Murdoch Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Jello said: I'm just glad I don't have Vincent Price floating around on a toilet cake telling me about the "Horrors of an unfresh bowl!". I thought of the same reference earlier. I am only vaguely aware of what nfts actually and yet am 100% certain i dont care. It's fake value and stuff like that never lasts. 0 Share this post Link to post
Wadmodder Shalton Posted December 15, 2021 In fact, Twitter should ban all NFT's on their platform to increase the security of both it's users, and famous celebrities. 2 Share this post Link to post
D4NUK1 Posted December 15, 2021 This is really sad, how the internet media can't really progress with stuff like NFT and Cryptomining sucking without control. I not against an economic digital medium or whatever, as some country really need a way like this, but this is without control and it's doing a great damage and really just sucking the economy of rich people in scams and make more thing worse for the poors. 0 Share this post Link to post
7Mahonin Posted December 15, 2021 Next they’ll have his hologram as a shitty pay to win mobile game advertisement. So far they’ve stuck with Kate Upton or 80s action stars but I wouldn’t put using dead celebrities past them. 0 Share this post Link to post
magicsofa Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Dubbag said: maybe im ignorant but i still don't understand anything you said lol. Like you can hawk an art piece as currency? I'll stick to the paper pictures of old men in my wallet thank you. The point of it, at least as far as I understand from my small amount of research, is that you have a certificate of authenticity built into the item. So for example, you could sell a one of a kind image online and know that there's only one authentic version of it. If you're thinking, "that's stupid, I can just download and copy the image myself," you'd be right. The only thing that's actually one of a kind (or however many are supposed to exist) is the certificate part. It's basically just a digital post-it note that says "this is the original" 2 Share this post Link to post
Mr. Freeze Posted December 15, 2021 16 minutes ago, magicsofa said: The point of it, at least as far as I understand from my small amount of research, is that you have a certificate of authenticity built into the item. So for example, you could sell a one of a kind image online and know that there's only one authentic version of it. If you're thinking, "that's stupid, I can just download and copy the image myself," you'd be right. The only thing that's actually one of a kind (or however many are supposed to exist) is the certificate part. It's basically just a digital post-it note that says "this is the original" Not even that, the the simple act of loading the NFT on your browser window creates a saved image on the NFT thanks to your cache. So, by merely browsing NFT Twitter, your web history is now worth millions of dollars. 1 Share this post Link to post
DannyMan Posted December 15, 2021 This already made NFTs unnecessary and worthless 0 Share this post Link to post
Syn Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, magicsofa said: The point of it, at least as far as I understand from my small amount of research, is that you have a certificate of authenticity built into the item. So for example, you could sell a one of a kind image online and know that there's only one authentic version of it. If you're thinking, "that's stupid, I can just download and copy the image myself," you'd be right. The only thing that's actually one of a kind (or however many are supposed to exist) is the certificate part. It's basically just a digital post-it note that says "this is the original" There isn't even a tangible benefit to having an original copy of something on the internet because literally everything will be spread around one way or another. A certificate of authenticity in an image is about as useful as caution tape lining a nuclear launch button; that is to say, it will do absolutely nothing other than make it look more important and special. Then again I think that's all these people want out of it. Some way to feel important and special. 1 Share this post Link to post
RDETalus Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, magicsofa said: It's basically just a digital post-it note that says "this is the original" That’s really all it is. I think NFTs will have some useful application in the future, but all these weird pictures of stuff is mostly price speculation. It reminds me of that banana that sold for several thousand dollars. Anyone could tape a banana to a wall, but this one is special, it’s the original, and people with money use it for weird things like price speculation or tax schemes. Edited December 15, 2021 by RDETalus 1 Share this post Link to post
Friendly Lich Posted December 15, 2021 LMAO, they dont even care how low they have to go just for shilling NFT's 1 Share this post Link to post
lokbustam257 Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) Using someone's Twitter account that's already death to promote NFT shit? Wow this goes on my "Top 10 pathetic shit ever" Also I think this image sums the tweet quite well Spoiler Edited December 15, 2021 by lokbustam257 2 Share this post Link to post
Jello Posted December 15, 2021 NFT's are ways to launder money, or ways to screw simpletons out of money. They have no inherit value, they are a license to something that is already in the public domain. It's selling something with no intrinsic value to someone else. "Oh, but I have the original date on this file!". It's bullshit, it is obviously a way to exchange money without exchanging physical goods; or to bilk idiots out of money. Either way, it's a scam. 2 Share this post Link to post
TenenteZashu Posted December 15, 2021 And of course it's NFT's, people this day don't have a single shred of respect 1 Share this post Link to post
Biodegradable Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) The saddest part about all this is I'm not surprised it happened. During the last two years of his life, Stan Lee was being taken advantage of by a sketchy business partner named Keya Morgan, who was planning to gain control of Lee's name, likeness and all manner of things. He manipulated Lee into making phony testimonial videos, signing all sorts of documents and stole funds, artwork and even Lee's blood! The worst part is he's not the only nasty character who was taking advantage of Lee's advanced age during this time. I know a fair amount about it because of a video I'm working on for GamerFromMars that covers this story in greater detail. I can always link it once the video is available for those of you who want to know more about that or just keep an eye on Gamer's YouTube channel. As for who's behind the NFT gimmick, I'm willing to bet his daughter played a role in it as she is the sole heir of his estate now. Right up until his death, she had treated her father like he was a walking-talking ATM her entire life, having never had a real income of her own, and is a very shady character who physically attacked him when he was alive. She's also gullible enough to get mixed up with other nasty cretins similar to Morgan. There has been all manner of vultures circling around Lee and his legacy ever since his wife died and he was left in the care of his crazy daughter and con-artists looking for an easy target. Edited December 15, 2021 by Biodegradable 6 Share this post Link to post
Jello Posted December 15, 2021 19 minutes ago, Biodegradable said: The saddest part about all this is I'm not surprised it happened. During the last two years of his life, Stan Lee was being taken advantage of by a sketchy business partner named Keya Morgan, who was planning to gain control of Lee's name, likeness and all manner of things. He manipulated Lee into making phony testimonial videos, signing all sorts of documents and stole funds, artwork and even Lee's blood! The worst part is he's not the only nasty character who was taking advantage of Lee's advanced age during this time. I know a fair amount about it because of a video I'm working on for GamerFromMars that covers this story in greater detail. I can always link it once the video is available for those of you who want to know more about that or just keep an eye on Gamer's YouTube channel. As for who's behind the NFT gimmick, I'm willing to bet his daughter played a role in it as she is the sole heir of his estate now. Right up until his death, she had treated her father like he was a walking-talking ATM her entire life, having never had a real income of her own, and is a very shady character who physically attacked him when he was alive. She's also gullible enough to get mixed up with other nasty cretins similar to Morgan. There has been all manner of vultures circling around Lee and his legacy ever since his wife died and he was left in the care of his crazy daughter and con-artists looking for an easy target. As I've said, I don't really have a dog in this hunt. But this is really sad to hear. He had a wonderful legacy, and created so many characters that the world has enjoyed for decades. And he always seemed to have such a giving, and nurturing predisposition; to hear him being taken advantage of in his last years is heartbreaking. He was probably just too nice and trusting for his own good. I hope it doesn't go any further. Even though I never got into comics, I know the characters. Almost everyone on Earth knows them. He made them for every child so they could dream, and imagine, and have fantastic adventures. I have a lot of respect for the man; every time I saw him do an interview he seemed just so happy to be alive. And so happy to be creating things for other people. To see a legacy like that tarnished by crass commercialism is really depressing. 2 Share this post Link to post
[McD] James Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, Wadmodder Shalton said: In fact, Twitter should ban all NFT's on their platform to increase the security of both it's users, and famous celebrities. They're going the opposite route. Soon, they'll implement a feature that authenticates a user's NFT profile picture to show everyone that they "own it". Edited December 15, 2021 by [McD]James 2 Share this post Link to post
Wadmodder Shalton Posted December 15, 2021 NFT's are the new security threat to social media since BitCoin and Ransomware. 1 Share this post Link to post
magicsofa Posted December 15, 2021 I mean I think it's necessary to point out that this kind of behavior isn't inherent to NFTs. People don't need an NFT blockchain in order to scrape money off of someone else's legacy. Shouldn't the practice of co-opting someone's work without their permission be under the bullseye? 3 Share this post Link to post
TheFocus Posted December 15, 2021 god,NFT's and crypto used to be an interesting concept,but that's totally over now. 0 Share this post Link to post
The BMFG Posted December 15, 2021 their doing this shit with bob ross now btw 0 Share this post Link to post
Rudolph Posted December 15, 2021 I read that even STALKER 2 is getting NFTs. What the fuck. 1 Share this post Link to post
GratefulDeadInside Posted December 15, 2021 18 hours ago, Wadmodder Shalton said: In fact, Twitter should ban all NFT's on their platform to increase the security of both it's users, and famous celebrities. They won't. And I also fear that they'll be going in the direction of support for them. Discord already is. 1 Share this post Link to post
[McD] James Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, The BMFG said: their doing this shit with bob ross now btw Bob Ross INC is run by some truly evil people who did everything in their power to screw Bob Ross and his family over, and sadly, they largely succeeded. The Netflix documentary about the company is well worth watching, but it's also incredibly heartbreaking. They put that man and his family through hell and worked tirelessly to take everything away from him and his family. I really cannot think of a single company I hate more than Bob Ross INC. Edited December 15, 2021 by [McD]James 2 Share this post Link to post
kwc Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, magicsofa said: I mean I think it's necessary to point out that this kind of behavior isn't inherent to NFTs. People don't need an NFT blockchain in order to scrape money off of someone else's legacy. Shouldn't the practice of co-opting someone's work without their permission be under the bullseye? This is a fair point, it seems like there are multiple angles converging in this thread. The key example, and reason for the thread, being the process of exploiting the memory of a well-loved and well-meaning public figure, and the invasive and disruptive nature in which NFTs/crypto are being introduced into public consciousness. Unfortunately, this example of Stan Lee's legacy being abused is a prime and emotionally charged example of the latter, which is a broader issue. NFTs seem to stand opposed to everything that I understood the spirit of the internet to be: the freedom/democratization of information and near-infinite nature of media-sharing, which is now being (symbolically) appropriated by speculative interests. I'm sure some big tech-heads who understand this stuff better than me could calm me down, but this whole blockchain/nft/crypto thing concerns me regarding it's potential for even more restrictive uses like DRM or SOPA-tier levels of control. 3 Share this post Link to post
Zulk RS Posted December 15, 2021 This whole thing makes my brain hurt. Also I'm still confused about what the heck the point of NFT is. 0 Share this post Link to post
SleepyVelvet Posted December 15, 2021 A collage of interesting existential topics at display here, ideed: W.r.t. estate ethics, it begs the question: Would the cultural icons in question here be okay with stuff this in the first place. I'll note that informed consent, free will, etc are vital anchoring concepts, but they don't "truly" exist as far as higher order terms go (if you wanna get weird about it; and why lines in the sand are sometimes drawn). And even outside of estate ethics and into general public: there's clearly existential creep factor* putting a strain on certain people (poor Rudolph...). This goes for any other topic - One person's degeneracy is another person's fun/intrigue/sustainability. We all have limited bandwidth individually and trip over eachother, but as far as a species, variety is better (heuristically)... Meanwhile, we're hurling around a black-hole on a wet blue rock. But at the same time on that rock, you can push a button on your phone that makes a pizza show up at your door. It's all an interesting interplay. *even this post is also existentially weird, I don't like rocking the boat and making people stare at their hands in existential dread (@mods, feel free to snip) ... Some thought salad on blockchain stuff (or just NFT's in particular): -I appreciate "NFT critical" but I hope that doesn't become "Anti-NFT cult" carried by a bubble of its own inertia. -The irony about marbling NFT's into a platform is that it might damage (or shuffle around) the platform's intrinsic value to certain people, opening a demand vacuum elsewhere. -While I suppose you can launder money through NFT's, every other god-damn thing exists. For example, the US literally loans/credits dollars (you know, that other currency...) at 0% interest rate to central banks who loans/credits those dollars back to the US-spending-budget and hedge-funds for flipping various gimmicks (ironically which might include NFT's too, lol). ... Fun idea: I kinda wanna make a Doom demo bounty board wrapper. A fun meta-economy game around doom playing, like the Hat-and-Item trade in Team Fortress 2. It'll be called "Doomcoin" (actually that sounds creepy) "ShockblastTM". -"How much do you want for that UV-Tornado-clockwise run of The Chasm?" "Uh, I dunno. I'll give you four shockblasts for it." I need to get out of Everything Else before I turn into either nnnvork, some sort of Thanos catgirl (NiceEvilVet), or turn into InfinityOZ That other thread, "Am I going insane?" hits home. Though I've always been insane :) 0 Share this post Link to post
Doomkid Posted December 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, NoisyVelvet said: I need to get out of Everything Else before I turn into nnnvork This post has roughly 2.1% "nnnvork" (lol) energy, you'll be fine 2 Share this post Link to post
Biodegradable Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) Since this topic is broadening over to the discussion of NFT and Crypto stuff in general, this video Johnny Harris made today on the subject feels relevant to share. It addresses both the current garbage and also the potential good of the technology, as well as the major talking points from both sides of the Crypto-Coin (hehehehehehe). It's probably the best video about the subject right now that addresses the debate head-on without trying to sway you to either side. It's just a good, thorough exploration of the subject. 2 Share this post Link to post