Aubrey Hodges Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) At last! Final Doom Soundtrack: 20th Anniversary Edition has arrived! Enjoy the final conclusion to my dark and brooding journey into the realms of Doom. This release features nine brand new Bonus tracks and enhanced and remastered level tracks in extra long lengths. Happy Listening! -Aubrey (P.S. Sorry it took so long for me to finish) https://aubreyhodges.bandcamp.com/album/final-doom-playstation-official-soundtrack-20th-anniversary-extended-edition 79 Share this post Link to post
Biodegradable Posted November 23, 2020 Joyous day! Thank you for blessing us with your incredible work, Mr Hodges. :^) 0 Share this post Link to post
Dark Pulse Posted November 23, 2020 Would've helped if I looked at the board more before making my own topic on it. D'oh. XD 0 Share this post Link to post
leodoom85 Posted November 23, 2020 @Aubrey HodgesYou're the legend. I'll check them out later. I like the Master Levels tracks from that game, especially the one used in Geryon. 0 Share this post Link to post
Immorpher Posted November 23, 2020 Woo, and hour and a half of brand new bonus tracks! Yes please! 0 Share this post Link to post
Dimon12321 Posted November 23, 2020 Would be cool to implement bonus soundtracks into Doom Master Edition by GEC team. 0 Share this post Link to post
Vorpal Posted November 23, 2020 I don't meant to be ungrateful, because I think it's awesome what you've done, but the price point is preventing me from pulling the trigger on purchasing. $54 for the 3 soundtracks is reckless for people like me, meanwhile I spent $4 total on the bundle of Homeworld1/2/Kharak soundtracks. I'm not suggesting dropping the price that low but, perhaps the non-special editions at $8 apiece would be more palatable for the doom crowd. You have your own metrics of course though, and if they are selling then it would be stupid to lower the price, it's only out of the utmost respect that I'd explain why I wouldn't personally buy (if I didnt respect you I just wouldn't buy, and wouldn't say anything) 0 Share this post Link to post
Gifty Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) @Vorpal As a musician, feeling like I should pop in here: I know the internet has made this a very unpopular opinion, but musicians gotta eat, yo (especially right now, when nearly all of us in the USA are basically unemployed). This album's like 3+ hours long; if you were buying a record of this length from a standalone band, or god forbid in any kind of physical format, it would likely cost double what Aubrey's charging here. And $54 is definitely a lot to spend on music all at once, but that's because you're buying like ten hours of material. Just my 2 cents! 23 Share this post Link to post
OliveTree Posted November 23, 2020 I'm gonna have to agree with the above comment. Music isn't ephemeral and it's not cheap lol. I do think some of the albums could be a little less expensive since they've been out so long, but regardless it's free to listen to right on the bandcamp page! 0 Share this post Link to post
Devalaous Posted November 23, 2020 Listened to this last night with headphones. The old extended tracks had a bunch of neat new samples and effects for a lot more depth, and the new tracks were often 'uncomfortable' in how different and unknown they were. My only issue is that the cut level tracks for Subspace, Subterra and Vesperas weren't extended, but as those were never officially part of the game, I can understand. 0 Share this post Link to post
OniriA Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) As I said in the other topic, I wondered whether this would come out, so I'm glad to see it released. 1 hour ago, Gifty said: @Vorpal As a musician, feeling like I should pop in here: I know the internet has made this a very unpopular opinion, but musicians gotta eat, yo. While as a musician myself I can agree on that, it can also be said that for a fulltime producer releasing a few dark ambient albums between an X amount of years there's awful little to eat from. Unless he also does things like doing mixing / mastering for others or doing production for different companies, I don't think a musician would be able to 'survive' if he'd really only depend on those album sales. Edited November 23, 2020 by OniriA 0 Share this post Link to post
Vorpal Posted November 23, 2020 the "musicians need to eat" argument is a guilt trip that makes musicians out to be more deserving of money than others, and like it's our duty to feed them. I was actually arguing FOR buying these works instead of just streaming for free like everyone in this thread is probably doing. 0 Share this post Link to post
leodoom85 Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Gifty said: And $54 is definitely a lot to spend on music all at once, but that's because you're buying like ten hours of material. Funny that, comparing to a physical/digital game that can cost 59 bucks, the music set has enough hours to listen. And has more discs. Up to people who can buy it or not. If transactions to other countries weren't bad in here, I'd buy it. 0 Share this post Link to post
Denim Destroyer Posted November 23, 2020 Nice! Funny enough I was humming the Doom 64 theme today at work so it is amazing to come home and see this! 0 Share this post Link to post
Gifty Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Vorpal said: the "musicians need to eat" argument is a guilt trip that makes musicians out to be more deserving of money than others, and like it's our duty to feed them. I was actually arguing FOR buying these works instead of just streaming for free like everyone in this thread is probably doing. Wow, alright. Well, have a nice day I guess! 8 Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted November 25, 2020 The titles to some of these bonus tracks seem oddly humorous. Wobulation, garbulation... 1 Share this post Link to post
Job Posted November 25, 2020 PSX Final Doom had the superior sound track over PSX Doom, change my mind. That said, I'm not sure what the problem is with all of this. Aubrey isn't putting a gun to anyone's head and making them buy this. Sure, there's always other ways to do things, like with a Patreon-type at will donation, say, per track, but it's his music, his prerogative. 2 Share this post Link to post
Rudolph Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) On 11/23/2020 at 3:30 PM, Gifty said: @Vorpal As a musician, feeling like I should pop in here: I know the internet has made this a very unpopular opinion, but musicians gotta eat, yo (especially right now, when nearly all of us in the USA are basically unemployed). This album's like 3+ hours long; if you were buying a record of this length from a standalone band, or god forbid in any kind of physical format, it would likely cost double what Aubrey's charging here. And $54 is definitely a lot to spend on music all at once, but that's because you're buying like ten hours of material. Just my 2 cents! Not that I necessarily disagree, but do video game composers not get residuals, like other musicians? Or do they only get paid once for a soundtrack? 0 Share this post Link to post
Vorpal Posted November 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Rudolph said: do video game composers not get residuals, like other musicians? Or do they only get paid once for a soundtrack? Generally paid per minute of music, probably 100-250 USD/min would be something a kickstarter tier game is paying its composer. A "famous" (in terms of game industry) composer might be able to lock in some much bigger contract. I doubt any musician or composer is getting royalties from a video game though, unless they were a founding member of the studio in which case their "royalties" are in the form of shares of the company, not per-sale of Video-Game-[X]-That-They-Worked-On. 0 Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted November 25, 2020 Bobby Prince famously negotiated for royalties; that was the basis of his lawsuit against Gearbox. (And possibly the reason why Williams/Midway asked Aubrey Hodges to redo the whole soundtrack instead of reusing the PC one.) https://www.cgmagonline.com/2019/09/30/composer-bobby-prince-sues-gearbox-and-valve-over-duke-nukem-3d-music/ 1 Share this post Link to post
Gifty Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) Wasn't trying to derail Aubrey's thread; all I mean to say is, art is labor, labor has worth. Privileged megastars like Taylor Swift or Lars Ulrich have sort of ruined that argument for a lot of people, but it holds true for the overwhelming majority of smaller fish out there, whose wages Spotify measures in literal fractions of pennies. Also no--I've never worked in the video game industry, but my understanding is that composer royalties are overwhelmingly not the norm. I think Bobby Prince's agreement with Id was probably afforded by his special relationship with the studio really early on when everything was a little more wild west. Edited November 25, 2020 by Gifty 4 Share this post Link to post
Rudolph Posted November 25, 2020 I was just wondering, because I share the frustration with the prices but at the same time I cannot really complain since Aubrey Hodges had the good sense to upload his soundtracks on Bandcamp, where you can listen them for free! 2 Share this post Link to post
Bridgeburner56 Posted November 25, 2020 $18 for 23 tracks of this level of awesomeness? That's a fucking bargain 4 Share this post Link to post
Tristan Posted November 25, 2020 IMO $18 is perfectly reasonable and if I was in a more favourable position financially right now I'd happily pay above that because that soundtrack really is worth it. 2 Share this post Link to post
Aubrey Hodges Posted November 27, 2020 I apologize for not posting that much lately...terribly busy with too many projects. I want to make something very clear... If money is an issue, please just send me a note and ask for a bandcamp code. There is no need to give me the details, we have all been there. I am happy to help. I try to price my work at what I feel is a good value. And for the most part I think I have done pretty well in maintaining the balance by making sure it is available via free streaming and other similar services. But, I never want the money to get in the way of a fan who really wants to own my work (legally). So please, just send me a note via bandcamp and I will get a code to you. 16 Share this post Link to post
leodoom85 Posted November 27, 2020 On 11/25/2020 at 11:12 AM, Job said: PSX Final Doom had the superior sound track over PSX Doom, change my mind. I totally agree. 1 Share this post Link to post