Tip for Barons

Just shoot them a lot but then use the chainsaw. Thats how i beat them in e1m8

5 rockets per Baron usually does the trick.

I've always admired this approach:

That's pretty awesome.

In my case, ever since I started watching decino's channel, I've developed a taste for killing barons with berserker fists.

Never really felt the need to chainsaw Barons since I usually have enough rockets and/or bullets to take them out.

1 hour ago, The Maverick013 said:

5 rockets per Baron usually does the trick.

Yeah, this is pretty much what I do. In all the difficulties, I've always had more than enough rockets. The only time I've never had enough rockets in E1M8 is the Classic Map version in 2016.

i like that they let the pinkie that killed the baon live

21 hours ago, jeroa said:

i like that they let the pinkie that killed the baon live

That's what the 'true pacifist' part of the title means, finishing a level without firing a single shot.

Was hoping this was a thread on when to use them in maps: If in doubt, don't.

Barons are fine. Play Sunlust or a good UDoom set, or hell, Counterattack, analytically, and it won't be hard to subsume the underlying theory. In capable hands, they can be used quite flexibly.

2 minutes ago, rdwpa said:

Barons are fine. Play Sunlust or a good UDoom set, or hell, Counterattack, analytically, and it won't be hard to subsume the underlying theory. In capable hands, they can be used quite flexibly.

I'm playing a mapset by a pretty competent mapper currently (Sunder). I've played Sunlust before. They can be used well, but generally a Hell Knight will do the job better*.

*Except when they don't.

Do you have a problem with much of Sunlust's baron usage? 

9 minutes ago, rdwpa said:

Do you have a problem with much of Sunlust's baron usage? 

No, Sunlust was great.

I'm more referring to their usage as a "Door with legs".

Door with legs and you only have a SS, "so fun!"

Barons can be efficient, although I find hard to use them

I prefer vulgar hand gestures and bad language personally...

What? You aren't supposed to kill them. Am calling the police right now.

Berserk or blow them up with a RL/BFG 👌.

7 hours ago, rdwpa said:

or a good UDoom set, or hell

Alternatively, play Richard Wiles’s UDoom PWAD (Crusades) to simulate a shotgun clicker game using just Barons in cramped spaces. Bonus points for ammo starvation, lack of berserk, and questionable pistol start balance. A master class in how to temporarily ruin the concept of a fairly useful enemy type.

All said, I like that mapset, but it’s driven me to find better uses for the ol’ Buster Brothers.

@Pegg @seed Now you two are next to each other and made me laugh. I like how your avatars are so similar.

ok so i used the chaingun for shooting,then the chainsaw!