Gherkin Posted August 12, 2003 get your lazy jobless asses in here: DWANGO5 MAP01 TOURNAMENT Sunday, August 17, 2003 8:00 PM GMT (GMT clock can be found on the site as well as tournament details) http://www.xodemultimedia.com/tourney_details.php?t=13 Make sure you are familiar with Doom Connector and please read the tournament guidelines: http://www.xodemultimedia.com/tourney_guide.php 0 Share this post Link to post
Naked Snake Posted August 12, 2003 Dwango5 Map01 is overplayed and overrated. PLAY BETTER DM WADS, JERKS! 0 Share this post Link to post
NiGHTMARE Posted August 12, 2003 Is there really any point in a dwango 5 map01 tournament, seeing as that map is already played virtually 24 hours a day, 365 days a year anyway? 0 Share this post Link to post
Rellik Posted August 12, 2003 That's actually a great reason to do it. Once. Sometimes you gotta go with the flow a little bit. I like the way even the mention of the "D" word incurrs all kinds of hostility. Couldn't happen to a shittier bunch of maps. :-) 0 Share this post Link to post
Gherkin Posted August 12, 2003 Rellik stated my point, heh :) I dont like the dwango5 addiction around here either. But if there are people that like it, why not do a tournament with it for once? I do other tournaments too, sign up for those if you prefer those. 0 Share this post Link to post
DevastatioN Posted August 12, 2003 There are a few maps that the community tends to like, mostly D5M1 and Map1... But thats because they're overall great Tournament maps :) Gherkin: Btw, id love to enter as usual, but ill be at a LAN with a bunch of folks like Ocelot and Dominus and shit, u couldn't have picked a worser week to do it :( 0 Share this post Link to post
Gherkin Posted August 12, 2003 Dont you have an internet connection there? 0 Share this post Link to post
DevastatioN Posted August 12, 2003 it'll be 56k for one, and 2, I wont be playing ZDaemon if im at a LAN :S 0 Share this post Link to post
Cadman Posted August 13, 2003 Those maps suck wind man! They are so overplayed that people can do it with their eyes closed. They are only "great tournament maps" because players decided to make them that by playing them exclusively! A great deathmatcher can play any map and hand you your arse in a barrel! Oh where have all the Doomgods gone? You want a great tournament? Then try some variety in your maps, I used to run tournaments on the local BBS's and it worked very well, the main thing is that the tournament director would announce the maps to be used in the tournament the day before and they were not maps that people played all the time! *Best 2 out of 3 *Each match is a different map *First to reach 30 frags wins the map *No time Limit *Maps used had to have all weapons available. (BFG counts) I had a criteria for choosing maps and it was this... *Have a wide open map with few obstructions *Have a very tight map, with confined spaces *Then find a map that balances between the other 2 maps. The reason? I've played players that can literally embarrass you in one map and then you destroy them in another style map, the 3rd map was the balance between the two. Just my input, which is probably moot anyway. Cadman - Member TeamTNT 1 Share this post Link to post
Chopkinsca Posted August 13, 2003 I think a tournament should have maps that none of the players have played. then the actuall best doomer would be the winner, not just the person who knows the map the best. I don't even like dwango5 map01, just lame running around shooting.. there isn't even a normal shotgun.. 0 Share this post Link to post
NiGHTMARE Posted August 13, 2003 Someone should make a virus or something that specifically targets and deletes Dwango 5... 0 Share this post Link to post
Rellik Posted August 13, 2003 I wonder how many people would complain if I reviewed DWango5 on Discharge and cut it to peices. :p That sounds like fun. 0 Share this post Link to post
DevastatioN Posted August 13, 2003 um... there are quite a few DooMGoDs still around btw, about 5 anyway, which is about what the old days had around at one time. So, I assure u there are still DooMGoDs around, they just dont play ports at all. 0 Share this post Link to post
Draconio Posted August 13, 2003 I'm not too fond of Dwango5 myself, but I'm willing to play it if I have to. Dwango5 vs. real people is usually still better than a map of my choice vs. the mentally deficiant ZCajun bot, the mechanically accurate and deadly DoomBot, or the Legacy-based AC Bot. 0 Share this post Link to post
DevastatioN Posted August 13, 2003 Bots tend to be beaten very easily :) 0 Share this post Link to post
NiGHTMARE Posted August 13, 2003 Draconio said:the mentally deficiant ZCajun bot, the mechanically accurate and deadly DoomBot, or the Legacy-based AC Bot. What about the Skulltag bots? 0 Share this post Link to post
Draconio Posted August 13, 2003 NiGHTMARE said:What about the Skulltag bots? If I recall correctly, the version of Skulltag that had bots also had a weird bug that would sometimes screw the textures all up. And then the new version removed the bots. 0 Share this post Link to post
DevastatioN Posted August 14, 2003 And... so shall the errors!!!! hahaha 0 Share this post Link to post
Carnevil Posted August 14, 2003 DevastatioN said:And... so shall the errors!!!! hahaha No program is without bugs. 0 Share this post Link to post
Draconio Posted August 14, 2003 Carnevil said:They shall return! ... in v0.96b! Will the Skulltag bots be (or are they already) customizable, somewhat like the ZCajun is? 0 Share this post Link to post
fodders Posted August 14, 2003 Be supportive, Carn has dedicated a lot of time to a wonderful project. 0 Share this post Link to post
Carnevil Posted August 15, 2003 Thanks fodders! Anyway, yes, I plan for people to be able to make their own customizeable bots. There's a chance I will also let you script your own AI for each bot, but I'm still not sure about that. 0 Share this post Link to post
Gherkin Posted August 15, 2003 Be supportiveI wish doomworld was, but thats offtopic. This all is. You guys gonna join the tournament or sit here all day? Cmon people, show us your dwango5 skillz0r 1337ness and win this tournament! 0 Share this post Link to post
Biffy Posted August 15, 2003 Tryin' to find you some good competition, I messaged friend TraciLords about the tournament. He loves Dwango5,1 and is pretty good. 0 Share this post Link to post
Jello Posted August 26, 2003 Meh, I pwnd all the skulltag bots whenever I played them. On topic however, I've always found the dwango maps to be a bit boring. Mainly I just use the regular doom2.wad for deathmatch maps, just because no one ever uses the new deathmatch maps that are released. It's either dwango or doom2.wad, and since I find deathmatching on the original levels alot funner than dwango I use it. I would love to see servers using fresh new levels, but people are comfortable with what they're familiar with. Hence I doubt that you're gonna see much variety. 0 Share this post Link to post
Carnevil Posted August 26, 2003 Jello said:Meh, I pwnd all the skulltag bots whenever I played themMeh, you'll get harder bots in v0.96 buddy :) 0 Share this post Link to post
Zakath Posted August 26, 2003 Carnevil said:Meh, you'll get harder bots in v0.96 buddy :) And the key words are in BOLD: We want Smarter, not Harder! 0 Share this post Link to post