Stifled Man Casino - new map

Aw hell yeah another NatrualTvventy release!

I'll drop an FDA after class tomorrow

38 minutes ago, NaturalTvventy said:

It'll be part of a map set at some point.

Oh nice, gonna tell us a little more or are you gonna keep it secret?

13 hours ago, chowbar said:

Aw hell yeah another NatrualTvventy release!

I'll drop an FDA after class tomorrow

 

 

Oh nice, gonna tell us a little more or are you gonna keep it secret?

Heh just that I'm going to combine all my recently-released maps at some point. I really meant to hold on to this one until the pack release date but I have patience problems.

2 minutes ago, NaturalTvventy said:

Heh just that I'm going to combine all my recently-released maps at some point.

Sounds great, can't wait to play em!

Really liked Boomstick earlier this year so I can't wait to give this a shot!

I saw the strange title on the WADS front page so I briefly thought you were sharing like a BTSX E3 map for like a split second haha

4 minutes ago, chowbar said:

 

Really liked Boomstick earlier this year so I can't wait to give this a shot!

 

Thanks! This map may be a polar opposite of Boomstick however. 

I broke it. Picked up the red key and tried to go through the RK door when the map collapsed on itself. Happens around 5 minute mark in the attached demo, played with glboom+ 2.5.1.3 and complevel 2.

Seems like a fun arena-style map if not for the small technical difficulties. 

FDA_casino_Veinen.zip

Can confirm map goes FUBAR after grabbing the red key.

Well, there are definitely no revenants. Played through with one death (Resurrected myself because I couldn't go through the ordeal again). Without opening Doom Builder, I presume there is a trapped awake Pain Elemental, slowly filling the main arena with lost souls. For someone who gets lost as often as I do, this quickly became a nightmare.

l;l

5 hours ago, Veinen said:

I broke it.

Fixed! Sorry 'bout that :)

12 hours ago, NaturalTvventy said:

A semi-quicky MAP01 for DOOM2. Limit removing. Absolutely no revenants. 

Oh yeah, and I'll playtest this sometime.

FDA attached. I did lose my bearings a couple of times, perhaps due to the general symmetry and uniform texturing - but overall i had a fun rampage through this thanks to the nice level of firepower provided! The lost soul trickle was perhaps more of a nuisance and ammo sink to me more than anything :P 

ScottyCasinoFDA.zip

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That was fun. Basically like Scotty I had slight troubles with orientation in spite of the big arrows lol, and the everlasting lost souls made it worse. Completely blind and around 25 minutes, missing two secrets and ignoring the two teleporting big guys, well actually preferred to leave them alone :P

The four-way symmetry can be disorienting i’m sure. Any suggestions for making it easier?

The only thing that didn't click to me at first was to step out backwards of the long teleports, as you teleport facing to the centre and lost souls do it too, so that's the confusing part imo. I honestly can't think right now what to suggest there that doesn't affect the intended gameplay (those lost souls in particular). Perhaps another opening somewhere else close to the BK, that doesn't require using the aforementioned teleporters. 

12 minutes ago, galileo31dos01 said:

The only thing that didn't click to me at first was to step out backwards of the long teleports, as you teleport facing to the centre and lost souls do it too, so that's the confusing part imo. I honestly can't think right now what to suggest there that doesn't affect the intended gameplay (those lost souls in particular). Perhaps another opening somewhere else close to the BK, that doesn't require using the aforementioned teleporters. 

Yeah, I made the blue key that way on purpose to introduce a bit of puzzle solving into the level. I’m hoping the key is visible enough to at least point the player in the right direction. I am going to try to make it more obvious where the keys get used after picking them up though.

Ok here's the FDA which is about 20 minutes before I get nailed by a cybie rocket, HMP, complevel 2

Yup you were right NaturalTvventy this is like almost the exact opposite of Boomstick

I'm not super great at navigation so by the time I cleared the outer ring and a little of the center arena, I still couldn't find any keys

I suspect that there might've been one in the dark imp maze though

It's chaotic and fast and although I'm never crazy about getting chased by a cybie, if that's the vibe you we're going for you def got it

The arrows and cardinal directions were nice to have although the arrows would've been more helpful if I had found any keys haha

chowbarcasino.zip

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/457022637

I play this at 2:39:12 into this playtest livestream. I was blindsided with the teleporting boss monster gimmick the first time around, but was alright after that. I have no idea how those Lost Souls in the centre kept appearing though.

(Also the lack of Revenants was great!)

6 minutes ago, Suitepee said:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/457022637

 

I play this at 2:39:12 into this playtest livestream. I was blindsided with the teleporting boss monster gimmick the first time around, but was alright after that. I have no idea how those Lost Souls in the centre kept appearing though.

 

(Also the lack of Revenants was great!)

It made me so angry I went and found it in Doombuilder. Very clever trick but also infuriating.

Took me less than a year to find the blue key!

This map has been on my mind since I first played it in July. I refused to watch the completed demos to figure it out.

I've tried it off and on, but in the past two days I decided to grind it out. 

Learned from plums and rehelekretep how to save/load in prboom+ demos so I used that to stitch all the attempts together. (You can see I saved at the end because at that point I gave in and got a save ready, but didn't end up needing it.)

Demo: duckStifleCasino.zip

Video:

Wow, thanks for the vid @DuckReconMajor. Talk about perseverance. 

FDA below.

A lot of gimmicks in here, infinite lost souls, dozens of teleporters, teleporting boss enemies around the map, it was kind of overwhelming at first, but I found the best strategies after dying. I really like the liberal usage of enemies and powerups in here, felt like a map by Tim Willits, but harder.

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