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Hellbent

Going to Mars, never to return.

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http://images.csmonitor.com/csm/2015/02/107426main_image_feature_261_ajh4.jpg?alias=standard_600x400

Not me, but people: Ambitions to travel to – or even colonize – Mars have been on the rise in recent years. In February, Netherlands-based nonprofit Mars One narrowed its 100,000 applicants for a one-way trip to Mars down to 100. The finalists will spend the next decade training and learning how to work efficiently as a team. The final pool will be narrowed to 24 people, who will break into four groups of six to be launched every two years, starting in 2025. If they make the trip, there are no plans for them to return. source: http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2015/0328/Astronaut-twin-Scott-Kelly-begins-YearInSpace-Why-that-long

Finalist Maggie Leiu is excited by the idea of humans starting a civilization on another planet.

“There’d be no legal system or parliament so it would be really fascinating to see how we work out our lives,” Lieu told The Independent.
http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2015/0217/Would-you-take-a-one-way-trip-to-Mars

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It'd be an achievement if they could pull it off. I think it'd be smarter to send people of average intelligence and handymen, rather than scientists. No one is going to care much about geologists or mathematicians studying sand, rock, and erosion., except others in those fields. The mass public would rather hear flights of fancy and the heroics of everyday Joes living on Mars, growing potatoes, fighting off aliens, having sex with aliens, and discovering alien civilizations underneath the sand.




Alternatively, we could just turn Mars into a prison colony and send all of our prisoners there to rot and die.

Or better yet, a trash dump when we run out of landfills and oceans to fill here.

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Clonehunter said:

The mass public would rather hear flights of fancy and the heroics of everyday Joes living on Mars, growing potatoes, fighting off aliens, having sex with aliens, and discovering alien civilizations underneath the sand.

Survivor: Mars Edition

Thought this topic may have already been brought up.

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Why go to Mars when with threads like this we can easily go back in time?

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Clonehunter said:

Alternatively, we could just turn Mars into a prison colony and send all of our prisoners there to rot and die.


Why go that far just to dump some prisoners? There are already a lot of undesirable/hostile places on good old Earth, where our less than outstanding citizens could be dumped. The poles, deserts, deserted rocky islands, arid mountain plains, icebergs, war zones, Siberia, crisis-struck countries....take your pick.

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I think the handyman idea is a good one. People that can fix stuff and think out of the box. A degree probably helps.

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Clonehunter said:

Alternatively, we could just turn Mars into a prison colony and send all of our prisoners there to rot and die.


We've got plenty of active Volcanoes here on Earth we could use that for.

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Clonehunter said:

It'd be an achievement if they could pull it off. I think it'd be smarter to send people of average intelligence and handymen, rather than scientists. No one is going to care much about geologists or mathematicians studying sand, rock, and erosion., except others in those fields. The mass public would rather hear flights of fancy and the heroics of everyday Joes living on Mars, growing potatoes, fighting off aliens, having sex with aliens, and discovering alien civilizations underneath the sand.


Probably so, but there would be a lot of groundwork to be done before an everyman could only worry about those things, and that can only be carried by people with both brains and brawn -traditionally, how astronauts were picked.

Most professional astronauts were accomplished military pilots which also held degrees and were acknowledged in a research field, so they were definitively no dumb grunts nor pencilnecks, and certainly not mere everymen.

In other words, you need to be a Genius Bruiser to even be considered for these kinds of jobs. When the groundwork has been done and space travel is no harsher than, say, taking the old months-long Europe-to-USA journey in a steamer's hold, and surviving on Mars is no harsher than what the first European colonists had to face in Africa, the Americas or the Outback, then you can have your "space opera".

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Hellbent said:

Thought this topic may have already been brought up.

It has been brought up every single time mars one gets publicity, and it then gets the derision it deserves.

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Clonehunter said:

Alternatively, we could just turn Mars into a prison colony and send all of our prisoners there to rot and die.

Or better yet, a trash dump when we run out of landfills and oceans to fill here.

It's a hell of a lot cheaper to have prisoners rot and die here on Earth, in the meantime they can be put to work digging and filling landfill pits. Problem solved.

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Maes said:

Why go that far just to dump some prisoners? There are already a lot of undesirable/hostile places on good old Earth, where our less than outstanding citizens could be dumped. The poles, deserts, deserted rocky islands, arid mountain plains, icebergs, war zones, Siberia, crisis-struck countries....take your pick.


Because we don't need their scum on our beautiful planet. And volcanoes are too easy, and wholly uncreative and far too cheap a tactic.

GreyGhost said:

It's a hell of a lot cheaper to have prisoners rot and die here on Earth, in the meantime they can be put to work digging and filling landfill pits. Problem solved.


Cheap = Lame

And we probably don't want landfills on Earth anyways. Alternatively, we can fill up the moon with garbage. Or the oceans, and then the moon. And then Mars. At some point we can just send our waste to the sun and bathe in whatever comes of it.

Maes said:

In other words, you need to be a Genius Bruiser to even be considered for these kinds of jobs. When the groundwork has been done and space travel is no harsher than, say, taking the old months-long Europe-to-USA journey in a steamer's hold, and surviving on Mars is no harsher than what the first European colonists had to face in Africa, the Americas or the Outback, then you can have your "space opera".



We don't training, though. The best we need is a pilot who dies after landing due to a lethal gene injected into his body that activates after some time. The clueless heroic Joes, without groundwork, are exactly what we need. What better way to rile the people of Earth to know that we have every day hard working Mr. Smiths and Janes all living peacefully (Or chaotically dying, which is just as good in any measure) on the red planet. Send them up in a tin can, it's all we need to achieve our species's greatest achievement.

The more money you can spend, and the more Chilean farmers you can rationally kill off for the goal of pseudo-science or real science, the better.

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Piper Maru said:

The only real concern I have is...are there still demons on Mars?

They're not yet there.

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Piper Maru said:

The only real concern I have is...are there still demons on Mars?


yes

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Clonehunter said:

Cheap = Lame

And we probably don't want landfills on Earth anyways. Alternatively, we can fill up the moon with garbage. Or the oceans, and then the moon. And then Mars. At some point we can just send our waste to the sun and bathe in whatever comes of it.

But a lot of that stuff's recyclable! Of course by the time we start thinking of re-processing our own junk, space travel will be a luxury we won't be able to spare the resources for, so your profligate waste disposal "solution" would probably bring about the premature demise of civilisation as we know it.

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Piper Maru said:

The only real concern I have is...are there still demons on Mars?

No, but from what I understand the two moons are pretty infested.

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