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BP admits they can't stop Gulf oil spill until August (earliest).

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EDIT: Hotlinking blocked so the link won't work, but you can easily find the story here: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=strict&rlz=1C1GGGE_enCA355CA355&q=gulf+oil+spill&aq=f&aqi=g-c2g-sx1g-msx5&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= (The NYDailyNews link)

EDIT x2: http://www.wlox.com/Global/story.asp?S=12569140 (Another article, direct link.)

Forgot to make this thread a few days ago, but BP admits they can't stop the Gulf oil spill until August at the earliest. The article also claims that every 10 days, about one Exxon Valdez disaster worth of oil is spilled into the ocean. This is getting a little fucking ridiculous.

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Yeah, I saw Obama calling out BP on the fact that they just spent $50 million on TV advertising to make themselves look good through this. I totally knew they were going to fucking pull that shit, too. Sometimes Obama annoys me, but it's times like this that make me remember why I voted for him.

Oh yeah, and I saw a projection that said that by the end of summer, the oil will be spreading into the Atlantic, all up and down the East Coast at the very least. I think this is going to be a wake-up call to America and hopefully the world that environmentalism isn't just hippie bullshit, and that rampant disregard for the environment is going to kill us (or more importantly to them, kill them financially). I just hope this isn't going to become a global problem that ruins us for good.

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Actually Dan if you watch Fox News you'd know that government regulation is responsible for the spill, government red tape is responsible for the problems in stopping it, and government ineptitude is why we have oil all over the ocean. That, and drill, baby, drill.

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Yeah at best this is something the fundies will use to say we should chop down all the trees in Alaska and use the bear furs to make fabulous wraps for rich women. We can eat bald eagle eggs for breakfast and grind up the salmon to use as feed for KFC chicken farms. Ecosystems be damned, there's money to make up there!

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John Smith said:

Actually Dan if you watch Fox News...

Fox News is one of the most unreliable news sources in my opinion. A bunch of right wing extremists like Glen Beck and Bill O'Reilly are NOT my choice in news broadcasting.

Also, the Bush Administration allowed for the second emergency valve to not be installed in order to be more cost efficient back when the rig was built, it is partially the past administrations fault as well.

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AveryMaurice said:

Fox News is one of the most unreliable news sources in my opinion. A bunch of right wing extremists like Glen Beck and Bill O'Reilly are NOT my choice in news broadcasting.

Spoiler

He's not exactly being serious

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In reality(the opposite of Fox News) government regulations are what has prevented stuff like this from happening in the past. BP actually has a list of safety violations hundreds of times longer than other oil companies, but I guess there's no one to really enforce any of the laws or they just get paid off.

I really wish their stock would plummet, but at this point it doesn't look like it's going to happen. All the stock holders that didn't sell right away are likely hoping it'll recover, which it probably will. You can bet any public inquiry will yield absolutely nothing and that no blame will be put on anyone(well anyone with any money). BP's public image will never recover though no matter how much they spend on commercials, but it's not like an oil company cares about public image.

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As a person who lives in the affected states and sometimes in the gulf region, I and many others are VERY, very pissed off at BP. 700+ Safety violations compared to Exxon's 1?

A lot of us gathered and had a BP card-cutting ceremony. Good Riddance, BP. Seriously. Once the Gulf stream carries the oil to the UK, I hope BP can explain all of it: the plumes of oil they deny, the tarballs, and the stench, especially the one from Wayward. AND ESPECIALLY ABOUT USING THAT DAMNED BANNED DISPERSANT.

You're killing business, BP. You're killing Tourism, BP. You're killing our way of life, BP.

Don't support this company. Don't buy from them, don't mention their names, they are the Voldemort of oil companies.

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Scet said:

I really wish their stock would plummet, but at this point it doesn't look like it's going to happen. All the stock holders that didn't sell right away are likely hoping it'll recover, which it probably will.

It has plummeted - the market capitalization has reduced by more than the likely costs of this mess, even in a bad-case scenario. How much would you expect the price to go down? It now looks quite attractively priced on any normal criteria, and so there are naturally buyers (and existing holders topping up). Other oil companies have had disasters, and subsequently recovered to a fair value based on their assets. I'd buy BP shares myself (having avoided them for the last couple of years) if I weren't so damned greedy (i.e. reluctant to buy anything that has little prospect of being a ten-bagger).

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For a huge company, that's pretty dramatic.

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John Smith said:
Actually Dan if you watch Fox News you'd know that government regulation is responsible for the spill, government red tape is responsible for the problems in stopping it, and government ineptitude is why we have oil all over the ocean.

It's all the liberals' fault. They wouldn't let us drill on land so we had to go drill over water!

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Csonicgo said:

You're killing business, BP. You're killing Tourism, BP. You're killing our way of life, BP.

Oh, and that whole nature thing...

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Technician said:

Oh, and that whole nature thing...


Let's not talk about that. Dead dolphins have already washed ashore. Do you want Doomworlders to cry?

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Csonicgo said:

Let's not talk about that. Dead dolphins have already washed ashore. Do you want Doomworlders to cry?

Are you being sarcastic or not?

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Technician said:

Are you being sarcastic or not?



I'm actually pissed off. I'm not showing it on a forum, but seeing all the birds come in with glop on them will make zangief and chuck norris break out in tears.

I got a call from my cousin that there are posters in pensacola with the pictures of the birds soaked with BP's logo on the bottom. Some BP dude keeps ripping them down but they keep coming back up by next morning.

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A large number of gulls and pelicans all the way up here in Canada nest at the Gulf. We don't know what to do. Nothing can be done.

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Technician said:

A large number of gulls and pelicans all the way up here in Canada nest at the Gulf. We don't know what to do. Nothing can be done.


Palin's blaming environmentalists for this. Funny how that is. Apparently the logic is that when tougher regulations are mandated, it causes more risky behavior. This is the logic of a 13-year-old. That's like a criminal killing his target, then blaming the the police because he felt the need to carry a weapon because "they might catch him".

It's clever blame-shift. "You MADE me do it!"

People are letting their politics get in the way of their rationality, or as a subsitute for rationality. It is dangerous, and nutty as fuck to think that Regulations that were written caused this. How far out that oil rig was didn't cause this problem. Cutting corners caused this. Greed caused this. That's pretty cut and dry.

EDIT: BP CEO Hayward has cowered!. Not for the right reasons, of course, but at least this gaffe-machine is quiet for a while.

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I said:
It's all the liberals' fault. They wouldn't let us drill on land so we had to go drill over water!

Sarah Palin said:
Extreme deep water drilling is not the preferred choice to meet our country's energy needs, but your protests and lawsuits and lies about onshore and shallow water drilling have locked up safer areas.

Holy crap! Apparently I can't make up something so utterly stupid that Sarah Palin hasn't said it first...

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CODOR said:

Holy crap! Apparently I can't make up something so utterly stupid that Sarah Palin hasn't said it first...


Heh, I was surprised to see that same reasoning too. You and Sarah must think alike, or have a psychic link. Lucky.

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Makes me wonder how many people are fans of her page just so they can be notified when she posts more stupidity.

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Aliotroph? said:

Makes me wonder how many people are fans of her page just so they can be notified when she posts more stupidity.


I actually go to BBC's Have your say for my daily dose of hurr:

There much more to this story than is being told.
Tar balls turned up in Florida but not from oil spill. The US Coast Guard said tests show the tar balls don't match the oil from the Deepwater Horizon spill.
Conclusion: Origin unknown.
I’m coming to believe that some bad folks are intentionally destabilizing the earth's crust, predisposing (if not actually causing) earthquakes & potentially a shift in the Earth's orbit.
Most of us know that uncontrolled drilling of the earth's crust will cause some problems. These earth’s crust experiments (because "experiments" they are) should be closely monitored by the United Nations...not by the country that will gain.
Why would these bad folks do such a thing as weakening the Earth’s crust?
Too many poor people - Let them die and decrease the surplus population;
For bad folks there's never enough wealth - more, more, MORE!
What a good way to wage war. Bad folk hardly ever dispatch their children.
Why do I call these folk bad folks?
Oil-Well Drilling,
Coal Mining,
Dams & Reservoirs etc.
The earth crust thickness averages about
- 18 miles under the continents, but
- 3 miles under the oceans.
This is where most earthquakes originate”.
The Earth, it's animals (including homo sapiens) are suffering & dying due to bad-folk greed.
The BP oil drilling rig fire & oil spill was originally called an “Incident”. THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION's Response to the BP Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill - is indicative of Government’s humility before the powerful corporate & financial elite that it serves.
Who is Responsible for Gulf spill?
British Petroleum, Halliburton, Trans Ocean...Whoever is next to pass the slick-buck.
And then there’s HAARP!
Please don't forget HAARP - the atmospheric, ionizing bad-folk generated machine to cause earthquakes, droughts, floods, and other killing-damaging weather modification (WMD). Who knows, the BP oil well may have been HAARPed. When Homo Destructus feels overcome by greed, they will do just about anything to speed the process.
DRILLING, MINING, EXTRACTING & BOMBING – bad folks are destroying the Earth’s Crust. As these bad folk weaken the Earth's crust, they are increasing the risk of earthquakes & secondarily volcanic activity. These earthquakes then also have a potential to cause a shift in the Earth's axis.
Bad folk are not homo sapiens; they are homo destructus. Homo destructus knows but doesn't care about Earth’s harmony. Oh how Mother Earth must despise these homo destructus and long for their passing because all things do pass.
The response to the Gulk Oil Spill must
a) stop the leakage but also
b) tell homo sapiens what happened - no spin, no lies. Can we just have the plain truth for once!

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I read the first few sentences and immedietly thought of HAARP.

Those guys are fucking with everything!

Eitherway, shit happens. The oil rig explosion could have been a terrorist attack or some pissed off employee who lost his coffee into the gulf.

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Csonicgo said:

Don't support this company. Don't buy from them, don't mention their names, they are the Voldemort of oil companies.


All oil companies are Voldemorts. I can hardly think of an industry sector that is more corrupt than them. Diamond mining and the military-industrial complex come close, though. I mean, take a look at this, for example. Or remember how Total flirts with the military junta in Burma/Myanmar.

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Some random nutcase on "BBC - Have Your Say" said:
Please don't forget HAARP - the atmospheric, ionizing bad-folk generated machine to cause earthquakes, droughts, floods, and other killing-damaging weather modification (WMD).

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA <starts choking>.

I've been playing around with similar technology (on a much smaller scale) for decades. Does that make me one of the bad-folk?

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GhostlyDeath said:

Eitherway, shit happens. The oil rig explosion could have been a terrorist attack or some pissed off employee who lost his coffee into the gulf.


This "shit" didn't happen in the past 3 years with Exxon, Sunoco or Citgo, BP had 700+ safety violations. You can damn well make good judgement on what happened here.

Nice trolling with "terrorist attack" though. All of these workers were friends so the whole "pissed off employee" story isn't given an ounce of thought.

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This is the worst man-made ecological disaster ever. The dropping of the a-bombs on Japan had less of an environmental impact than this oil spill will, and this spill will be felt 30+ plus years into the future.

A very sad time for ecological, and conservation, movements... :(

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I hate bp so much right now! What's ironic is that the oil spill hasn't been affecting prices of commodities yet. It might make prices soar in 2013 but we'll have to wait and see.

I saw them making their gas prices cheaper at some stations. Although some are still extra expensive. On May 30, AAA said that regular gas costed $2.98/gallon in the Chicago, IL area on average. I was driving home from my cousin's house and saw a bp gas station selling regular for $3.04/gallon.

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Sarah Palin said:
Extreme deep water drilling is not the preferred choice to meet our country's energy needs

Well there's your problem.

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Yeah, it's about time Palin realizes that more offshore drilling isn't a good idea. What surprises me is that she seems to be bought out by the big gasoline companies and does whatever they want.

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