Map Spot Tagging?

Are you using Hexen or UDMF format? If so, it should be under the action/tag/misc tab in the things menu.

6 minutes ago, Aquila Chrysaetos said:

Are you using Hexen or UDMF format? If so, it should be under the action/tag/misc tab in the things menu.

Ah, I'm just using Zdoom in Doom format. Are those formats required for spawning monsters? I'm also not seeing any tabs when I enter Edit thing mode.

3 minutes ago, HolyHominid said:

Ah, I'm just using Zdoom in Doom format. Are those formats required for spawning monsters? I'm also not seeing any tabs when I enter Edit thing mode.

To spawn monsters from nothing, you will need a map format which supports ACS (Hexen or UDMF).

In a format without ACS, you will need to use monster closets with teleport actions and teleport destinations where you want them to appear, and then allow teleportation by raising a door or floor or something else with a line action.

To the best of my knowledge, you need Hexen or UDMF to spawn monsters using non-global ACS, and the only way to do that is to have map spots tagged for the things to spawn on top of.

It's best to use UDMF format for ZDoom editing now, anyway, because it offers a much greater degree of fine control than Hexen does.

10 minutes ago, Aquila Chrysaetos said:

To the best of my knowledge, you need Hexen or UDMF to spawn monsters using non-global ACS, and the only way to do that is to have map spots tagged for the things to spawn on top of.

It's best to use UDMF format for ZDoom editing now, anyway, because it offers a much greater degree of fine control than Hexen does.

Thanks, but I still can't find how to tag the map spot? When I go to Edit thing there are no tabs visible? 

11 minutes ago, Nevander said:

To spawn monsters from nothing, you will need a map format which supports ACS (Hexen or UDMF).

 

In a format without ACS, you will need to use monster closets with teleport actions and teleport destinations where you want them to appear, and then allow teleportation by raising a door or floor or something else with a line action.

I recently learned how to teleport enemies in from a monster closet, but it seems slow and clumsy, the way your monsters spawn in Retribution seems much nicer.  How much more difficult is it to do spawning with ACS?

@HolyHominid, you need to change your map format to one that supports thing tags (Hexen or UDMF), then that tab I was talking about will show up.

@guitardz, not very difficult, it turns out. You need to write a void script (that is, one that will execute when its special is called) and use one of the several Spawn specials (Spawn, SpawnForced, SpawnSpot, SpawnSpotForced, SpawnSpotFacing, SpawnSpotFacingForced) to spawn in the thing you want.

Here are the pages for all the aforementioned specials:

https://zdoom.org/wiki/Spawn

https://zdoom.org/wiki/SpawnForced

https://zdoom.org/wiki/SpawnSpot

https://zdoom.org/wiki/SpawnSpotForced

https://zdoom.org/wiki/SpawnSpotFacing

https://zdoom.org/wiki/SpawnSpotFacingForced

I use SpawnSpotFacingForced, which allows me to create an actor using its DECORATE name at a map spot of a given tag, but also forces it to spawn, whether it's blocked or not, facing the direction that the map spot is facing.

1 hour ago, HolyHominid said:

Thanks, but I still can't find how to tag the map spot? When I go to Edit thing there are no tabs visible? 

In DiHF or UDMF insert the mapspot into your map.

Highlight the mapspot in Things mode.

Go to the bottom of the edit pane and type in the tag number, eg 100