Tangent thought, Doom 3 the Movie would suck

Okay, lemme just clear a little something up here. Street Fighter the movie sucked. Everyone wore rediculous costumes that followed the watered down game and not the real uniforms they were meant to imply. Star Commander sucked. It was a boring ride through space that just would not end.

Tomb Raider the movie? Odds are, it's going to suck. Seen the shots of Angelina Jolie? How the hell did they come up with her as Lara Croft? Don't get me wrong now, I hate all the Tomb Raider games just as much as you (probably more). But, isn't Lara supposed to be a British chick with obviously fake tits and big ol' lovable thighs? Just a worthless and meaningless sex symbol for a genre that needs none? So they get Angelina Jolie, a chick with perfect small tits and slender thighs. Makes sense, she looks nothing like Lara at all. They didn't even do the damn glasses! I don't even play the game and I caught that. At least they tried to get the hair right, and true to Lara, the face is butt ugly. (You'll see that in one screen in particular, you could hide your keys in those cheeks!)

What's worse? Her outfit. Her boots look like the same, horrible slapped together bullshit like they did in Street Fighter. If it's going to be the same crap where they just follow in-game exaggerations and not the point they were trying to convey in the first place it loses it's meaning. IE, those knee high boots with three buckles look laughable at best. What's wrong with thick leather padded boots that are laced? At least they would look decent.

I like the pistols, though. Chrome plated HK USP Match .45's with the ribbed extension still black matte. I'm still a fan of the M1911 myself, though. Oh well.

So what the hell does this have to do with Doom 3 the movie, you ask?

Think about all the little details that were in Doom, and restricted to low res sprites and all the textures that were brutally marauded by a 256 color pallette. Do you think that this would look right if they tried to directly convert these things onto a movie? Of course not, they should try to do the image that was MEANT to be implied, not what was directly conveyed.

Think of the big green marble face that Jeremy has as his face. Would it be a real, dark stone looking color or the same milky white off color as it is in the game. Would the colors of a Baron of Hell be adjusted to look more realistic or would it be the same almost neon shade of flesh? Even some of the textures in Quake 3 Arena. Think of the Baphamut one in particular. The colors are just so defined and have such clear high tones that, yes for a game makes sense but on screen wouldn't look right. That texture alone would take months to have carved out of pewter, then glossed to look like steel.

Would the marine have his belly exposed through his armor? Admit it, it makes him look like a porn star and it would really mess up the credibility on screen.

Sure, they could flesh out the storyline in about a week and spend $100 on special effects but if they screw up all of the little details it's just not going to feel right on the screen.

Some things simply do not transfer from game to screen, and vice versa.

Knee high three buckle boots and open midriffs under combat armor included.

Think if you take a friend to see the movie who's never played a video game and you keep telling him how much this movie is going to kick ass. He sees the marine and laughs his ass off because of the wide open gut, how would you feel? Embarassed, of course. Some things just can't make the transition smoothly.

The demons would have to move like animals, pounce and snarl at each other for the right for the kill. They would have many varying heights and scars and such. Movie goers would also demand more from the demons than just their standard kamikaze routine!

I can picture the super buff freak they have playing the marine in the movie swinging around a 100+ pound gun like a paperweight, but the BFG would have to be redesigned to look a bit more realistic and not like a over-complicated microwave. A big square with a smaller square barrel sticking out of the end you point at what you want to die, covered in blinking lights and switches. Sounds almost like first season Trek crap to me.

Yeah, it fit the game perfectly. Now try to picture that jagged and blocky ergonomic nightmare on screen next to realistic weapons. The Q2 BFG would be a much better choice for realism.

Anything else to mention, besides counting the times I'm about to get the f word thrown at me? Oh yes, the ultimate statement to paraphrase this whole mess.

If they just follow the in game graphics strictly, as displayed with Street Fighter and Tomb Raider, then the movie will be laughable at best. They should take a little artistic freedom and expand on what's given in the name of realism but not style.

Thank you.

Flame on!

A CGI Doom movie would be the best approach.

Have you seen the CGI Starship Troopers series? Okay, so the plot and characters are really, really badly done, but if they got some decent scriptwriters that series would be so cool.

deadnail said:

Flame on!

Why? Anybody with half a working brain can see that you have a great point (One I thought was a little obvious, though).

Personally, the only game-to-movie projects I think have worked are the animes. And half of those suck.

Of course, you forgot to mention the following points;
1) Flynn (Or whatever name the marine gets) is at the edge of hell (Or something) looking down a vast crevice. The imps about twenty miles down start to claw at him.
2) The film will look odd when Flynnie-boy tries to 'open' the wall to silence his BFG
3) At the films` climax, a flat face in a room full of green slime will look ridiculous.
4) Teleporters? Oh dear...

Besides my dire humour, I actually have something to say on the issue of what the film monsters should look like

FORMER HUMAN/SERGEANT/COMMANDO: No need. Obvious what they should look like. Probably US marine uniforms
IMP: Hmmm... maybe these things shouldn't throw fire. Brown is not too cartoony a colour, but the white spikes look odd.
DEMONS: Personally, I think only the phase-shifted transparent versions should appear, with a predator-esque distortion. If they HAVE to be fully visible, then maybe a duller, greyer skin. Make them move like Quake fiends. Great scenes would see them do this through windows/doors.
BARONS: Dunno. Full body hair? Again, I can't see them throuwing projectiles - it looks ridiculous in films. Maybe they soul-steal (Think MK2 shang tsung) at close range. Obviously they're har-as-nails, walking dramatically out of Flynn's rocket blasts, roaring.
HELL-KNIGHTS: Do we have to? Maybe the Barons should be more this colour.
CACOS: RED? Hardly going to be beleivable, is it? Unless, of course, they were composed of rotting flesh, dripping blood. IMO the light from a Cacos mouth when they fire is pretty scary, so work around this concept. They seriously have to be HUGE, though. Maybe weak as hell, just extremely numerous.
PAIN ELEMENTALS: See Doom64. Period. I think these guys are almost embarassing in the other Dooms, looking like a sack of potatoes.
LOST SOULS: It could be easy to do a realistic, scary skull-on-fire. Easy to mess it up, too. Maybe they're not so dumb, or just hallucinations that trick the marines into shooting each other.
REVENANT: Strictly NO. Skeletons in films always look poor. Maybe an ex-marine in a serious state of decomposition, with shoulder mounts.
ARCH-VILE: My favourite. Would only set things alight and/or explode them. Not a white colour, bt a dull grey. VERY toothy mouth, more so than in the game.
ARACHS: Just less bright. Baby-blue eyes look a bit poor. Maybe the brain section is bleeding. Again, weak as hell, but loads of them.
MASTERMIND: Pretty much exact. IMO in Doom it looks out of place, being the most realistic looking (Kinda) enemy.
MANCUBUS: Very fleshy and disgusting. Maybe armed with flamethrowers, or some kind of incendiary. No longer says 'Hungy vowel'. Maybe there's just the one. And it HAS to die in the same way!
CYBIE: Maybe this guy instead of the ICON. About five storeys high, walks very slowly, and nearly invincible (Think the Terminator's first appearance. Maybe they have to kill it in a similar way, too). Obviously fires rockets a HELL of a lot slower, as they're going to have to be more realistic, and destroy loads. Maybe he takes out an entire marine base this way.
WOLFENSTEIN SOLDIERS: Kidding, but a cameo (Maybe a poster in the bases living quarters) would be cool. Same about Keen. And Hissy. And mewse.

I've never typed so much, but the ideas I've posted may work for Doom3, or maybe we can keep them for D3, eh?

where do you guys find out all this stuff?
i had no idea there was a doom movie in the making and i didnt even know about doom three till i found doomworld, about a month ago. i need to know ware you figue out all this stuff.

Wasn't there a movie based on Zelda. I can't remember to well but there was a huge Black or extremely Dark Red demon with huge black horns. I thought the movie was great, but of course that was a long long time ago.

NiGHTMARE said:

A CGI Doom movie would be the best approach.

Have you seen the CGI Starship Troopers series? Okay, so the plot and characters are really, really badly done, but if they got some decent scriptwriters that series would be so cool.

Uha, uha. That would be cool. Like, yea, what you said, SST, or the movie Titan A.E. But no, I would rather see "movie" movie.

Flame on?? No! What you just brought up {especially imaginig the marble stone block with the red pentagram in real life} made me drool! You wanna know why the stopped making it? Becuase Sony killed it after Columbine shooting. Bull shit. But I HOPE, I REALLY fucking hope they make a DooM movie. I don't care how badly they act, or if they dudes stomache is sticking out, and his lower pants area has some odd bulge... You have to admit, NO MATTER what, it would be so sweet to see the CacoDemon, or ANY of the monsters, on the big screen. But of most, I think if they ever did, they should base it on the DooM novels by Dafydd ab. Hugh, and Brad Linaweaver. -Jeremy

And deadnail, imagine the surround sound effect, when the huge Cyberdemon comes on the screen, and he blast's a rocket, and it blow's a giant green marble pillar with a red pentagram, and the piller shatters, and you hear "ROARRR!!!!!" "Whapooosh!" "BOOOM!!!!" Damnit! Were is the DooM movie {cry, cry, cry.}

Well, in that case I will bring to you a nice female alien to have spend together a full romantic evening..AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
get a life and live ms.Croft. Of course Tomb and Doom will suck as movies because the creators wanted to.
If they spend LOOOT of money they could create a high grotesk monster thriller movie or else shitholes.

Doom4Ever said:

where do you guys find out all this stuff?
i had no idea there was a doom movie in the making and i didnt even know about doom three till i found doomworld, about a month ago. i need to know ware you figue out all this stuff.

HAHAHAHA.

NiGHTMARE said:

A CGI Doom movie would be the best approach.

Have you seen the CGI Starship Troopers series? Okay, so the plot and characters are really, really badly done, but if they got some decent scriptwriters that series would be so cool.

I can't wait to see a full length computer animated motion picture that has the same quality as the cinematics in Diablo 2, and what we've seen so far of Warcraft III...that will rule.

deadnail said:

I like the pistols, though. Chrome plated HK USP Match .45's with the ribbed extension still black matte. I'm still a fan of the M1911 myself, though. Oh well.

Dude, why do you say shit like that? It sounds like you expect everybody in this forum to know what the fuck youre talking about. Why not just say: "I like the guns". Thats more than enough. Do you actually think people are going to reply like: "well, I agree, but I prefer the flower powered QOCNSDHF3235082 Gaytorade with monkey slapping silencer and dildo trigger"?? NO! because only you and some other gun freak are the only ones in this forum that know what the fuck youre talking about. So dont show off your knowledge about guns, and then act and talk about them as if it was everyday language!

PS you are an all-black-outfited homicidal gothic satan worshiping FREAK, arent you? And if youre not, thats the kind of message youre giving to other people.

Malice Rancor said:

Wasn't there a movie based on Zelda. I can't remember to well but there was a huge Black or extremely Dark Red demon with huge black horns. I thought the movie was great, but of course that was a long long time ago.

It was called LEGEND...and it had no ties with Zelda at all.

it was about unicorns and shit...GREAT MOVIE.

the only thing it had to do with zelda is that Tom cruise(hero guy) looked a lot like link.

but this came way before zelda did....so link looks like tom cruise instead

ah damn you!! it took eight weeks of counsiling to get my
doom-the movie addiction out of my head and now hear you are acting like a gun know-it all saying that lara croft is NOT fit-you fuking unok-doom the movie would be bloody amazing-slap in some cash and a half decent director working alongside the makers of the game and you are bould to get success.SF the movie was only shite because there is nothing to work with but the game, doom however has a massive fan base and has consturcted a vast and detailed world-if the director or actors need inspiration they can turn to this-your momma could probably do the pink demons quite well tho....

*sob* oh poor lil widow, did Deadnail hurt yer fillins.
It's ok, Doom3 the movie won't suck, that's right, it's all
better now.

JaYeXTee said:

Dammit, my message got erased... it was a long one too... anyway, I basically said that atmosphere is key in the movie, and it could make somthing like the marines goofy outfit look serious and believable on screen without changing it at all.
Also, there is no way that all the monsters and story and atmosphere could be condensed into the 2+ hours the movie would last.

elyuca said:

Dude, why do you say shit like that? It sounds like you expect everybody in this forum to know what the fuck youre talking about. Why not just say: "I like the guns". Thats more than enough. Do you actually think people are going to reply like: "well, I agree, but I prefer the flower powered QOCNSDHF3235082 Gaytorade with monkey slapping silencer and dildo trigger"?? NO! because only you and some other gun freak are the only ones in this forum that know what the fuck youre talking about. So dont show off your knowledge about guns, and then act and talk about them as if it was everyday language!

PS you are an all-black-outfited homicidal gothic satan worshiping FREAK, arent you? And if youre not, thats the kind of message youre giving to other people.

Deadnail a Goth? I imagine him more like a lumberjack type: jeans, red checked shirt, brawny, and somewhat overweight :)