nervewar Posted April 9, 2018 I'm curious if any of you have ever made a parked semi truck, or vehicle of any sort using classic vanilla Doom (without using any new zDoom features such as slopes, or sectors above sectors). For my level I'm working on now I'm wanting to include a semi truck, so I would love to see some references of how other people have gone about making one and texturing it in a convincing way. Or if you haven't made one, but know of any WADS that have something like this I could play, I'd love to know so I can check them out... Thanks! 0 Share this post Link to post
bonnie Posted April 9, 2018 do you mean like a drivable one?? if ur talkin about a regular truck, that would be pretty easy to make, since semi trucks don't really have that many slopes, so you'd just need to make and/or import some custom textures for the different parts of the truck, like the tires, the hood, the windshield, etc. i hope my unhelpful words helped you friend 3 Share this post Link to post
nervewar Posted April 9, 2018 Hey thanks for the reply Bonnie. I'm not looking to make it driveable, I just want it stationery/parked as an environmental design element. The main thing I'm looking to see is how the wheels would be achieved through just texturing. Also curious about different ways the windshield/cab could be built and textured on just a flat/90 degree plane... Appreciate it! 32 minutes ago, bonnie said: do you mean like a drivable one?? if ur talkin about a regular truck, that would be pretty easy to make, since semi trucks don't really have that many slopes, so you'd just need to make and/or import some custom textures for the different parts of the truck, like the tires, the hood, the windshield, etc. i hope my unhelpful words helped you friend 1 Share this post Link to post
RjY Posted April 9, 2018 The truck from ev19 uses its own wheel texture TYWHEEL1: Napalm refines it into a jeep and adds a steering wheel made out of EXITDOOR: 25 Share this post Link to post
nervewar Posted April 9, 2018 Awesome, thanks a lot for this! I was worried how trying to incorporate wheels was going to work with a texture. Not sure if I'd be happy using that technique in my own map. Seems to work pretty good on that jeep though. I suppose with some lighting tricks it could potentially look better too... Anyway this definitely gives me something to mull over. Another random question, happened to have ever seen a tank made in a vanilla Doom wad? Thanks so much! 22 minutes ago, RjY said: The truck from ev19 uses its own wheel texture TYWHEEL1: Napalm refines it into a jeep and adds a steering wheel made out of EXITDOOR: 0 Share this post Link to post
RjY Posted April 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, nervewar said: Another random question, happened to have ever seen a tank made in a vanilla Doom wad? TVR! map15, again using a custom texture for the tracks. 11 Share this post Link to post
Grain of Salt Posted April 9, 2018 Here's some cute vehicles from Kama Sutra: Spoiler 11 Share this post Link to post
xvertigox Posted April 9, 2018 At work so I can't take screenshots but Doomsday of UAC had trucks at the start. You should be able to see them in this video - 5 Share this post Link to post
Fonze Posted April 9, 2018 Iirc, for his THT level, Financial Crisis at Enwrong, Dobu got NinjaLiquidator to make a executive's red sports car. Technically the map is in boom format, but I believe that no boom actions were used to make this. I do know it uses texture bleeding to work though, so it is likely closer to a vanilla implementation than might be supposed by the map format. The only thing I gotta note about "vanilla" and any sector art such as sector furniture, cars, toilets, myhouse, etc. is that the more complex you make it the more likely you are to run afoul of vanilla's limits, which is one reason most vanilla cars wind up as basically crates with car-wallpaper plastered on them. Still, I always approve of sector furniture when done well, like those cute Kama Sutra ones :D Kb1 also showed me a school bus in one wad; i forget what wad it was but it was basically of the wallpaper-covered-crate variety. 9 Share this post Link to post
Rosh Fragger Posted April 9, 2018 Images taken from a wad named "Horde_v1.2". It was made a few years ago by Sr69mm-Jc & RantRave. Link: https://www.wad-archive.com/wad/Horde-v1-2 9 Share this post Link to post
42PercentHealth Posted April 9, 2018 One of the Newgothics had a map with some sector trucks in it, but they weren't nearly as good as some of the stuff posted here already. 1 Share this post Link to post
nervewar Posted April 10, 2018 Wow so many cool vehicles here! 4 hours ago, RjY said: TVR! map15, again using a custom texture for the tracks. ^ Niiice, that's pretty sweet. I was wondering how a barrel like that barrel could be achieved, looks like lowering the ceiling all the way is how to do it. 4 hours ago, Grain of Salt said: Here's some cute vehicles from Kama Sutra: Reveal hidden contents ^ Tons of awesome stuff here, I gotta check this Kama Sutra wad out. That helicopter is especially impressive. So cool. 4 hours ago, xvertigox said: At work so I can't take screenshots but Doomsday of UAC had trucks at the start. You should be able to see them in this video - ^ Thanks man! Yeah got a good look at them in that video, appreciate it! 4 hours ago, Fonze said: Iirc, for his THT level, Financial Crisis at Enwrong, Dobu got NinjaLiquidator to make a executive's red sports car. Technically the map is in boom format, but I believe that no boom actions were used to make this. I do know it uses texture bleeding to work though, so it is likely closer to a vanilla implementation than might be supposed by the map format. The only thing I gotta note about "vanilla" and any sector art such as sector furniture, cars, toilets, myhouse, etc. is that the more complex you make it the more likely you are to run afoul of vanilla's limits, which is one reason most vanilla cars wind up as basically crates with car-wallpaper plastered on them. Still, I always approve of sector furniture when done well, like those cute Kama Sutra ones :D Kb1 also showed me a school bus in one wad; i forget what wad it was but it was basically of the wallpaper-covered-crate variety. ^ Ah cool, I was contemplating doing some stairstepping like that for my windshield. Not sure if I'll go that route since it looks a little too "lego" for me and ultimately I want to be somewhat realistic. That's cool to see though. 2 hours ago, Rosh Fragger said: Images taken from a wad named "Horde_v1.2". It was made a few years ago by Sr69mm-Jc & RantRave. Link: https://www.wad-archive.com/wad/Horde-v1-2 ^ This particular technique of relying solely on the textures seems to work pretty well in this instance. Obviously the wheels look kind of weird how they're cut off like that, but with the right texture work I could see this working. 2 hours ago, Memfis said: A Truckers Nightmare! ^ Haha this is probably the most amusing of the bunch. I do like how the cab is actually open creating real negative space for the windshield. Hmmm. Lots of great stuff to reference and be inspired by here, thanks so much everybody! 6 Share this post Link to post
Ledillman Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) Vanilla Sky by Doomknight has some vehicles in the map. I believe they were made with lots of tiny 1 unit sectors, there were no new textures used 28 Share this post Link to post
42PercentHealth Posted April 10, 2018 @Ledillman That's... quite impressive. Especially that second pic. 2 Share this post Link to post
kb1 Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Ledillman said: Vanilla Sky by Doomknight has some vehicles in the map. I believe they were made with lots of tiny 1 unit sectors, there were no new textures used Those are awesome! But, I have to give credit where it is due: Fonze is the GrandMaster of tiny sector/wall "Franken-texturing", where he makes magical textures and flats (even animated ones, and switch/achievement-controlled) that simply cannot be found in the WADs... Beautiful, flawless, picture-perfect, and unfindable... Check out Map 12 and Map 19 of THT: Threnody for plenty of awesome examples. Holy shit! See readable "hint books", and 'Text'-ures - heh! 1 Share this post Link to post
alowe Posted April 10, 2018 13 hours ago, RjY said: The truck from ev19 uses its own wheel texture TYWHEEL1: Napalm refines it into a jeep and adds a steering wheel made out of EXITDOOR: I've played that level. Years ago, but seem to remember you could actually go inside it. 3 Share this post Link to post
alowe Posted April 10, 2018 Here's a crappy pickup I put in one of my levels. Sorry for screen sizes being too large. That's what happens when someone plants a helltree in the middle of the road :D If you'd like to see it ingame, the wad is attached. Example of ZDoom arguments: zdoom -file EXORCISM.WAD +map MAP03 Exorcism.zip 17 Share this post Link to post
Dragonfly Posted April 10, 2018 Oh man this thread's so cute. I love all these sector cars; I'd never use one in my own levels but I think they're awesome all the same! 3 Share this post Link to post
KVELLER Posted April 10, 2018 @alowe Gotta love those fake reflections on the windows. 3 Share this post Link to post
Doomkid Posted April 10, 2018 @mun posted the best one! That wad is quite impressive for it's age 1 Share this post Link to post
CaptainManiac Posted April 10, 2018 He yes i got it in UDMF even without showing slopes 0 Share this post Link to post
Soundblock Posted April 10, 2018 Not Doom, but also sector-art, here's a pick-up (semi in the background) that we put together for Redneck Rampage (map: Junkyard). Note the lower part of the car-side texture matching up to the floor texture. Windshield's sloped and texture resolution is higher, but the car should otherwise be approximately achievable in the vanilla Doom engine. ...did the same thing to lend some 3D'ness to the watery bridge in Eternal Doom map 12's opening courtyard, but I don't have a pic of that handy. 10 Share this post Link to post
Ledillman Posted April 10, 2018 8 hours ago, kb1 said: Those are awesome! But, I have to give credit where it is due: Fonze is the GrandMaster of tiny sector/wall "Franken-texturing", where he makes magical textures and flats (even animated ones, and switch/achievement-controlled) that simply cannot be found in the WADs... Beautiful, flawless, picture-perfect, and unfindable... Check out Map 12 and Map 19 of THT: Threnody for plenty of awesome examples. Holy shit! See readable "hint books", and 'Text'-ures - heh! uhm ok 0 Share this post Link to post
antares031 Posted April 10, 2018 I wonder why I designed the front side, since it's only visible with noclip cheat. 11 Share this post Link to post
nervewar Posted April 10, 2018 Oh man I haven't played Redneck Rampage in forever! This is great, I love what you pointed out about the same ground texture being used on the lower underneith part of the truck, that's a pretty convincing trick I'm going to have to mess with. Thanks! 2 hours ago, Soundblock said: Not Doom, but also sector-art, here's a pick-up (semi in the background) that we put together for Redneck Rampage (map: Junkyard). Note the lower part of the car-side texture matching up to the floor texture. Windshield's sloped and texture resolution is higher, but the car should otherwise be approximately achievable in the vanilla Doom engine. ...did the same thing to lend some 3D'ness to the watery bridge in Eternal Doom map 12's opening courtyard, but I don't have a pic of that handy. 1 Share this post Link to post
Catpho Posted April 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, antares031 said: "pic" I wonder why I designed the front side, since it's only visible with noclip cheat. lol i was gonna post that 1 Share this post Link to post
Havoc Crow Posted April 10, 2018 From "Anime Movie Theater" (E-THEATR.WAD): And from Action Doom: 8 Share this post Link to post