BattleCat Posted February 27, 2004 I picked up a copy of the master levels a couple of years ago for $1.2 because it had a neat poster in it. I've never bothered trying the wads that game with it, so I'm wondering if i should get the cd, dust it off, and kill some stuff (ie. are the wads any good ?) ... 0 Share this post Link to post
Grazza Posted February 27, 2004 They're OK. Some are a bit mediocre (though not bad), and others are pretty good (or very good). They were made by some of the best mappers from the community at the time (1995). Some of these guys were TeamTNT or Team Eternal members, and some went on to get jobs in the gaming industry. Note that the Master Levels (20 wads specially made for that product) should not be confused with "Maximum Doom", which is also on the CD - that is a ramshackle shovelware collection of random wads from the web (about 2000 of them), often with important files missing. 0 Share this post Link to post
Torn Posted February 27, 2004 Most of the levels on the cd is fine, except tim willits. They are just pieces of garbage shit. 0 Share this post Link to post
Torn Posted February 27, 2004 Job said:Torn is the anti-Tim. Uhm, no. But his doom levels wasn't anything to be proud of. The only one of his I really like is e4m9. The rest of them is pure garbage, imo. 0 Share this post Link to post
Grazza Posted February 27, 2004 I've just played Willits's "Master Levels" (Attack.wad and Canyon.wad) again. I think they're certainly below the level of most of the other ones. Attack.wad is very forgettable, though Canyon.wad isn't too bad IMO - indeed I remember quite enjoying it when I first played it. The architecture is a bit random, but there are some fun areas. 0 Share this post Link to post
Job Posted February 27, 2004 Attack and Canonyon are some of the levels I remember best off of the PSX Final Doom. 0 Share this post Link to post
Stealthy Ivan Posted February 27, 2004 Back when master levels came out I sat there and played through the whole thing during summer break. I even played all the levels in the maximum directory, and boy was that a pain. Lots of thoes levels are one big room stuffed full of guys ect, you can imagine how great it was. :\ But there was the choice few that made it all worth while...! Oh, it came with a cool poster too! (which hangs on my wall to this day) 0 Share this post Link to post
999cop Posted February 28, 2004 Didn't Willits make most levels of E4? Well, if so, I think they are pretty good enough that a lot of people put E4 second in their favorite Doom episode list. 0 Share this post Link to post
Vegeta Posted February 28, 2004 Master Levels are far better than the maps of DOOM 2 IMO. 0 Share this post Link to post
toxicfluff Posted March 8, 2004 Catwalk I found to be really memorable. Purely for the catwalk segment, where the resolution was so low you couldn't see the enemies in the distance properly and just had to run across the 'walk, with hails of fireballs streaming past you at either side. 0 Share this post Link to post
Draconio Posted March 8, 2004 I have the master levels but I don't think I ever played through them all. As I recall, they're not bad. Probably better than what you would get if you took a random pick of 20 levels off the archive. 0 Share this post Link to post
Grimm Posted March 8, 2004 I actually played through all of the Maximum Doom 1 levels. One day I'll do all of Doom 2. One day. There were a couple of really good ones that aren't in the archives. E1M1SAS, for one. 0 Share this post Link to post
NiGHTMARE Posted March 8, 2004 John Anderson's Master Levels seriously own all the others. 0 Share this post Link to post
Torn Posted March 9, 2004 999cop said:Didn't Willits make most levels of E4? Well, if so, I think they are pretty good enough that a lot of people put E4 second in their favorite Doom episode list. Uhm, he only did e4m5 and e4m9, so no. And iirc his wife did the basic design of e4m5. 0 Share this post Link to post
NiGHTMARE Posted March 9, 2004 Tim Willits, John Romero, American McGee and Shawn Green all did two levels each, whilst John Anderson did one. Willits' wife (Theresa Chasar) did indeed co-author E4M5 ;). 0 Share this post Link to post