PeterMoro Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) My latest map is finished! I tried to break my typical style of huge maps and challenged myself to make a small and short map. I started out making a 1024 map but ended up making something a little bigger. I'm glad I can finally get to use Otex textures. Gameplay is fast and intense and a bit slaughterish with a lot of close-quarters combat and continuous action. This map is difficult but not crazy difficult and there is plenty of health available. It's absolutely possible to complete this on the first playthrough. Ammo consumption and balance is a strong gameplay mechanic and while there is definitely enough ammo, you'll certainly want to be careful how you spend shells and bullets etc. I've playtested this many times and most of the time, after the final monster i had just a few shells left. The map has a chainsaw at the start of the map so that can help with ammo balance but I think most regular Doomers wouldn't have a problem. Story: In a desert crater on Deimos lies an ancient UAC storage facility. You have been called in to investigate. Name: Deimos forgotten storage pit Map Format: UDMF Ports Tested: GZDoom IWAD: Doom II Map(s):MAP01 Music: "On the hunt" by Robert Prince; performed by Andrew Hulshult. Gameplay: Single player only Difficulty Settings: No Multiplayer Placement:No Build Time: About a month, putting in a few hours a week. Textures: d1gfxd2.wad ( SargeBaldy) and Otex1.0 (Ukiro) Requirements: Jumping and crouching are disabled. Free look is permitted. Credits: Thanks to Gez for helping me solve some Slade texture mysteries. Monsters and items have been removed from the screenshots to avoid spoilers. Play time is around 15-20mins. Hope you enjoy it. DOWNLOAD HERE: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/d-f/dfsp Edited March 2, 2021 by PeterMoro 20 Share this post Link to post
Clippy Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) I want to play this but the download zip is very strange There is no textures in the wad and I can't see another wad with the textures and this download is full of extra unneeded files ? EDIT: I figured it out ... ish video is processing Edited September 6, 2020 by Clippy 2 Share this post Link to post
PeterMoro Posted September 6, 2020 49 minutes ago, Clippy said: I want to play this but the download zip is very strange There is no textures in the wad and I can't see another wad with the textures and this download is full of extra unneeded files ? EDIT: I figured it out ... ish video is processing 49 minutes ago, Clippy said: Thanks for taking a look. It works fine as a pk3 for me. i did forget to remove some unused Otex textures so the file size is pretty big. I'll take a look tonight and drop a new download link. I'm pretty noobish with the technical size of Doom wad creation and i usually make mistakes with Slade : ( 0 Share this post Link to post
Biodegradable Posted September 6, 2020 29 minutes ago, PeterMoro said: There is no textures in the wad and I can't see another wad with the textures Just load your own copy of OTEX 1.1 fam, it works fine otheriwse. 1 Share this post Link to post
Clippy Posted September 6, 2020 Just now, Biodegradable said: Just load your own copy of OTEX 1.1 fam, it works fine otheriwse. I did but there is still some textures not loaded at the end of my vid Also I got no custom music 0 Share this post Link to post
Biodegradable Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) Did you change the zip file to a pk3? I haven't played the WAD properly yet, so I can't comment on other textures missing, but the custom music's playing just fine for me. 1 Share this post Link to post
Clippy Posted September 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Biodegradable said: Did you change the zip file to a pk3? I haven't played the WAD properly yet, so I can't comment on other textures missing, but the custom music's playing just fine for me. Was that what I was suppose to do? 0 Share this post Link to post
Biodegradable Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) Yeah, when people's download files aren't compiled like Pete' done here: Just remove ".zip" and replace it with ".pk3" and it'll compile it and work as intended when you stick it in your sourceport. Edited September 6, 2020 by Biodegradable 3 Share this post Link to post
Clippy Posted September 6, 2020 @Biodegradable thanks very much I did not know this 🥴 2 Share this post Link to post
Biodegradable Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) Don't sweat it, fam. It's not common for people to have their WADs uncompiled like this, so I don't blame you for not knowing you can do this with zip files when this happens. I only learnt it was a thing you could do a couple of weeks ago. 2 Share this post Link to post
Pixel Fiend Posted September 6, 2020 Very nice use of otex. Have you made any map packs? 1 Share this post Link to post
Biodegradable Posted September 6, 2020 Excellent map, Pete. Much more concise and less unwieldy that that other big-ass map of yours. Straightforward progression, but tough-as-nails combat, especially on a pistol-start. The map's design is memorable and I had a fun time with it. It is a little on the short side, but given the monster that came before it, I definitely prefer this one. It's a lot more fun and less overwhelming in scope while also managing to look cool and impressive thanks to your use of height variation and complementary architecture. 10/10 ;^) 3 Share this post Link to post
PeterMoro Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Clippy said: I did but there is still some textures not loaded at the end of my vid Also I got no custom music Thanks for the playthrough! Really sorry that you had problems with the pk3 file. You had some textures missing and you couldn't hear the custom music. It all worked fine for me when I tested it...???? I saved as a zip file and renamed to to a .pk3 file but sometimes it would show as a .pk3.zip file, which is strange. I'll take a look tonight and re-upload. I'm terrible when it come to the technical side of wad formation and Slade etc. I often screw stuff up. Edited September 6, 2020 by PeterMoro 0 Share this post Link to post
PeterMoro Posted September 6, 2020 2 hours ago, <<Rewind said: Very nice use of otex. Have you made any map packs? Thank you! I have 3 other published maps. They are not like this one - they are quite lengthy and don't use Otex. 0 Share this post Link to post
PeterMoro Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Biodegradable said: Excellent map, Pete. Much more concise and less unwieldy that that other big-ass map of yours. Straightforward progression, but tough-as-nails combat, especially on a pistol-start. The map's design is memorable and I had a fun time with it. It is a little on the short side, but given the monster that came before it, I definitely prefer this one. It's a lot more fun and less overwhelming in scope while also managing to look cool and impressive thanks to your use of height variation and complementary architecture. 10/10 ;^) Really enjoyed watching your playthrough and thanks for using such a cool mod, it was killer! You missed two secrets but once came close to finding one. 10 / 10 ......!!!!!! Thanks so much Bio!!! Glad you liked it. 1 Share this post Link to post
TheNoob_Gamer Posted September 6, 2020 31 minutes ago, PeterMoro said: I saved as a zip file and renamed to to a .pk3 file but sometimes it would show as a .pk3.zip file IIRC you could just save your project as a .pk3 file from the get-go instead of having to go through a lot of hassle like that. 0 Share this post Link to post
PeterMoro Posted September 14, 2020 4 hours ago, mArt1And00m3r11339 said: I completed your map. Thanks for playing man! Hope you liked it. Why not record and post your first playthrough? It was pretty obvious that it wasn't your first time playing the wad. LOL Well I was impressed how you never saved once. You are pretty good at Doom. Thanks for posting the video. 1 Share this post Link to post
Gothic Box Posted September 14, 2020 Very fun overall. I played on UV and was low on health and ammo the whole time, so it gave me a good challenge (that or I just suck lol). Grabbing the plasma gun and letting 'er rip on the way back up was a blast that juxtaposed the drip feed of ammo that came before. Detailing and texture work was nice, I especially liked the fine linedef detailing. A couple things to note, however. I played on GZDoom 4.3.3 with only the .pk3 loaded and the linedefs on the starting stairs were missing textures. Some of the teleport traps, specifically the crate area and the super shotty, felt like whack-a-mole with imps as there was only one teleport exit. The archvile also aggroed on me while I was in the blue key pit, idk if you intended that or not. 8.5/10, hoping you make more maps 1 Share this post Link to post
PeterMoro Posted September 14, 2020 28 minutes ago, Gothic Box said: Very fun overall. I played on UV and was low on health and ammo the whole time, so it gave me a good challenge (that or I just suck lol). Grabbing the plasma gun and letting 'er rip on the way back up was a blast that juxtaposed the drip feed of ammo that came before. Detailing and texture work was nice, I especially liked the fine linedef detailing. A couple things to note, however. I played on GZDoom 4.3.3 with only the .pk3 loaded and the linedefs on the starting stairs were missing textures. Some of the teleport traps, specifically the crate area and the super shotty, felt like whack-a-mole with imps as there was only one teleport exit. The archvile also aggroed on me while I was in the blue key pit, idk if you intended that or not. 8.5/10, hoping you make more maps Thanks for playing! Glad that you liked it. Yeah, the stair textures are missing, that was a mistake i made in Slade that I'll fix before uploading to the ID archive. I'll tweak some of those teleport traps too. Thanks for the feedback. I have made a few maps before this one but they are mostly quite large maps with totally different gameplay. 1 Share this post Link to post
SCF Posted September 14, 2020 Hey, I played your map and enjoyed it overall. Here's my feedback: I liked the general layout, having the map be one big room that you fight your way to the center of (and then back out). It's also pretty compact. It looked small at first but it still took me 15 minutes to beat. The starting area looks very plain compared to the rest of the map, which doesn't give a great first impression. The interior part of the level is quite detailed, but the outside is just one flat surface with the UAC logos. Some vertical architecture around the stairway would also be nice I think, instead of just a short ledge separating you from the terrain. I liked some of the detailing and texture use, like the vent panel in your second last screenshot. But there's also a few places where you cut right through a texture, like the wall here, and I found that a little jarring. Spoiler I found the level a little easy on UV, but not so easy that it gets boring. In the early fights you have a lot of room, so you just have to avoid getting whittled down by hitscanners. Then on the way back up you have so many cells you can just hold mouse1 until everything is dead. The real danger is getting zapped by the archvile from way above before you even know where he is (all my deaths were because of that). Also, going back up I found that enemies tend to get stuck in the sloped radiation pits so they can't even fight back. I don't think the mancubi at the bottom added much. They're no threat unless you jump down before killing them first (and why would you?). It would be more interesting if they teleported in after you went down (although maybe not three of them...) Once you've hit the switch at the bottom, enemies keep teleporting in for quite a while even though there's no reason to stay after getting the blue key, especially since there's an archvile resurrecting things to take care of. Those enemies don't stop you from getting on the lift, so they don't serve much purpose. Are they supposed to spawn faster? 0 Share this post Link to post
PeterMoro Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, SCF said: Hey, I played your map and enjoyed it overall. Thanks for the feedback. Glad you enjoyed it. 0 Share this post Link to post
meapineapple Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) I recorded my playthrough of this map. It took a little adjustment, just remembering to use the chainsaw and infighting more often than is my habit, but I think the ammo balance was just about exactly right for what you were going for. I think there could have been another stimpack or two, and certainly more health on non-UV difficulties if there isn't already. My only real complaint is about the low light level. Especially in the lower levels where I ended up cranking up the brightness so I could see anything, and especially as it made the switch for the red key difficult for me to find. Not having a map really didn't help with that, either. Overall, though, I did enjoy it. 0 Share this post Link to post
PeterMoro Posted September 15, 2020 Thanks for playing @meapineapple ! Glad you liked it. Dude i think your brightness / screen settings were originally too dark. In everyone else's play throughs and my testing, the brightness was perfect. You came close to finding a secret in the SSG room. The other is in the in a wall of the top area near a crusher. Thanks for the feedback. 0 Share this post Link to post
PeterMoro Posted September 21, 2020 This wad has now been added to the IDgames archive and so the previous link is no longer active. For the final edit, numerous adjustments have been made to the gameplay, ammo / health balance, as well as monster spawning. There are a few more monsters added but also more health + ammo. If you never found all three secrets, perhaps consider a second playthrough. It's only 15 mins long after all. https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/d-f/dfsp 0 Share this post Link to post
goobi78 Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) Hey! You have recommended this wad to me so I just started to play it. But I have a question, at the start where the 2 thin doors are at I can't get through! But it did open when two chain gunners went through, so was I not fast enough? (Edit, the problem has been fixed by watching video.) Edited January 19, 2021 by goobi78 0 Share this post Link to post