TakenStew22 Posted October 6, 2018 (edited) Like, are they actually official sequels to Doom 2? And are TNT and Plutonia in the same universe? Edited October 7, 2018 by TakenStew22 0 Share this post Link to post
TakenStew22 Posted October 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, riderr3 said: Big Fucking Cannon. 8 Share this post Link to post
Guydoom Posted October 6, 2018 Yeah, pretty sure it's all connected, Doom 1, Doom 2, then first comes TNT then Plutonia. Hell, if Commander Keen is Doomguy's grandpapa/papa, I'm pretty sure anything goes. 2 Share this post Link to post
Maser Posted October 7, 2018 Ah yes! The good old MS-DOS days where nothing made sense and anything could be thrown into the cannon and no one gave a shit. 1 Share this post Link to post
<inactive>Player Lin Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) Uh, are you actually mean "canon"? :P I see TNT and Plutonia more like spin-off but who knows. 0 Share this post Link to post
TakenStew22 Posted October 7, 2018 6 hours ago, Player Lin said: Uh, are you actually mean "canon"? :P Yeah, sorry. X( 0 Share this post Link to post
Maser Posted October 7, 2018 9 hours ago, Player Lin said: Uh, are you actually mean "canon"? :P 2 Share this post Link to post
Doomsday Posted October 7, 2018 Im pretty sure this is the canon order of doom: Doom 3 Doom 1 Doom 2 Final Doom TNT and then plutonia But since doom 4 is a reboot of doom 1 i dont know how that works so would doom 4 be in place of doom 1 or what? 0 Share this post Link to post
seed Posted October 7, 2018 I think they're cannon considering that they ended up as sold products by id. They're both set after the events of Doom 2. I kinda like to think Doom 64 is cannon too and it acts as a conclusion to the trilogy, with Doom 3 and Doom 2016 and reboots of the series. 0 Share this post Link to post
Guydoom Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Agent6 said: I think they're cannon considering that they ended up as sold products by id. They're both set after the events of Doom 2. I kinda like to think Doom 64 is cannon too and it acts as a conclusion to the trilogy, with Doom 3 and Doom 2016 and reboots of the series. Pretty sure everythin' but Doom 3 is cannon. Doomguy dooms in 1, 2, No Rest for the Living, TNT, Plutonia, 64 and then traps himself in hell to do ultra mega pew pews onto the demons for all eternity, then he fucks up and gets shoved in a coffin, enter Doom 2016, then Doom Eternal. 1 Share this post Link to post
insertwackynamehere Posted October 7, 2018 I don’t even think Doom is canonical from level to level 2 Share this post Link to post
fraggle Posted October 7, 2018 Nobody knows what "canon" means in the context of Doom. Even the official stories to Doom and Doom II don't line up as you'd expect. 2 Share this post Link to post
snapshot Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) Never thought much about the canonicity of Plutonia and TNT, much like "the Doom canon" which I always thought id Software just never officially defined. 0 Share this post Link to post
TakenStew22 Posted October 7, 2018 Some say that Doom (2016) is a sequel to Doom 64. 2 Share this post Link to post
Quasar Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Guydoom said: Pretty sure everythin' but Doom 3 is cannon. Doomguy dooms in 1, 2, No Rest for the Living, TNT, Plutonia, 64 and then traps himself in hell to do ultra mega pew pews onto the demons for all eternity, then he fucks up and gets shoved in a coffin, enter Doom 2016, then Doom Eternal. Doom 3 has its place too. The dimension hopping madman known as the Doom Slayer ripped and tore his way through the enemies of the ancient Martians and then stayed in Hell once again; they must have assumed he was lost and so made an honorary coffin for him back on Mars. The carvings of Doomguy with the Soul Cube in Doom 2016 say otherwise though :P 4 Share this post Link to post
Guydoom Posted October 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, Quasar said: Doom 3 has its place too. The dimension hopping madman known as the Doom Slayer ripped and tore his way through the enemies of the ancient Martians and then stayed in Hell once again; they must have assumed he was lost and so made an honorary coffin for him back on Mars. The carvings of Doomguy with the Soul Cube in Doom 2016 say otherwise though :P All I can say is that Doom's "story/plot" is more confusing then Minecraft's. pretty goddamn weird but pretty goddamn cool. 1 Share this post Link to post
Avoozl Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) Well they weren't made by the original developers, the numbered games are pretty much what the original canon would be. 0 Share this post Link to post
HorrorMovieRei Posted October 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Quasar said: Doom 3 has its place too. I just assume Doom 3 is a remake/alternative take on Doom 1's plot. 3 Share this post Link to post
TakenStew22 Posted October 8, 2018 45 minutes ago, HorrorMovieGuy said: I just assume Doom 3 is a remake/alternative take on Doom 1's plot. Same. 0 Share this post Link to post
Nancsi Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) NRFTL felt more canonical to me in terms of both visuals and gameplay/combat. TNT and Master Levels are like the Memento Moris or Requiem, community projects with various styles and quality, and with no real timeline or sense of progression (honestly, UD episode 4 also feels like this). Just collections of maps. They are like music albums by "Various Artists". Plutonia is more about trolling the player, with IMHO nonsense visuals. The main point was to expand the gameplay limits and the skill of the players. Mapsets like Scythe 2, Valiant, NRFTL felt more canonical, because fewer (one or two, maybe three) authors make maps with level progression, and coherent aesthetics in mind. 1 Share this post Link to post
siteod Posted October 8, 2018 Doom 2016 heavily implies that Doomguy has gone slayer across multiple timelines/dimensions, so I just like to think of that as saying all wads are canon, though they don't necessarily have to all be in one timeline 0 Share this post Link to post
Gothic Posted October 26, 2018 They're as canon as every other Doom megawad 1 Share this post Link to post
Phoby Posted October 27, 2018 I don't see the point in figuring out which wads are canon. They don't have any real story, and I highly doubt they'll ever have specific canon references later on. 0 Share this post Link to post