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Alfonzo

The DWIronman League dies to: TNT: Renascence & TNT: Resistance

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Wha.....what are those wads? Never heard of them lol...

Guess that I'll go blind and survive both of them.

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Hey folks! There have been a couple of rule changes based on discussions resulting from your continued feedback — much appreciated. Here's the quick run-down; it's nothing too significant.

  • Additional WADs of any kind may no longer be loaded alongside the hosted WADs.
  • Dynamic lights and brightmaps are no longer permitted (until the advent of ZDoom stuff eyyy).
  • If the stream/video/demo recording of your official run is interrupted due to technical difficulties, you are no longer permitted a second go. Any surviving recording may be used to register a DNF result. You may load from a saved game file only if you didn't progress past the save point (as determined on a case-by-case basis. As a general rule, though: you can't have moved much and you can't have killed anything).
  • Inspection of the WAD's maps via an editor and observance of pre-Ironman demos and recordings will now qualify the official run as category 3.

You may notice that there's nothing mandating "single sitting" runs despite my making all sorts of noises to that end when things were running hot. I've decided to hold back on that decision based partly on some sound reasoning by @Crusader No Regret. Indeed, the system wasn't broken, and I've considered a number of other mitigating factors since then that would make such a ruling seem strangely punishing, especially given the leniency that is given in other areas. @HexaDoken may be interested in this development.

 

Less blabber from me this month. Happy trails!

Edited by Alfonzo : Clarification

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Those are bold words leo, good luck! :P

Another blind set for me, I might find some time to practice... but then deadlines are also catching up on me!

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Sorry for double post but, checked the rules and this is my opinion.

 

- First one? Gotcha, no additional wads for a clear demo 

- Second one? I use prboom+ anyway, so...not an issue :)

- Third one? That's quite the specific issue which, unfortunately, won't be quite clear...

- Fourth one? How can you recognize a prerun from an official run? Through file modification from date or something?

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Resistance? That's fitting since we're

 

 

Might actually do my runs today since I have some free time on my hands.

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1 hour ago, Alfonzo said:

 


prboom-plus -file tnt-ren -deh d64d2.deh -complevel 4 -warp -skill 4 -record my_demo

 

Got an unnecessary -deh in there. Also should include -iwad tnt.wad

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TNT Renascence: 

 

UV, Blind (Although, I do remember the orignal tnt a bit)

Died on map 04

 

Spoiler

Was doing rather well but then, panicked when I saw a group of chaingunners. I retracted myself and in the process, rocketed myself in the face, putting my health down to 6%. Then, got finished by some chaingunner :/

 

Forgot to mention, but: Recorded under prboom+ 2.5.1.4 

 

YB-RenIRON-nov18.zip

Edited by Yugiboy85

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That didn't take long, I'm already done since I died very early in both wads (MAP03 and MAP02 respectively if I'm not wrong). Got taken down by surprise traps twice. The enemies even anticipated my fall with great precision in Resistance by lighting up a candle in my memory exactly where my final resting place would be.

 

Cat 1, as usual. Wish I'd do a better job but ugh, playing maps in the vein of MAP02 of Resistance is definitely not going to go well :v .

 

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agent6tntren.zip

agent6tntresist.zip

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1 hour ago, leodoom85 said:

Third one? That's quite the specific issue which, unfortunately, won't be quite clear...

 

If your game crashes, you're done for. If your stream goes offline and you don't have a backup demo running to save proof, same thing.

 

Your choice of recording has to follow the game from A to B with no blind spots, where B is death, survival or a lightning storm knocking out the power grid. You don't get to go back to A and unless Zeus was considerate enough to kill GZDoom seconds after it autosaves at the beginning of the next level, you don't get to go back to B either.

 

1 hour ago, leodoom85 said:

Fourth one? How can you recognize a prerun from an official run? Through file modification from date or something?

 

Preparation runs for cat 3 are okay because they're part of the program. Otherwise, if it isn't a submission in this thread, it'll make your run cat 3. I'll change the wording if necessary.

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37 minutes ago, Alfonzo said:

You don't get to go back to A and unless Zeus was considerate enough to kill GZDoom seconds after it autosaves at the beginning of the next level, you don't get to go back to B either.

Zeus can go fuck himself :(
yeah.....

Well, that's good for clarification.

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2 hours ago, JudgeDeadd said:

Also should include -iwad tnt.wad

 

I suppose that should have been evident to me from the titles, but I didn't even think about this requiring TNT.wad until seeing this post. As I don't own a copy of Final Doom, I won't be able to join in the fun. And here I was, all ready to play these blind instead of practicing, on account of my month being packed. I was looking forward to testing out if my play has improved, like I think it has.

 

Oh well, maybe I'll end up getting a copy sometime this month. We'll see if I can talk myself into it.

 

I assume playing with the wrong iwad wouldn't be accepted?

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You could play it with FreeDoom, which has all the assets necessary to run Final Doom PWADs properly. I'm pretty sure even if you record it that way others will still be able to play it back in the real thing.

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I don't think a demo recorded with a different IWAD will desync, but the issue with running it with, say, Doom II, would be that there would be a lot of missing textures.

So I think FreeDoom would be the thing to get.

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I look forward to playing both of these later in the month after @an_mutt and @Dragonfly have had their attempts. Just as a reminder, I'm out of the Britbowl but I will still be doing Ironman runs for the rest of the year.....I wouldn't mind throwing a spanner into the works for the remaining two Britbowl contestants!

 

#Team5-5-2

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2 hours ago, SiFi270 said:

You could play it with FreeDoom, which has all the assets necessary to run Final Doom PWADs properly. I'm pretty sure even if you record it that way others will still be able to play it back in the real thing.

 

2 hours ago, Aquila Chrysaetos said:

I don't think a demo recorded with a different IWAD will desync, but the issue with running it with, say, Doom II, would be that there would be a lot of missing textures.

So I think FreeDoom would be the thing to get.

 

OK. Thanks for the suggestion. I had been planning on using GZDoom, so there would at least have been the cross-hatched "missing texture" texture instead of HOMs, but the FreeDoom angle will be better with PrBoom+, which I typically use and am I used to.

 

I have a copy of FreeDoom (I downloaded it in 2016, so I'll have to make sure it's the latest version), so I'll use it to play these. Like I said earlier, busy month, so I'll probably do a blind run either this weekend or next weekend. Honestly, if it doesn't happen by the evening of the 10th, it's most likely not happening.

 

 

@Alfonzo

By the way, nice job getting the leaderboard for last month updated as quickly as you did. Nice recovery from last month.

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14 minutes ago, Pegleg said:

By the way, nice job getting the leaderboard for last month updated as quickly as you did. Nice recovery from last month.

I appreciate the update btw as well as the rest of participants :)

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Renascence - DEAD Map04

 

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Resistance - DEAD Map05 (the demo didn't "wrap up properly" because prboom crashed on exit, but I screencapped the scene of death.)

 

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demos: noisy_TNT-Nov2018.zip

edit: I played some of AD/Fonzo's map in the one set, so a low Category 2.

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A fairly good one! I forgot how it feels to have good luck through the run.

 

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CATEGORY: 1

DEATH: MAP05 (Renascence - chaingunner) and MAP06 (Resistance - chaingunner)

TOTAL MAPS SURVIVED: 9

LINK: naza_tnts.zip

 

A great run. Renascence I got lost on MAP02 and MAP03. I could have exited MAP02 five minutes earlier due to an accidental key grab, and MAP03 had this weird switch mechanism which I did but I forgot one so I looped around for five minutes. Accidentally exited MAP04 because nothing said that was the exit itself, and Lady Luck decided enough is enough when I stepped out too early on MAP05 to deal with some chaingunners - until that the map was quite easy.

 

Surviving Resistance was always going to be tricky (seeing other people's disastrous runs on MAP02 gave me little hope), and with the limited ammunition I had on hand I had to make a run for in on MAP02 - it played out well, but man, the mappers overused the arch-viles. Barons are used good to build up tension. MAP03 was not an easy one, due to quite a surprise near the end. MAP04 was quite a map, favourite one I'd played yet. MAP05 tried to be tough with extremely unfair monster ambushes to simulate """difficulty""" but in the end it was more stupid than difficult. MAP06 was a Scottymap so I knew I'd probably meet my fate there - it happened similarly to MAP06 of Coffee Break, where my brain went zero and chaingunners shredded me.

 

Overall, I'm very happy with my run, and I hope I get a better placing than last month. Leaderboard will be updated shortly.

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Lost my PC access again so I'm going to have to find a Mac demo recording solution.

 

With Eternity, what's the easiest way to set compatibility with the contest conditions? EE doesn't appear to have PrBoom+ complevel or ZDoom compatibility mode equivalents, just individual feature options. And some of the individual options are a little head-scratching to me...

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2 hours ago, Big Ol Billy said:

Lost my PC access again so I'm going to have to find a Mac demo recording solution.

 

I think you could use GZDoom (which can be run natively on a Mac). Otherwise, I use PrBoom+ on my Mac. Being rather unsavvy when it comes to tech, I had to ask for help because I kept running into problems. You may would likely have more success more easily.

 

 

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@Alfonzo Oops , I accenditaly wrote "complevel 1" instead of "category 1" , so my run isn't cat 2.

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