RonnieJamesDiner Posted November 4, 2019 Does anyone know why the Pain Elemental has a Raise state on the ZDoom wiki page? 1 Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted November 4, 2019 40 minutes ago, RonnieJamesDiner said: Does anyone know why the Pain Elemental has a Raise state on the ZDoom wiki page? Because it has a raise state in vanilla. And yes since it doesn't leave a corpse normally, it means it can only be raised in some very specific, niche situations: when sector movement (like a closing door, or a crusher) flattens it during its death animation. If an actor is already dead and it gets ground down to a pool of blood, then the engine will directly put it in the pool of blood state, even if it hadn't finished playing its death animation. (You can also see this in how explosive barrels, when crushed, can also leave pools of blood...) Of course, when a squished actor is raised, it is raised as a ghost because of a bug. As a consequence, pain elementals can, in unmodded vanilla, only be raised as ghosts. Finally, the pain elemental raise states are very useful for DEHACKED purposes, because it's a nearly free source of frames that can be repurposed elsewhere. Compatibility with DEHACKED mods means that ZDoom absolutely has to have these states there. 15 Share this post Link to post
nrofl Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, RonnieJamesDiner said: Just a thought. Maybe its the animation for when an Archvile resurrects it Edit: didnt see gez's post 0 Share this post Link to post
RonnieJamesDiner Posted November 4, 2019 @Gez Gotcha. Seems kind of odd that it would be in there (vanilla) if the only circumstance in which it could be raised would result in a ghost PE, but the added frames for dehacked purposes sure seems valuable. 1 Share this post Link to post
RonnieJamesDiner Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) Oh what could have been... Edited November 5, 2019 by RonnieJamesDiner 39 Share this post Link to post
Dragonfly Posted November 5, 2019 Yet another duel map. This time in a fortified library! :D 37 Share this post Link to post
Andromeda Posted November 5, 2019 17 hours ago, RonnieJamesDiner said: Oh what could have been... What a nightmare! 5 Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted November 5, 2019 17 hours ago, RonnieJamesDiner said: Oh what could have been... Okay but we need pickups to leave "corpses" behind too so that arch-viles will also "resurrect" your BFG cells and medikits. 10 Share this post Link to post
Novaseer Posted November 5, 2019 3 Spectres managed to get a Cyberdemon stuck in this corner and killed it. Also a quick teaser of Depths 2. 8 Share this post Link to post
Slipgate Tourist Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) Taking a little break from killing to enjoy the show (wad is Zone 300) 4 Share this post Link to post
kaleb. Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) finished the first iteration of a second map now, tho im not sure if im entirely happy with how it plays tho im happy i was able to get this done in just a few days instead of weeks this time lol 23 Share this post Link to post
Kristian Nebula Posted November 5, 2019 More deathmatch mapping goodness for that upcoming lan party of 30+ people :) 23 Share this post Link to post
elend Posted November 5, 2019 @Dragonfly Damn, this looks really awesome. @KristianNebula Yours as well! 4 Share this post Link to post
wolfmcbeard Posted November 6, 2019 "Welcome to New Atlanta station, the train will be departing for Hell in 666 minutes" 10 Share this post Link to post
RonnieJamesDiner Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) Messing around with OTEX, map01 Hangar Entryway is starting to look a bit more interesting! Edited November 7, 2019 by RonnieJamesDiner : Freudian slip 23 Share this post Link to post
Yugiboy85 Posted November 7, 2019 15 hours ago, RonnieJamesDiner said: Messing around with OTEX, map01 Hangar is starting to look a bit more interesting! Awesome but, that's entryway :) hanger is e1m1 from doom 1 3 Share this post Link to post
dobu gabu maru Posted November 7, 2019 On 11/4/2019 at 6:12 PM, RonnieJamesDiner said: Oh what could have been... YES YES YES YES PLEASE TELL ME YOUR SECRET 1 Share this post Link to post
RonnieJamesDiner Posted November 7, 2019 25 minutes ago, Yugiboy85 said: Awesome but, that's entryway :) hanger is e1m1 from doom 1 Whoops! Thank you. On some level I like to believe I knew that. 16 minutes ago, dobu gabu maru said: YES YES YES YES PLEASE TELL ME YOUR SECRET Ouija boards and masochism. Lol I can't even imagine what slaughter maps would be like if this were standard fare in vanilla. I may have taken things even one step further with this grotesque abomination... 6 Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted November 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, RonnieJamesDiner said: Ouija boards and masochism. Lol I can't even imagine what slaughter maps would be like if this were standard fare in vanilla. I may have taken things even one step further with this grotesque abomination... 4 Share this post Link to post
Dutch Doomer Posted November 8, 2019 Tedious work, detailing this room. Probably never gonna do it like this ever again. 13 Share this post Link to post
galileo31dos01 Posted November 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Eris Falling said: :( Cover that imp's hole, there're children watching!!!!11!! 6 Share this post Link to post
Bauul Posted November 9, 2019 Very slowly plodding through a new Earth Episode map for Elementalism. 54 Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted November 9, 2019 Oh, it's the Bitter Coast. I expect a Nix-Hound will pop up from behind those rocks. 3 Share this post Link to post
Aurelius Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) I thought I'd share some of the contents of my hard drive - maps that have been abandoned and most likely will only be revisited if I ever happen to need parts of them for new projects. Here (so they don't blow up in your face): Spoiler Edited November 9, 2019 by Aurelius : Added a few more. 50 Share this post Link to post
Kristian Nebula Posted November 11, 2019 I just have to get that doomsphere before anyone else gets it! 16 Share this post Link to post
