Siggi Posted April 15, 2007 What do you think of crosshairs? Is it there because you can't aim without it? Is it there because you couldn't be arsed whether it is there or not? Do you turn your crosshair off because it's of little use to you? Discuss. PS: Think all FPS games, not just Doom this is in EE for a reason :P 0 Share this post Link to post
Coopersville Posted April 15, 2007 I general, I need a crosshair, but there are some games whose gameplay works in a way where I don't always require it, namely Jedi Knight, and Gears of War. 0 Share this post Link to post
Grazza Posted April 15, 2007 Can't give any sort of blanket response to this. In some games it is relevant, and in others it isn't. In fact this consideration isn't restricted to games. My camera will display a "crosshair" in some modes (to show what it is basing its settings upon), but not in others, where it would just be misleading. 0 Share this post Link to post
Bucket Posted April 16, 2007 I use the crosshair sometimes, but for the most part I play simulation-type FPSs and I don't feel they're appropriate. Ironsights are good enough. 0 Share this post Link to post
Captain Red Posted April 16, 2007 Yup. Even in doom. Fuck that "classic feel" they're goddamn useful things to have. P.S. I hate counterstrike lying whore of a crosshair. 0 Share this post Link to post
GGG Posted April 16, 2007 For most modern fps games, I can't see why not. It makes it easier for the game to be played, thus less irritation. For a stealth or "police = you" fps game, I'd prefer a "hold the barrel of the gun at eye level and use the gun's built-in sight" method. For team-based deathmatch games, I'd like it so a player's crosshair is visible to everyone. That way, it'd be more realistic. In reality, crosshairs for handheld weapons give away your presence. 0 Share this post Link to post
DeumReaper Posted April 16, 2007 I prefer having a crosshair, especially when sniping, but in games where the gun is centered (wolf3d, doom, heretic, etc.) i don't mind the absence of one. 0 Share this post Link to post
Dr. Zin Posted April 16, 2007 GGG said:In reality, crosshairs for handheld weapons give away your presence. What? 0 Share this post Link to post
GGG Posted April 16, 2007 Bank said:He's probably referring to laser sights. Correct. 0 Share this post Link to post
Dr. Zin Posted April 16, 2007 Well there are also scopes and collimating sites that superimpose a crosshair without projecting it on the target. 0 Share this post Link to post
GGG Posted April 16, 2007 Dr. Zin said:Well there are also scopes and collimating sites that superimpose a crosshair without projecting it on the target. Well, I figured those were similar enough to gun mounted sights, seeing as you'd have to hold the sight/scope to your eye or at eye level. 0 Share this post Link to post
Bank Posted April 16, 2007 Dr. Zin said:Well there are also scopes and collimating sites that superimpose a crosshair without projecting it on the target. But the idea of a game crosshair is that regardless of where you hold your gun, the correct crosshair appears. Laser sights have the advantage of not requiring you to bring the gun up to your eye to line up sights, but, a red dot appearing on someone's forehead isn't particularly inconspicuous either. 0 Share this post Link to post
Dr. Zin Posted April 16, 2007 Bank said:But the idea of a game crosshair is that regardless of where you hold your gun, the correct crosshair appears. Laser sights have the advantage of not requiring you to bring the gun up to your eye to line up sights, They don't require you to, but for any sort of practical accuracy the gun needs to be in a properly supported hold, which coincidentally brings a sight to the center of focus. If games wanted to be really realistic with laser sights they would have them bouncing around all over the place, rather than sitting perfectly still in one spot. 0 Share this post Link to post
Inferno Posted April 16, 2007 GGG said:I'd like it so a player's crosshair is visible to everyone. That way, it'd be more realistic. In reality, crosshairs for handheld weapons give away your presence. Agreed. 0 Share this post Link to post
exp(x) Posted April 16, 2007 Chrosshairs are the shit. Except in Doom. 0 Share this post Link to post
Regen Posted April 16, 2007 The only games i can think of off hand that i have used it for would be quake/quake2/quakeIII arena/doom3/quake4 and half life 2 (probably others) and it is a necessary component to my playing ability i would have to say. any game that requires quick lightning fast reflex's where your given an instantaneous range of target is beneficial. 0 Share this post Link to post
kristus Posted April 16, 2007 I've been using them for the longest time, even in Doom. But lately I've started to question their existance. If the weapon is supposed to be a marksman weapon or have a laser sight, they usually do. So why do you got a crosshair for every weapon in your arsenal.. even fists and whatever melee weapon you got. I think that games like Doom3 for instance, would be more fun w/o the crosshair. So, you could really say that the crosshair is a filthy cheat in any game. I still wouldn't play any multiplayer game w/o them though. It'd just be stupid to make it harder than necessary on yourself, since everyone else is most likely using them. There are games that doesn't have any crosshair for some of the weapons though. Like RTCW IIRC. 0 Share this post Link to post
Manc Posted April 16, 2007 I need to be able to pinpoint my chainsaw blade insertion or my mits for precise ripping and the subsequent tearing. 0 Share this post Link to post
pritch Posted April 16, 2007 It really does depend on the game. Old game like doom with no headshots, no way. Something like hl2 or css, absolutely can't do without it for precision. 0 Share this post Link to post
Johnatone Posted April 17, 2007 I fail it as it is with the crosshair, although I could probably still play a few oldschool games without one. 0 Share this post Link to post
Doom_master1122 Posted April 20, 2007 Crosshairs are pretty useful, although i could really care less if they are there or not. 0 Share this post Link to post
Maes Posted April 20, 2007 Some FPS are just unplayable without crosshairs, and in particular any game using side-placed weapons and no form of autoaim. Vanilla Doom doesn't need them, unless you play with all kind of autoaim completely or with non-centered weapon mods. I won't vote because there is no "depends on the game" option. 0 Share this post Link to post
Kirby Posted April 20, 2007 Really doesn't matter too much to me. If it's there, sure I'll use it. If it's not, I won't be losing sleep over it 0 Share this post Link to post
Csonicgo Posted April 20, 2007 Mancubus II said:I need to be able to pinpoint my chainsaw blade insertion or my mits for precise ripping and the subsequent tearing. I didn't know you had to be precise to be a man-and-a-half. :) 0 Share this post Link to post