Visplane Overflow! Posted March 8, 2018 P_NewChaseDir : called with no target 1 Share this post Link to post
idbeholdME Posted March 8, 2018 In almost all situations, the Baron will win, simply due to the massive HP advantage. Revenant requires very specific conditions AND to get lucky to even stand a chance like extreme ranges (as homing missiles will give him an advantage) or a ledge, where he can move only to the sides and dodge Baron's shots. 1 Share this post Link to post
HavoX Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) The Baron of Hell can easily slay a single Revenant dead due to its massive bulk. A hoard of Revenants on the other hand... well, I think you get the draft. 2 Share this post Link to post
scifista42 Posted March 8, 2018 Hell Knight is a Baron with half as much HP, and even he reliably beats the Revenant in a 1-vs-1 fight on plain ground. 5 Share this post Link to post
BigDickBzzrak Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) The baron invariably wins, but only if he has the opportunity to close in. If not, then it can be unpredcatable. 0 Share this post Link to post
Visplane Overflow! Posted March 8, 2018 I know some people say that BoH will wins. For me, revenant usually wins bcuz of its speed and missiles.BoH attack are somewhat slower than revenant and revenant always run in zig-zag pattern if there are enough space. 0 Share this post Link to post
HavoX Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) Yeah, but speed doesn't always prevail in this case. In the player's case, it's about wits. ;) 0 Share this post Link to post
seed Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) Baron of Hell easily, they're the stronger enemy. Then you proceed to kill him :v . E: Also, in all wads I played until this point where I managed to make the Revenants infight with the Barons the latter always won, so it's also something I saw with my own eyes and not just an opinion or preference. Edited March 8, 2018 by Agent6 0 Share this post Link to post
Scorpinax Posted March 8, 2018 I think Hell Knight vs Revenant would be a better match up. Since monsters don't dodge projectiles like players, it comes down to a sheer battle of might almost 100% of the time, which the baron easily wins. 1 Share this post Link to post
Uni Posted March 8, 2018 Close range: Baron will prevail. Long range: Revenant will prevail. 2 Share this post Link to post
Cruduxy Pegg Posted March 8, 2018 Baron of hell unless you completely rig it in the revenant's favor, There isn't even a contest. HK vs Rev tends to be more balanced since the revenant might roll high damage and kill the hk first. 1 Share this post Link to post
Zulk RS Posted March 8, 2018 Baron almost always wins. Even at long distances. The only way the revenant has a chance to win is if he either has the high ground or on a thin ledge so he can dodge Baron projectiles easier or both with a chasm in the middle to prevent the revenant having his face punched in. Even then it's mostly 50-50. Revenants also tend to lose to a Hell Knight more often than not but that one is far less predictable. Put the revenant on a ledge or give it the high ground against a HK and it will win most of the time. 1 Share this post Link to post
galileo31dos01 Posted March 8, 2018 What kind of "Vs." are these? Are we talking about both monsters in infighting, or which of the two people like more, or a different case? Because, if the first case, the last poll's results were a bit uneven, considering the various circumstances that prove spidey or the other one winning, so in this poll I'd vote for the baron any day, because in infighting he wins almost all the time no matter what the distance between him and a rev (if you put a very specific example like idbeholdME did, I wouldn't know which one to vote), yet if Revenant gets votes or even wins then people are clearly voting for the monster the like more, which is totally ok of course, but I'd like to know the kind of "Vs." here... 3 Share this post Link to post
baja blast rd. Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) Who would win: cyberdemon vs. former human trooper. I know most people would pick the cyb, but in my opinion the trooper would win -- it can dodge all of the cyberdemon's attacks, but the trooper's attacks are hitscan so can't be dodged. Give the cyber some cover and just maybe it pulls out a victory, otherwise my opinion is that the trooper is favored. 16 Share this post Link to post
Deadwing Posted March 8, 2018 All I know is that Revs > Boringrons of Hell 1 Share this post Link to post
seed Posted March 8, 2018 54 minutes ago, rdwpa said: Who would win: cyberdemon vs. former human trooper. I know most people would pick the cyb, but in my opinion the trooper would win -- it can dodge all of the cyberdemon's attacks Hm... but aren't they moving a bit too slow for that? I'd actually like to see this for myself tbh. 1 Share this post Link to post
Benjogami Posted March 8, 2018 The only way to figure this out is with science, so I crafted an exhaustive and indisputable experiment, in map form: baron vs rev.zip Spoiler It turns out that the revenant wins 100% of the time, even when the baron gets the first shot. Who could have predicted this?! 2 Share this post Link to post
jointritual Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Deadwing said: All I know is that Revs > Boringrons of Hell There are only boring because most of the time they are used incorrectly. 0 Share this post Link to post
xvertigox Posted March 8, 2018 Now I want an Oblivion arena style wad where you can bet on different monster composition fights :@ 0 Share this post Link to post
Reisal Posted March 8, 2018 Baron, because of sheer health (1,000) compared to the revenant (300). 0 Share this post Link to post
Visplane Overflow! Posted March 9, 2018 13 hours ago, Scorpinax said: I think Hell Knight vs Revenant would be a better match up. Since monsters don't dodge projectiles like players, it comes down to a sheer battle of might almost 100% of the time, which the baron easily wins. Okay so the next part is Hell Knight VS Revenant 0 Share this post Link to post
Reaper8888 Posted March 9, 2018 Revenent would initially inflict damage by means of firing rockets, but Baron would still win due to higher health and strength. 0 Share this post Link to post
Jello Posted March 10, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 11:58 AM, Benjogami said: The only way to figure this out is with science, so I crafted an exhaustive and indisputable experiment, in map form: baron vs rev.zip Hide contents It turns out that the revenant wins 100% of the time, even when the baron gets the first shot. Who could have predicted this?! Amazing, the Revenant's rocket barage is just so overwhelming it's almost like the Baron can't move at all! The only experiment where I've managed to get the Revenant to win is when I put them on a platform that's higher than the Baron. And that's just because the Baron aims low and hits the edge of the platform. If he walks off to the side far enough he can hit the Revenant, but after watching it for 15 minutes with no winner I got bored. If they're on even ground with the same room to maneuver, the Baron just walks up and bitch slaps the Revenant into submission. 0 Share this post Link to post
KVELLER Posted March 11, 2018 On 8/3/2018 at 2:28 PM, Agent6 said: Hm... but aren't they moving a bit too slow for that? I'd actually like to see this for myself tbh. I'm pretty sure that wasn't meant to be taken seriously. 0 Share this post Link to post
seed Posted March 11, 2018 10 hours ago, KVELLER said: I'm pretty sure that wasn't meant to be taken seriously. Even so I'm still curious, that stirred my interest lol :v . 1 Share this post Link to post
Catpho Posted March 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Agent6 said: Even so I'm still curious, that stirred my interest lol :v . Out of all topics XD 0 Share this post Link to post