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i think the community is pretty unaware of the competitive scene, we should make a list of best players by category, since the most played competitive modes in (and closest to) doom are duel and ctf, i can already think of a few, like:

CTF
  Best capturer
  Best mid
  Best defense
  Best "jack of all trades"

Duel
  Oldschool
  Newschool
where newschool adds rocketjump (zdoom 1.22 impulse), jump and freelook (except for bfg).

the tournaments looks like a good thermometer for now, discuss.

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I'm worried such a topic would become a dick measuring contest, but as long as everyone stays civil, it should be okay.

I don't know how exactly I would rank rank each of these players, the fact is "skill" is often swayed greatly depending on map selection and gamemode. Some honorable mentions that I personally know to be damn good:

DemonSphere
Jkist
Devastation
RoSking
Ralphis
Ru5tk1ng

There are many, many Doomers missing from this list, but I know each of these players are damn good at racking up frags. Hopefully others will put a few names out there.

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CTF
Best capturer: Jenova
Best mid: RottKing
Best defense: DevastatioN
Best "jack of all trades": Mikehail

Duel
Oldschool: DemonSphere
Newschool: RoSKing

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I'm not sure how worth input from a known cheater is, Shogun, but whatever floats your boat.

Here's some words of wisdom from the latest member of Doomworld's loser forum!
CTF tier list

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there are my Consideration of the BEST CTF and DUEL PLAYERS!!! maybe i don't know what does mean Mid and "Jack of all trades":
Best Capturer: Marcaek
Best Mid : JCD
Best Defense: Dranzer
Best "Jack of all trades": Myself.

Duel:
OldSchool : Mack
NewSchool : Turret Master/Gus Grav

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XCOPY said:

i think the community is pretty unaware of the competitive scene, we should make a list of best players by category, since the most played competitive modes in (and closest to) doom are duel and ctf, i can already think of a few, like:


I think they are:

http://forums.zdaemon.org/viewtopic.php?t=12211&sid=e307a23252d5573007ced7d9518df57f
http://forums.zdaemon.org/viewtopic.php?t=5789&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

But whatever.

CTF        EU             USA / CA
Float:     Gyrossman      Chaindude / Jenova
Middle:    Xsnake         NoStar / Armour
Defense:   Mortalogy      DemonSphere / Devastation
"Best JOAT" WeaponX       Xenaero / Whiteboy

Duel
Oldschool: Ocelot         Chewy
Newschool: Mortalogy      DemonSphere 


2v2 TDM
        Xsnake & Fsn76    Chaindude & MetalBlack


FFA
           Xsnake         Chaindude 


Instagib
           Xsnake         DemonSphere    
   

Rocket Jump
           Nosturi        TimeOfDeath


Jumpmaze
           Lightning      Snail
    
BONUS:
Spoiler

Freestyle: JCD
Spammest: Hugo
Zombie Run: Assm0
Zombie Mid: Dranzer
Zombie Def: Otacon
Laggiest: AVC

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MetalGuy213 said:

maybe i don't know what does mean Mid and "Jack of all trades"

That probably means you haven't had enough exposure to really know what players are out there. Mid is the person who sits between defense and offense to keep the middle protected. Here you have the opportunity to attack oncoming players as well as escort your flag carrier back to base safely.

Jack of all trades is a common expression, meaning you aren't exactly a pro, but you can competently do a bit of any position, gamemode or playstyle. I don't think I'm qualified for "best", but that definitely represents me as a Doomer. I do a bit of everything.

Also Decay this forum is finally cleansed of Capo's absurd posting, don't link to his ramblings, I didn't read beyond the first lines for the sake of my mental health..

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Karakurt said:

I think they are:

http://forums.zdaemon.org/viewtopic.php?t=12211&sid=e307a23252d5573007ced7d9518df57f
http://forums.zdaemon.org/viewtopic.php?t=5789&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

But whatever.

Spoiler

CTF        EU             USA / CA
Float:     Gyrossman      Chaindude / Jenova
Middle:    Xsnake         NoStar / Armour
Defense:   Mortalogy      DemonSphere / Stall
"Best JOAT" WeaponX       Xenaero/ Whiteboy

Duel
Oldschool: Ocelot         Chewy
Newschool: Mortalogy      DemonSphere 


2v2 TDM
        Xsnake & Fsn76    Chaindude & MetalBlack


FFA
           Xsnake         Chaindude 


Instagib
           Xsnake         DemonSphere    
   

Rocket Jump
           Nosturi        TimeOfDeath


Jumpmaze
           Lightning      Snail
    
BONUS:
Spoiler

Freestyle: JCD
Spammest: Hugo
Zombie Run: Assm0
Zombie Mid: Dranzer
Zombie Def: Otacon
Laggiest: AVC

That's a very good list, if we were in 2010. Guys like Whiteboy, Chain, Nostar, Metalblack aren't even in the community anymore and haven't been for years.

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Current lists are the only thing that matter. An all-time, global list doesn't mean anything especially when half the names in those threads you linked are so far removed from the game (and it was really all circle jerking to be honest). Even Capo's list has more legitimacy since it has a lot of current players.

Oh well, good intentions I guess. ;0

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Doomkid said:

That probably means you haven't had enough exposure to really know what players are out there. Mid is the person who sits between defense and offense to keep the middle protected. Here you have the opportunity to attack oncoming players as well as escort your flag carrier back to base safely.

Jack of all trades is a common expression, meaning you aren't exactly a pro, but you can competently do a bit of any position, gamemode or playstyle. I don't think I'm qualified for "best", but that definitely represents me as a Doomer. I do a bit of everything.


Thanks for telling me that. thanks mr.DoomKid :)
-MetalGuy213/NoobKing

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Ru5tK1ng said:

Current lists are the only thing that matter. An all-time, global list doesn't mean anything especially when half the names in those threads you linked are so far removed from the game (and it was really all circle jerking to be honest). Even Capo's list has more legitimacy since it has a lot of current players.

Oh well, good intentions I guess. ;0


As I told Razgriz the reason I didn't feel like making that list is because a good part (not to say most) of the competitive playerbase is gone, well that and the fact that some players (says Xsnake, Fluffles, Xaver) aren't reliable enough as they just come and go.

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Top players ive ever played against when dueling (2007-2013)

Zdaemon: Turska, mortal, jkist3, devastation, gyrossman, titan, sniper, welkin, xsnake, sedlo, demonsphere, ilekallio, wabe
Zandronum: Ivan, Ilekallio, Xaver, rosking, Nati, johnzombie, metal, watermelon, russiandumbass
Odamex: Jkist3, Devastation, ralphis, demonsphere.

Just a quick draft of what Ive experianced. Sorry I cant really help much in the last few years as I havent got the interest in dueling like I use to

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Fluffles said:

Top players ive ever played against when dueling (2007-2013)

Zdaemon: Turska, mortal, jkist3, devastation, gyrossman, titan, sniper, welkin,


I'd also add Wabe!

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CTF
Best capturer: markub
Best mid: Devisin
Best defense: Kitty
Best "jack of all trades": Bojan

Duel
Oldschool Bahdko
Newschool Sandra-Krises


Pimp: capodecima

edit

Also Decay this forum is finally cleansed of Capo's absurd posting, don't link to his ramblings, I didn't read beyond the first lines for the sake of my mental health...


I dunno why you are so offended really. This is pretty much "joke" list i posted about CTF players on zan, but it somehow can be accurate sometime.

After all competitive players making lists of best competitive players is somehow not the best idea. This is not csgo or ql where people which rank best players in game are pretty much impartial and dont play csgo or ql on pro level some not even competitive at all.
I think the only good list about players which were ever made was from BahdKo. Seems be impartial for me and also based on experience she get in personaly meeting players and also knowing about game a lot.

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I'm not much of a multiplayer kind of guy, but for the period I was trying to get more skill, and while I was an active ChaosCore member, I had my ass handed to me several times by RoSKing. My only vote goes to RoSKing.

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With the CTF tournaments that are taking place this year, it'd be interesting if a dedicated few people grouped together to make a CTF power ranking of sorts for 2016.

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Two of the best duelers I know are ROSKing and iceykiller. My vote goes to them, even though icey doesn't play anymore.

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Can only really comment on zan duels, from playing for a few years and observing my top ten are:

01. Fluffles
02. Shadowforce
03. Rosking
04. Capo
05. Ivan
06. NRM (maybe I'm confused, is this skinlanen?)
07. Jwarrier
08. Nati
09. Water
10. Xaver

I've only beaten one person on this list :)

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Tbh a lot more names are coming to mind now like mathayus, caller, armour... I think Capo is very good at his peak, never saw enough of NRM to fully judge.

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capodecima said:

So i am legend now? I apeared in this thread.


Play Killstrike and beat him then cement your legend status ok.

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The problem is i got banned on Funcrusher till 3.march. I was trying ddos alexs servers with my old nokia 3110 on gprs connection and he somehow discovered it was me. :(

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capodecima said:

The problem is i got banned on Funcrusher till 3.march. I was trying ddos alexs servers with my old nokia 3110 on gprs connection and he somehow discovered it was me. :(


I don't know when you are joking Capo. You can play on GV or elsewhere y/n? If not I must award tournament to KS which no one wants...

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one_Two said:

Can only really comment on zan duels, from playing for a few years and observing my top ten are:

01. Fluffles
02. Shadowforce
03. Rosking
04. Capo
05. Ivan
06. NRM (maybe I'm confused, is this skinlanen?)
07. Jwarrier
08. Nati
09. Water
10. Xaver

I've only beaten one person on this list :)

To be fair, you've only ever beaten 1 person ever. You should add this guy to the list.

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