DJVCardMaster Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) I always wanted to make this list, just to sort most of the 32-level 'Old-School' megawads that exist, ordering them by year. I would really love your help on this, guys. I also want to make this list with you just to know what megawads I missed to play, or I forgot to add to the list. The idea is to put the most memorable (Even the ones that didn't recieve "the best wad of x year" by the community) maps out there. When I say 'Old-School maps' I refer to those WADs which can be played on older limit-removing source-ports (Example: Boom) or the original Doom2.exe aswell. Those maps that remain classics and faithful to the original Doom Experience, so "Doom in Hexen format" made maps or things like that won't be accepted. Also, no TC WADs. In addition, not less than 32 levels. Good thing to note is that '3-full-episode' Original Doom maps can count too. Also, mention the year and the author/authors that created it if possible. I'm going to edit this list frecuently: 1994:NJ Doom (Nigel Rowand) 1995: The Lost Episodes of Doom (Christen Klie, Bob Carter) [Commercial PWAD]H2H-Xmas (Various) Memento Mori (Various) 1996: TNT: Evilution (TeamTNT) [Commercial IWAD] The Plutonia Experiment (Dario Casali, Milo Casali) [Commercial IWAD] Perdition's Gate (Wraith Corporation) [Commercial PWAD] Hell To Pay (Wraith Corporation) [Commercial PWAD]Memento Mori II (Various) Icarus: Alien Vanguard (Team TNT) 1997: Requiem (Various)Hell Revealed (Yonatan Donner, Haggay Niv)Eternal Doom (Team TNT) STRAIN (Alpha Dog Alliance) 1998: The Twilight Zone (Paul Corfiatis)Mars War (Nathan Lineback) 1999: Demonfear (Adam Windsor) The Twilight Zone 2 (Paul Corfiatis) 2000: 10 Sectors (Various) 2002: Alien Vendetta (Various) 2002: A Doom Odyssey (Paul Corfiatis) 2003:Scythe (Erik Alm) Community Chest (Various) 2004:Hell Revealed II (Various) Community Chest 2 (Various) 2005:Scythe 2 (Erik Alm) Congestion 1024 (Various) Kama Sutra (Adolf Vojta, Jakub Razak) 2006: Community Chest 3 (Various) New Doom Community Project (Various) 2008: The Plutonia Experiment 2 (Plutonia 2 Team) 2009: Whispers of Satan (Paul Corfiatis, Kristian Aro)Claustrophobia 1024 (Various) New Doom Community Project II (Various) Heroes' Tales (Various) 2010: Speed of Doom (Joshy, Darkwave0000)Claustrophobia 1024 2 (Various) 2011:Plutonia Revisited (Various) Reverie (Michael Jan Krizik) 1994 Tune UP Proyect (Snarboo) Wonderfull Doom (Wraith) Jenesis (Jimmy Paddock) Khorus' Speedy Shit (Khorus) 2012: Community Chest 4 (Various) Doom The Way ID Did (Various) 2013: Doom 2 The Way ID Did (Various) Unholy Realms (Brian Knox) 3 Heures D'Agonie (Various) 2014: Doom 2 In Name Only (Various) Resurgence (Joshy) Going Down (Mouldy) 2015: Sunlust (Ribbiks, Dannebubinga) 2016:Ancient Aliens (Skillsaw) Mano Laikas (Nicolas Monti) Japanese Community Project (Various) The Journey (hervoheebo) Urania (riderr3) 2017:TNT: Revilution (Various) Moonblood (Deadwing) Commercial IWADs or PWADs can count on this list, so feel free to add them Edited January 9, 2019 by DJVCardMaster : Edited Title for expanding the list, adding hyperlinks to the database for download. Adding WADs to the list 10 Share this post Link to post
DJVCardMaster Posted December 2, 2018 NOTE: I lost track of the Doom Community in 2014 and moved to other games, so I don't know anything about post 2014 releases, so that's why I also wanted you to keep updating this list. Also in the future I would be adding the idgames download links for the maps, just for easy access. 1 Share this post Link to post
elend Posted December 2, 2018 A friend of mine is still playing around with his Amiga. As some of you know there are also Doom source ports available for it with DoomAttack being the "best" one at the moment. Would these WADs actually work with this Source Port on the Amiga (FPS not withstanding)? 0 Share this post Link to post
Walter confetti Posted December 2, 2018 Wait, aren't 1994 tune up project made for boom-compatible ports? 1 Share this post Link to post
Ezepov Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) Edited December 2, 2018 by Ezepov 2 Share this post Link to post
pcorf Posted December 2, 2018 Some of the megawads you listed (like WOS) are for Boom or limit removing. 1 Share this post Link to post
VanaheimRanger Posted December 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, pcorf said: Some of the megawads you listed (like WOS) are for Boom or limit removing. Back to Saturn X is vanilla format, a very good set. Ancient Aliens is also a great more modern WAD, i'm not sure how it would fare on newer source ports, though, you can run it on PrBoom+ for sure, though. 0 Share this post Link to post
VanaheimRanger Posted December 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Walter confetti said: Wait, aren't 1994 tune up project made for boom-compatible ports? 10 minutes ago, pcorf said: Some of the megawads you listed (like WOS) are for Boom or limit removing. From the OP "When I say 'Vanilla maps' I refer to those WADs which can be played on older source-ports (Example: Boom)." Perhaps it could be titled better. Like "Let's create a list of the best Boom and below 32-level megawads"? Idk... 1 Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted December 2, 2018 2 hours ago, DJVCardMaster said: When I say 'Vanilla maps' I refer to those WADs which can be played on older source-ports (Example: Boom). Boom is not accepted as being vanilla around here. 2 hours ago, DJVCardMaster said: Also, not less than 32 levels. RIP Back to Saturn X. 4 Share this post Link to post
TheV1perK1ller Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) 2016 - Mano Laikas: A Road to Gazmatti (Nicolas Monti) 2018 - Struggle: Antaresian Legacy (antares031) EDIT: I actually probably wouldn't consider M.L. to be a 'great' megawad in comparison to others on this list. My bad. 3 Share this post Link to post
Aquila Chrysaetos Posted December 2, 2018 52 minutes ago, guitardz said: Ancient Aliens is also a great more modern WAD, i'm not sure how it would fare on newer source ports, though, you can run it on PrBoom+ for sure, though. AA is Boom-compatible. The criteria for wads does need to be clarified a bit. Do the listed wads need to be actually vanilla-compatible or can limit-removing be included? Are Boom wads allowed? If so, then that raises the question of whether complevel 11 wads count as Boom or not, because complevel 11 is MBF compatibility. 3 hours ago, DJVCardMaster said: When I say 'Vanilla maps' I refer to those WADs which can be played on older source-ports (Example: Boom). Also, I noted this little thing in the TeamTNT thread: On 11/29/2018 at 11:24 AM, Aquila Chrysaetos said: Actually, ZDoom is older than Boom by six weeks, and ZDoom came to support Boom-compatible maps in December of '98. Obviously you're not looking for ZDoom wads, even if they're relatively simple compared to today like KZoom and Zort, but it's best to define your terms so we don't get this confusion. 2 Share this post Link to post
VanaheimRanger Posted December 2, 2018 55 minutes ago, Gez said: RIP Back to Saturn X. Oh shit, I totally forgot it wasn't a full 32. 0 Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted December 2, 2018 That said, there's always this. With Javascript you can sort the table by engine and by number of levels. 2 Share this post Link to post
Tribal Posted December 2, 2018 I'm new to the Doom community so i would like to know if someone already made a list with maps/wads that don't have custom weapons and enemies. I'm asking this because i started to play maps with the ZRift mod https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60811 which already changes the enemies and weapons... so i think it would break compatibility thanks :) 1 Share this post Link to post
Reisal Posted December 2, 2018 It could be useful if you make the megawad names link to their respective downloads. 1 Share this post Link to post
DJVCardMaster Posted December 2, 2018 Edited the title to include Boom or Limit-Removal megaWADs 2 Share this post Link to post
TheV1perK1ller Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) 2006: NewDoom Community Project (Various) 2009: NewDoom Community Project II (Various) EDIT - 2008: Plutonia 2 (Various) EDIT 2 - 2014: Resurgence (Joshy) Edited December 2, 2018 by TheV1perK1ller : Added two entries. 2 Share this post Link to post
TheV1perK1ller Posted December 2, 2018 Community Chest 3 was released in 2007, not 2006. Sorry. 1 Share this post Link to post
Magnusblitz Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, guitardz said: From the OP "When I say 'Vanilla maps' I refer to those WADs which can be played on older source-ports (Example: Boom)." Perhaps it could be titled better. Like "Let's create a list of the best Boom and below 32-level megawads"? Idk... "Vanilla" has a very set-in-stone definition, so yeah, would probably get more traction if OP titled it differently. 1 Share this post Link to post
Pegleg Posted December 3, 2018 @DJVCardMaster Welcome to Doomworld! You may want to edit your OP to do the following: Revise your definition of vanilla Doom since the wording of your OP still conflates vanilla and limit-removing Clarify (in the title) that your looking for 32-level Doom 2 megawads and Doom megawads that replace 3 or 4 full episodes (so 27 or 36 maps) Additionally, I think it would be useful to identify which of the maps in your list are actually "vanilla" and which are "limit-removing." It would also be useful to identify which were Doom (original or Ultimate) and which were Doom 2 or just how many maps were replaced (27, 32, or 36 would be just as informative). 3 Share this post Link to post
galileo31dos01 Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) Both BTSX episodes have less than 32 maps. Also, just to contribute with some only old-school-ish megawads that I liked the most, besides the ones mentioned above: 1997: STRAIN by The Alpha Dog Alliance. [Vanilla] (do partial conversions count?) 2011: Wonderful Doom by Wraith. [Vanilla] 2013: Unholy Realms by Brian Knox. [Limit-Removing] 2014: Going Down by Mouldy. [Boom] 2016: Japanese Community Project by various people. [Limit-Removing] The Journey by hervoheebo [Limit-Removing] 2017: Moonblood by Deadwing. [Boom] Will probably add more later. 3 Share this post Link to post
Grain of Salt Posted December 3, 2018 Sunlust <--- driveby sunlust mention, aw yeah 4 Share this post Link to post
VanaheimRanger Posted December 3, 2018 I like the title change to "Old-school" for the OP. Also, many have noted that the BTSX episodes aren't quite 32 maps, I believe they are in the 25-27 map range, like 25 with 2 secret maps I believe. But I still think they deserve to be here. The feel fully fleshed out and like full on megawads to me, even if they are a few maps short. 0 Share this post Link to post
DJVCardMaster Posted December 3, 2018 I had a busy day, that's why I didn't update that much, but I'm trying to add more things to the main post, thanks for the feedback, and keep it coming :) 1 Share this post Link to post
loveless Posted December 3, 2018 Going off of a few posts in here, mentions of Sunlust, Unholy Realms, and JPCP get my vote. 2 Share this post Link to post
FrancisT218 Posted December 3, 2018 Some that really feel to me like they could BE older wads, regardless of when they were actually released. All have at least 3 full DooM I episodes or 32 DooM II maps: 2002: 2002ADO (Various) 2009: Ultimate Needs More Detail (Fiend) 2011: DooM Core (valkiriforce), Jenesis (Jimmy), and DooM II Unleashed (Various) 2012: Base Ganymede (Khorus) 2016: DooM The Way id Did - Lost Episodes (Various) and No End In Sight (NaturalTvventy, Xaser, and Chris Lutz) 2018: Deathless and Jiffy Bag (both by Jimmy) 1 Share this post Link to post
TheV1perK1ller Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) Some other ones I could think of: 2006: Armadosia: The Mad Corridor (arma kero) 2007: 1 Monster (Various) 2011: Doom 2: Unleashed / Pcorf Community Project (Various) 2012: A.L.T. ([B0S] Clan) 2013: Hellbound (Zoltán Sófalvi) 2013: Interception (The Interceptors) 2014: NOVA: The Birth (TeamNOVA) 2015: NOVA II: New Dawn (TeamNOVA 2) 2015: 2048 Unleashed / Pcorf Community Project 2 (Various) 2015: Five Rooms of Doom (Various) 2016: Bloodstain (Pipicz) 2 Share this post Link to post
Swalzi Posted December 3, 2018 2003: The Rebirth (Vader) I like this vanilla-megawad by Vader. It's pretty easy on continuous but kind of hard on pistol start. Maps aren't too long which is a plus for me. 0 Share this post Link to post
galileo31dos01 Posted December 4, 2018 Some missing personal old-school-ish goodies: 1996: Perdition's Gate by Tom and Bob Mustaine, or just Wraith Corporation. [Vanilla] Hell to Pay by Wraith Corporation. [Vanilla] 2009: Heroes' Tales by various people from the Russian community. [Limit-Removing] 2011: Jenesis by Jimmy Paddock. [Boom] Khorus' Speedy Shit by Khorus. [Vanilla] 2013: 3 Heures D'Agonie by various people from the French community. [Limit-Removing] 2016: Urania by riderr3. [Vanilla] No End In Sight by NaturalTvventy, Xaser and Lutz. [Vanilla/Limit-Removing/ZDoom] 4 Share this post Link to post