Ninjalah Posted August 11, 2009 Im having some problems with a door. Here are some pics. http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t304/ninjalah/DoomEditing/3dDoor.jpg http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t304/ninjalah/DoomEditing/Doom3.jpg http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t304/ninjalah/DoomEditing/Door1.jpg http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t304/ninjalah/DoomEditing/Door2.jpg http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t304/ninjalah/DoomEditing/Door4.jpg I have no idea why the door won't work. Help plox. 0 Share this post Link to post
gggmork Posted August 11, 2009 Probably because the 2 trapezoids have too short of ceilings. Say if the door floor and ceiling both = 0.. the door will open to 4 pixels (or 8 or something) below the next lowest adjacent ceiling. If door ceiling = 0, make trapezoid floor + ceiling = 64 or something higher like that. 0 Share this post Link to post
Ninjalah Posted August 11, 2009 Ahh I see now. That explains alot hah. Thanks man. 0 Share this post Link to post
Mithral_Demon Posted August 11, 2009 Mainly set the Floor height to Ceiling, but I bet you got that when the person said it, but this is in simpler terms. That does seem interesting on that shot ingame. 0 Share this post Link to post
Ninjalah Posted August 11, 2009 What seems interesting? The design or the problem itself? 0 Share this post Link to post
Mithral_Demon Posted August 11, 2009 The design. Why would a problem be interesting? It's common, it's happened to mapper in the beginning, but it's easy to over come. My method for the door issue is have the Low-Unpeg on the sides but itself isn't a sector, in fact more of the emptiness of the map and not connected, then do everything else that is well known by lower door sector.... *blah blah, same old crap..* Your method is good but you have to have the unpeg side sectors equivalent to the ceiling of the door stopping point. 0 Share this post Link to post
Ninjalah Posted August 12, 2009 Ha thanks. I can see how that problem would be common though. This wad I'm making is going to be a progression wad, showing the differences in experience over the 4 maps (so far). 0 Share this post Link to post
40oz Posted August 12, 2009 You can just delete the trapezoid sectors, you can't see under or over them so the sector serves no purpose of being there. It's just two additional planes that don't need to be there. 0 Share this post Link to post
Ninjalah Posted August 12, 2009 I cant do that Mr. Rancid. They're there for design purposes, showing the two blue banners. See the 3d pic. 0 Share this post Link to post
ArmouredBlood Posted August 12, 2009 Ninjalah said:I cant do that Mr. Rancid. They're there for design purposes, showing the two blue banners. See the 3d pic. instead of using lower or upper textures just use middle textures there ... if the height is zeroed it might as well be a 1-sided linedef. Just try it and if you don't like it exit without saving >.< 0 Share this post Link to post
GreyGhost Posted August 12, 2009 Ninjalah said:I cant do that Mr. Rancid. They're there for design purposes, showing the two blue banners. See the 3d pic. I managed to get the door working but didn't like looking through 1-sided linedefs - fixed that by deleting the trapeziod sectors behind the doortracks, which can be done without affecting the banners. <curses MediaFire and their retardedly slow servers!> 0 Share this post Link to post
Ninjalah Posted August 12, 2009 GreyGhost said:I managed to get the door working but didn't like looking through 1-sided linedefs - fixed that by deleting the trapeziod sectors behind the doortracks, which can be done without affecting the banners. <curses MediaFire and their retardedly slow servers!> Why does everyone hate trapezoids? Well, I could see how you could just texture the middle, but when i build maps I usually think in an Architectural sense, which is why i actually built and raised the trapezoid. 0 Share this post Link to post
Nomad Posted August 12, 2009 No one's saying they hate them. We're saying that it's not necessary for the sector to be there. You can still have the linedefs in that shape, just that the sector is unnecessary. Highlight the sector and press delete and you'll see what we mean. 0 Share this post Link to post
ptoing Posted August 12, 2009 ^ What he said and having redundant architechture which no one can even see = not good. 0 Share this post Link to post
printz Posted August 12, 2009 There's another problem. THAT door has to be at most as tall as 96. If it's more, then it won't tile properly unless using Boom (not tested with latest ZDoom or GZDoom, but last time I tried, it looked bad -- and definitely not going to work in Doom.Exe or Chocolate Doom!) 0 Share this post Link to post
Ninjalah Posted August 13, 2009 printz said:There's another problem. THAT door has to be at most as tall as 96. If it's more, then it won't tile properly unless using Boom (not tested with latest ZDoom or GZDoom, but last time I tried, it looked bad -- and definitely not going to work in Doom.Exe or Chocolate Doom!) Oh hell thanks for reminding me, it was supposed to be another texture. I'm just realizing how stupid it looks. 0 Share this post Link to post
NaturalTvventy Posted August 13, 2009 Here's how you can do the door and the banner without having to have the door ends against a sector. http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/emilharold/doorhelp-1.jpg hope that helps. 0 Share this post Link to post
EarthQuake Posted August 13, 2009 Why are the trapezoid-shaped sectors even necessary? I could understand if you were going for some texture-layering effect, but that's not what I'm seeing here, as the trapezoid sectors are under the overhang along with the door's sector. 0 Share this post Link to post
NaturalTvventy Posted August 13, 2009 Yea I just realized that too. They aren't needed at all. Delete! 0 Share this post Link to post
Ninjalah Posted August 15, 2009 Hey hey, I'm new to this, so i thought i would make it so that there a banners bordering the door. Didnt know any other way of doing it then building it up then slapping textures on it. Sue me. 0 Share this post Link to post
DuckReconMajor Posted August 15, 2009 You might have had a good reason. No need to get defensive. 0 Share this post Link to post