Mods with heavy infighting...

Well, I've played quite a few mods lately and they all, in an interesting coincidence, happened to have large amounts of monsters, of many varieties, that committed infighting. In all cases, it was an awesome sight that went beyond the scope of any monster infighting in regular Doom.

I seem to have developed a fetish (sexual) for monster infighting. Can any of you guys give me examples of other wads, especially with custom monsters, where there is heavy infighting going on.

I've already played the Cheogsh series and Unloved, by the way.

Nuts

Some TAS Pacifist demos features impressive amounts of infighting. Perhaps the most striking is Cameron Prosser's Nightmare Pacifist on HR map22.

One map that I found nice for infighting was hellroom. My UV -fast Pacifist wasn't far off being a Max. In fact, it must be technically feasible to do a Pacifist Max on this map, using the archies' splash damage to rob them of their last scraps of health. But there are many monster-heavy maps that allow a lot of scope for infighting, provided the player has enough room to manoeuvre.

You should look into random spawn mods (like this) as they can allow infighting where previously not possible (i.e big group of imps can suddenly now infight). Combine that with NUTS and see what happens ;o

Alright, I'll take a look at these.

Thanks, guys. It'll be fun, to say the least.

If not for playing the mod, watching a demo is sufficient for infighting observations and... things.

xvertigox said:

allow infighting where previously not possible (i.e big group of imps can suddenly now infight). Combine that with NUTS and see what happens ;o

There's a vastly simpler way that also works with the original game.

Patch File for DeHackEd v3.0

Doom version = 19
Patch format = 6

Misc 0
Monsters Infight = 221

I think you might get a few hours of enjoyment out of newgothic.

Damn...

I tried Nuts.wad and I know I don't have a particularly strong CPU.

Ever been to those ad-heavy porn sites and you're watching a clip? It's so choppy, it goes at like 1 frame per second, skipping 3 seconds of the clip each time. You're pretty much just watching stills that summarize the action, with audio included for the tease. It just ruins the experience, usually.

buttspit said:

ad-heavy porn sites

I think most of us try to avoid those when we come across them.

Good point. Well, my attitude is: If I'm infected, it's my fault (IIIIMF).

Play it with prboom-plus, with the -complevel 9 parameter or turn help_friends off.

Nuts, Sunder and New Gothic suits your point. These 3 wads contains many monsters, most of them tough too, as well as many infighting to cause.

Daiyu_Xiaoxiang said:

Nuts, Sunder and New Gothic suits your point. These 3 wads contains many monsters, most of them tough too, as well as many infighting to cause.

This!

Here is a demo I recorded on New Gothic's MAP13, a level which has 4,283 monsters. I'm almost sure that this is the demo with the most infighting ever.

1ntru said:

I'm almost sure that this is the demo with the most infighting ever.

Unlikely. My Nuts NM Pacifist features more than 4800 monster deaths, all due to infighting, in 52 seconds.

1ntru said:

This!

Here is a demo I recorded on New Gothic's MAP13, a level which has 4,283 monsters. I'm almost sure that this is the demo with the most infighting ever.

Ohh yeahhh!!!!

nuts is overrated, you hardly see any infights actually

sunder / ngmvmt1 / holyhell

holyhell managed to organize more monsters into one humonguous "map" than nuts had in 2 rooms (ggg did a 3 hour long screw-up of it afaik)

i actually have a lot of fun playing holyhell.
it feels like gauntlet.
and, yes, there is/can be a lot of in-fighting in it.

Shameless plug: monster infighting was the point of my map in Community Chest 3 (map28)

RjY said:

Shameless plug: monster infighting was the point of my map in Community Chest 3 (map28)

And it's lovely.

Grazza said:

Unlikely. My Nuts NM Pacifist features more than 4800 monster deaths, all due to infighting, in 52 seconds.

Sigh, I just watched it. There's definitely some crazy shizzle going on, HAHA. Too bad it's impossible to max it.

Also, I tried that Holyhell wad...It's really amazing as the original map has 20,000 monsters. I might try to max it someday, haha.

Ngmvmt1 still looks like the best infighting wad imho though.

1ntru said:

Sigh, I just watched it. There's definitely some crazy shizzle going on, HAHA. Too bad it's impossible to max it.

Use the little dehacked file I posted earlier in this thread - then the cybers will happily kill each other. And be sure to disable emulation of intercepts overflows if you are using -complevel 2.

Long Days, by Eternal. Sort of like a playable version of nuts.wad.

Phmlspd, by Phml, map13 especially. (DSDA probably has a working download link)

Also you can use dehacked to make one or more species of monster friendly if your engine supports MBF's friendly monsters.