The origins of Massmouth?

This is something that I have been wondering about for some time now. Where does the character Massmouth come from? I don't mean which planet or anything. I mean who invented him and what did he originally feature in?

Originally, I thought it was all down to Cyb. However, over the years, I've found a few references to Massmouth in a number of apparently unrelated, or loosely related, places (sometimes nothing to do with Doom at all) and with Massmouth stuff by different authors.

So, what's the skinny?

According to The Doom wiki, "The design of Massmouth comes from a Quake 2 player model created by Stephen "Neuralstasis" Monteith."

The Planet Quake link on that page is bad, here's an updated one.

Although I am not sure, I always thought the original Massmouth came from this model by Stephen Monteith. I found several other models which are used as sprites in Massmouth 2 as well, such as this and this. I remember more..but the site seems to be a little borked at the moment.

Of course you may have already seen all of that =P.

EDIT: Masterofdeath beat me =o.

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EarthQuake said:

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always been where I expected it to be from too.

I was aware of the quake model, but wasn't sure if it came before or after the Doom mod.

I'd also considered the Yorp as a possible source of inspiration/an ancestor, but found nothing to say for definite whether it was a genuine link or merely a coincidental look alike.

I doubt it's coincidental, except perhaps in being subconsciously inspired. The main difference is that Massmouth has arms, but it should need them to wield a weapon.

http://leileilol.mancubus.net/models/quake2/m/q2mdl-massm.zip

7-11-1999 pretty damn well predates the wad series.

And the text file probably gives as much of a clue to Massmouth's origin as we are likely to get

This character was originally full character made by me in Lightwave 3d 5.6