A Nobody Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) There was a topic on here about getting rid of the red cross on health items in FreeDoom because of the organization with the same name. Well to me that should not have happened. Does Red Cross really know about FreeDoom? The project started out with having red crosses, so it should not be edited out because as you know, some old first person shooters like the Ultimate Doom had red crosses in their health items, and when they got released on Steam, those items were left intact. I know about the BFG Editions of Doom 1 and 2 where the medkits changed, but i'm talking about the originals that were released separately mind you. Strife Veteran Edition gets to keep its red crosses, so why should FreeDoom remove them? Edited October 23, 2018 by The-Heretic-Assassin : Fixed sbooters to shooters and added, "some" to the first person shooters sentence. 1 Share this post Link to post
magicsofa Posted October 23, 2018 Because hearts are cuter. They used hearts instead, right? 0 Share this post Link to post
A Nobody Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, magicsofa said: Because hearts are cuter. They used hearts instead, right? See, the Veteran Edition of Strife made me think that shooters today shouldn't need pill icons or something else on their medkits. 0 Share this post Link to post
Erick Posted October 23, 2018 What's wrong with the current health pickups? They have an H for health, they are easily recognizable and they do differentiate a bit from Doom. Don't think a red cross is really mandatory or that much of a problem really. 2 Share this post Link to post
Memfis Posted October 23, 2018 12 hours ago, The-Heretic-Assassin said: There was a topic... Well, have you actually read it? You haven't said anything that hasn't already been addressed in that discussion. 2 Share this post Link to post
Linguica Posted October 23, 2018 12 hours ago, The-Heretic-Assassin said: Well to me that should not have happened. Unfortunately, no one cares. 13 Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted October 23, 2018 56 minutes ago, Linguica said: fortunately, no one cares. 11 Share this post Link to post
mun Posted October 23, 2018 The Red Cross compliant change was mostly done out of good faith I think. Sure the original IWADs still have them, but the BFG editions complied. 2 Share this post Link to post
A Nobody Posted October 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Memfis said: Well, have you actually read it? You haven't said anything that hasn't already been addressed in that discussion. Yes, I have read it. I'm just suggesting to change it back. 1 hour ago, riderr3 said: Freedoom variants looks decent to me. Awesome. 0 Share this post Link to post
Wereknight Posted October 23, 2018 17 hours ago, The-Heretic-Assassin said: Does Red Cross really know about FreeDoom? Who even gives a shit? Well exept of naughty copyright injustice hookers. So yeah, they know about every game pulled red cross into. 2 Share this post Link to post
MrFlibble Posted October 28, 2018 It was stated in the original discussion of the matter that this is not a question of "who cares" but that of international law (also, not related to copyright issues). On 5/25/2011 at 12:39 PM, fraggle said: It was never legal - it's not even a matter of trademarks (as chungy seems to think). The red cross is a protected emblem under the Geneva Convention. It's not because of the Red Cross organisation that it should be changed - it's because it's in breach of international law. Not using the Red Cross symbol in video games has become standard practice nowadays and there is no need to knowingly break this rule with no apparent advantage to the project. Raymoohawk's health pickup sprites are excellent and do not need any edits IMO. 0 Share this post Link to post
fraggle Posted October 28, 2018 Please read the FAQ in the text file for geneva.wad to dispel any misconceptions you may have about this issue. The original thread is here and I stand by the decision to remove them. It's a minor, inconsequential change that ensures Freedoom complies with international law and the requests of some of the Red Cross societies. With that in mind, I don't want to re-open this whole can of worms again because I think it's likely to be a pointless discussion that wastes a lot of time and energy, so I'm closing the thread. 0 Share this post Link to post