Doomworld is dead, long live Doomworld

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Thanks to their great support, I will be get *all* the files from Atomicgamer archived. I will try to do that as soon as possible. I might need to rent a beefy server for a month but I would just take those ~50€ (if lucky) from the Quaddicted hosting fund, I am sure the donators would support that. :)

Did they ever host a Majora's Mask website? They won't migrate, they'll just rewind time by 3 days.

Maes said:

Heh ironically this coincides with #ThisIsACoup. Maybe the fate/downsizing of Doomworld is part of Greece's bailout plans, as well?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHvWiN4rh-E

Those Greecey bastards!

It is good to hear from the guys at AG and to why they are shutting down. Valid reasons of course and I appreciate that as I'm sure we all do!

Anyone contacted Bethesda/ID to see if they can help us out?? :)

Dave

Seriously though, if we need to start getting some cash together for stuff then setup a PayPal.

Buckshot said:

If that's the case... it's definitely not cheap. Even dedicated business T1's (yes, T1's, lol) will run you a merry several hundred dollars a month.

Hosted virtual machines are dirt cheap nowadays. None of the stuff you describe is even necessary.

It's just a website. This really isn't hard.

fraggle said:

Hosted virtual machines are dirt cheap nowadays. None of the stuff you describe is even necessary.

It's just a website. This really isn't hard.

Hmmm. Well, never hosted a website before, wasn't sure what all was required.

Router's, firewalls, switches, servers and circuits are my thing. Which get expensive, fast.

Buckshot said:

Hmmm. Well, never hosted a website before, wasn't sure what all was required.

Router's, firewalls, switches, servers and circuits are my thing. Which get expensive, fast.

It's easy to miss the bigger picture when you specialise in one area. I've seen lots of people do it so don't feel bad :)

It's probably rare that you'd have to worry about networking too much when just setting up a small website like Doomworld. Traditionally it's been a case of: buy a server, put it into a colo facility / data center. The DC should usually provide the networking for you.

Recent years (~10 years) have seen this move towards virtual hosting instead. Nowadays you pay a company like Linode (which is what hosts chocolate-doom.org for example) to run the physical servers, each of which is then divided up into multiple virtual machines that get sold to customers. End result: pricing is cheap, it's all software (making it easy to increase RAM/disk/CPU or turn up more servers), and you don't need to worry about managing physical servers because that's someone else's problem.

Medium to large sized companies might want to run their own servers instead and host them in their offices rather than in a shared DC facility. That's the point where you need to worry about running your own networking, dedicated lines, etc.

fraggle said:

It's easy to miss the bigger picture when you specialise in one area. I've seen lots of people do it so don't feel bad :)

It's probably rare that you'd have to worry about networking too much when just setting up a small website like Doomworld. Traditionally it's been a case of: buy a server, put it into a colo facility / data center. The DC should usually provide the networking for you.

Recent years (~10 years) have seen this move towards virtual hosting instead. Nowadays you pay a company like Linode (which is what hosts chocolate-doom.org for example) to run the physical servers, each of which is then divided up into multiple virtual machines that get sold to customers. End result: pricing is cheap, it's all software (making it easy to increase RAM/disk/CPU or turn up more servers), and you don't need to worry about managing physical servers because that's someone else's problem.

Medium to large sized companies might want to run their own servers instead and host them in their offices rather than in a shared DC facility. That's the point where you need to worry about running your own networking, dedicated lines, etc.

Good info. I was thinking an entirely different ballpark; corporate servers/infrastructure/datacenters... at least the equipment we use to maintain our internal and external stuff. Guess personal hosting is nowhere near as complex as I thought :)

Virtualization is great.

I keep a Win XP vm for certain legacy applications. I still like Win 7, but virtual installs of Win 8 & Win 10 let me noodle around with them without the commitment. Got Redhat and Ubuntu VMs, for when I want to screw around with Linux. Windows Server 2008 R2 vms for screwing around with Active directory and Domain controllers. The Icing on the cake is GNS3. You can map and run virtual Cisco Routers from their ios images and even attach virtual OS's to any given interface. You can practically do an entire virtualized topology.

There is some strange patent on Cisco's switching technology so the switches can't be properly virtualized, or it would be very illegal to do so. Again I've sucessfully offtopic tangent-ed.

Technician said:

I've stated it numerous times but, this is the only online community that I'd genuinely miss.

Same here man. I've been a member of Doomworld since late 2001. So many different people come and go and I myself haven't posted a whole bunch these days, but I'd definitely miss it if it ever disappears.

Just now seeing this announcement. I'm sure I'm completely and totally crazy, but I thought Doomworld was part of UGO Networks? I swear I remember seeing their logo in the upper right corner before. Am I thinking of some other Doom website? Or is AtomicGamer ultimately part of UGO? I am legitimately kind of confused right now, I think I need a nap.

It used to be a part of UGO. UGO got bought by IGN in 2011 and eventually went belly up in 2013. Atomic Gamer at some point became it's own thing. I think that's how it went anyway. More importantly, DW is here to stay and on it's way to a new server.

BombChel said:

I thought Doomworld was part of UGO Networks?

More likely an indirect member of the UGO network, many years ago when Telefragged was affiliated with them.

Ok, so I'm not crazy. Or at least, not because of that. Did Telefragged become AtomicGamer because of UGO shutting down, or did it happen before that? I guess it doesn't really matter at this point, just curiosity.

BombChel said:

Did Telefragged become AtomicGamer because of UGO shutting down, or did it happen before that?

Before that. Back in 2006, according to their staff page.

I'd say, set-up a donation event(Short & long term), where the site has to met a certain goal every month & year, or something along those lines. Probably something much simpler(Donations), that others suggested. ;-)

Btw, this forum uses "Nobody <nobody@metroplex.tel<nospam>gged.com>" for outgoing mail (reply notifications), don't forget about that.

You should easily be able to run Doomworld and all associated sites from donations, I have been doing focused yearly hosting fund donation runs for Quaddicted the past 2 or 3 years and always got much more than needed. Doomworld has a much bigger community, so you gonna swim in money. ;)

Mirroring the files is in progress, sadly very slowly.

Quaddicted isn't loading for me B-)

We sacrificed it just so we could save DW! <3

Yeah in a way D:

Reboot for restoring gbit connection turned into total disaster and now I am stuck with trying to configure grub and mdadm with only "server is not responsing to ping" and "rescue image booted" as diagnosis... :( I do have backups but now I need a new server unless I can figure this poop out.

CivFans are aware too: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=550228

Well that sucks.

If anybody wants to keep in contact with me, my email address is BlackSabbath101890@gmail.com.

TraceOfSpades said:

Well that sucks.

If anybody wants to keep in contact with me, my email address is BlackSabbath101890@gmail.com.

Doomworld isn't going away. It is good to read the thread before you post in it ;)

Technician said:

I've stated it numerous times but, this is the only online community that I'd genuinely miss.

Doomworld is love, Doomworld is life :(

esselfortium said:

Doomworld isn't going away. It is good to read the thread before you post in it ;)

Hold me tight, essel. Hold me until the waters sweep the forum away!

*cue dramatic music*

Lol! This thread is taking a funny turn.

DooM_RO said:

Doomworld is love, Doomworld is life :(

So we should start a Doom/Flying Spaghetti Monster religion?
We could say that we worship the pixelated, impaled head of John Romero as it spits out gifts to us in the form of monster spawners.
On our yearly holiday we could make pinatas of Doom monsters, filled with rockets and bullets, and punch them til the stuff falls out. Or we get blown up and turned into hamburger. Either way, it's Doom's Day!

Ah, bad pun on that name...

*Edit*
I just remembered that this thread was titled "SERIOUS TIME"
... Uh, my bad, I'm bad at serious time.

Thanks again to TF/AG for hosting this great site all this time and thanks to those ensuring it will continue!

Fonze said:

So we should start a Doom/Flying Spaghetti Monster religion?
We could say that we worship the pixelated, impaled head of John Romero as it spits out gifts to us in the form of monster spawners.
On our yearly holiday we could make pinatas of Doom monsters, filled with rockets and bullets, and punch them til the stuff falls out. Or we get blown up and turned into hamburger. Either way, it's Doom's Day!

Or we could start our own furry Doom fandom. We'll just start wearing giant Imp/Baron of Hell fursuits and then begin... wait no. Never mind that idea.

RUSH said:

Or we could start our own furry Doom fandom. We'll just start wearing giant Imp/Baron of Hell fursuits and then begin... wait no. Never mind that idea.

Zdoom forums have already got that covered.

Hahaha omfg

What have we become!?

If we keep derailing this thread someone will have to shout, "you maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to Hell!" before it gets sent to Post Hell.

Or we do