixed it though, but it's best to be certain and do it over from scratch. Woolie Wool said:I wonder if Doom the Way Id Did runs in registered Doom v1.9, or even v1.666.It should (at least 1.9), it was designed for vanilla limits. BlueFeena said:Registered Doom 1.9 is basically Ultimate Doom without the Ultimate bolted on.It's worth noting that E1M1 was modified. The other maps remained untouched, AFAIK. Also, I don't remember if Registered 1.9 has Doom 2 sprites in it, but Ultimate does. Some of them are slightly different, probably old versions (bad alignments, crappier shading). 0 Share this post Link to post
DoomGater Posted April 22, 2014 Sodaholic said:It seems that LADOPATO doesn't have patches for the BFG IWADs in there. Is Doomgater still active? I could generate some patches, as I own the Steam version of BFG Edition. Well, yes, I'm still alive, but I've quit Windows long time ago, so there is no upgrade for LADOPATO, sorry! Maybe I'll provide a complete set of all bspatch-patchdata some day, but it's not really scheduled now... Until that day, please use THIS package do patch the BFG-Edition-IWADs. 0 Share this post Link to post
GreyGhost Posted April 22, 2014 Woolie Wool said:I wonder if Doom the Way Id Did runs in registered Doom v1.9, or even v1.666. It should run with either IWAD if you add a SKY4 patch. Sodaholic said:I don't remember if Registered 1.9 has Doom 2 sprites in it, but Ultimate does. Yep, so has 1.666. 0 Share this post Link to post
Grazza Posted April 22, 2014 BlueFeena said:Registered Doom 1.9 is basically Ultimate Doom without the Ultimate bolted on. Barring episode 4, whatever works in one will work in the other.In addition to the E1M1 map change mentioned by Sodaholic, there's also a difference in the tag 666 behaviour, which can affect pwads that make any non-standard use of this tag on E1M8, E2M8 or E3M8. The most famous examples are uac_dead.wad and Aliens TC. There's a change in lost soul behaviour that doesn't break any maps that I am aware of (and it is hard to imagine that there are any), but presumably you could specifically construct a map where that was the case. Not that this would be a very sensible thing to do. :p 0 Share this post Link to post
ReFracture Posted April 23, 2014 I remember as a kid watching the demos just playback often. I think there was one demo I saw where they actually finished a level rather than dying, I want to say it was E1M2 but I haven't had any luck finding it so far looking through the various versions. Any idea what version of Doom that was? 0 Share this post Link to post