Valken Posted February 17, 2017 Hi all, Currently playing with the test builds of GZDoom64 and found out the default files cannot properly detect my software midi drivers on Windows 7 64 Bit. If I select Timidity++, VST Midi Driver or Coolsoft VirtualMidiSynth, it would output "cannot detect midi device" in the console. Then it would default back to the built in OS midi device (MS GM set). I then download and tested the 32 bit build (both the FEB 17th builds) and it detected back all my midi devices perfectly! Is there a way to fix this for the 64bit builds? I cannot find a specific 64bit of either of the 3 midi drivers listed above. The reason is that I like to choose my own SoundFonts to play certain wads with MIDI. Any help would be appreciated. 0 Share this post Link to post
Graf Zahl Posted February 17, 2017 Sadly this looks like the drivers are incompatible. I've never heard of such a thing but who knows what strange things can happen? About Timidity++, have you set it up properly? This is a bit odd, I have been using it with 64 bit for years without any problems. 0 Share this post Link to post
Valken Posted February 17, 2017 Hi Graf, GZdoom 32 bit builds works perfectly from 1.8 up to the current 2.4 FEB 17th dev build. I tested it in the sound menu to ensure my OS Windows 7 64bit is setup correctly. Same with a Windows midi player and MPC HC. As soon as I load GZDoom 64 bit build then select either Timidity++, or VirtualMidiSyth (software midi device that loads SoundFonts), it would display the error message in the console. Then it would DEFAULT back to the MS GM Synth midi setup. 64 bit does not even detect VST MIDI DRIVER (software VTS to Midi device) at all. Timidity++, VirtualMidiSyth http://coolsoft.altervista.org/en/virtualmidisynth, VST Midi Driver https://mudlord.info/products.html are all setup properly and working under Windows 7 64 bit for both GZDoom 32bit, ZDoom 32 bit and QZdoom 32 bit as well as desktop apps. Just for fun, checked all the current builds on DRD: GZDoom Feb 17 Eternity Feb 16 Odamex Oct 20 QZDoom Feb 16 Zdoom Dec 29 All 32bit versions can detect all the midi devices. All 64bit cannot detect as above in FMOD EX All 64bit cannot also detect System Sound (which should be the default Microsoft GS Soundsynth), GUS, Wildmidi (not installed) in OpenAL mode. Fluidsynth does say no soundfont found in OpenAL but does not list error in FMOD EX mode. It could be a x64 compatibility issue but VirtualMidiSynth is both x32/x64 whereas Timidity++ and VST Midi Driver are both x32 as far as I know. 0 Share this post Link to post
Graf Zahl Posted February 17, 2017 I can't look into your computer, but if Timidity++ doesn't work there's something else at work, as it's just an external process that shouldn't depend just on the architecture of the executable. Can you start the engine with '+logfile log.txt' and then select each of the devices, try to play some music and post the file with the actual output here? Maybe that will give some clues. 0 Share this post Link to post
Valken Posted February 17, 2017 Using GZDoom64 FEB 17 build: Spoiler Log started: Sat Feb 18 01:07:45 2017 M_LoadDefaults: Load system defaults. Using program directory for storage W_Init: Init WADfiles. adding D:/Doom/gzdoom2.4.64/gzdoom.pk3, 693 lumps adding doom_complete.pk3, 3277 lumps I_Init: Setting up machine state. CPU speed: 3999 MHz CPU Vendor ID: GenuineIntel Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz Family 6, Model 60, Stepping 3 Features: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 SSE4.1 SSE4.2 I_InitSound: Initializing OpenAL Opened device Speakers (Sound Blaster X-Fi MB 3) EFX enabled V_Init: allocate screen. S_Init: Setting up sound. ST_Init: Init startup screen. Checking cmd-line parameters... S_InitData: Load sound definitions. G_ParseMapInfo: Load map definitions. Texman.Init: Init texture manager. ParseTeamInfo: Load team definitions. LoadActors: Load actor definitions. script parsing took 71.34 ms R_Init: Init Doom refresh subsystem. DecalLibrary: Load decals. M_Init: Init menus. P_Init: Init Playloop state. ParseSBarInfo: Loading default status bar definition. ParseSBarInfo: Loading custom status bar definition. D_CheckNetGame: Checking network game status. player 1 of 1 (1 nodes) I_InitInput I_StartupMouse I_StartupKeyboard I_StartupXInput I_StartupRawPS2 I_StartupDirectInputJoystick GL_VENDOR: ATI Technologies Inc. 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GL_EXT_texture_sRGB GL_EXT_texture_sRGB_decode GL_EXT_texture_shared_exponent GL_EXT_texture_snorm GL_EXT_texture_storage GL_EXT_texture_swizzle GL_EXT_timer_query GL_EXT_transform_feedback GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra GL_EXT_vertex_attrib_64bit GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_KHR_debug GL_KTX_buffer_region GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_conditional_render GL_NV_copy_depth_to_color GL_NV_copy_image GL_NV_depth_buffer_float GL_NV_explicit_multisample GL_NV_float_buffer GL_NV_half_float GL_NV_primitive_restart GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_texture_barrier GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays WGL_EXT_swap_control Max. texture size: 16384 Max. texture units: 18 Max. varying: 128 Max. combined shader storage blocks: 8 Max. vertex shader storage blocks: 8 Resolution: 1920 x 1080 Could not open MIDI out device Starting MIDI playback failed Starting MIDI playback failed <-------------------------------> nv_map01 - The Earth Base Starting MIDI playback failed Could not open MIDI out device Failed to load any MIDI patches. Could not open MIDI out device I_InitSound: Initializing FMOD FMOD Sound System, copyright © Firelight Technologies Pty, Ltd., 1994-2009. Loaded FMOD version 4.44.60 Could not open MIDI out device Failed to load any MIDI patches. Could not open MIDI out device Could not open MIDI out device I_InitSound: Initializing OpenAL Opened device Speakers (Sound Blaster X-Fi MB 3) EFX enabled Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth, VirtualMidiSynth, Timidity++ and System Sound all are using the MS GS Synth but volumes are slighty different except for: Note under OpenAL, no sound from Timidity, GUS or System Sound. libFluidsynth64 did not load SoundFonts (might be soundfont or dir config issue) Under FMOD EX, no sound from GUS. libFluidsynth64 did not load SoundFonts (might be soundfont or dir config issue) Under the 32 bit build FEB 17, Timidity++, VirtualMidiSynth and VST Midi Driver all work as it configured. Still need to mess around with Fluidsynth to configure it properly. You can test with your current Timidity++ to check 32 vs 64 bit. 0 Share this post Link to post
Valken Posted February 19, 2017 Updated - I uninstalled and reinstalled VirtualMidiSynth and ensured it is both 32/64 bit enabled and it works now with 64 bit sourceports. However, the other issues are still valid. I believe Timidity++ and VST Midi Driver must be native 64 bit for sourceports to work properly. It is similar to the same situation with Fluidsynth. If any of you coders can help port Timidity++ and VST Midi Driver over to native 64 bits, it would be greatly appreciated. I will email the developers to see if they are able to help. 0 Share this post Link to post
Graf Zahl Posted February 19, 2017 Valken said:I believe Timidity++ must be native 64 bit for sourceports to work properly. The weird thing is, I heard that before and yet, for me there's no problems. I can use the 32 bit version with 64 bit GZDoom without any problems. It may be that something tries to inject itself into the process and is too dumb about it. But I have no idea what software you got installed and what may do such a thing. As for porting that code, good luck. The project is a complete and utter mess. 0 Share this post Link to post
Valken Posted February 20, 2017 Can you load a totally different soundfont in Timidity++ that does not sound like the Windows GS Soundfont in any 64 bit source build? On a related note I found the github for the VST Midi Driver here: https://github.com/kode54/vstdriver but no installer so have emailed the author. Hopefully he will find time to respond later. 0 Share this post Link to post
