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CrbnBased

Delta Touch on Android

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1 hour ago, CrbnBased said:

We'd have to find out the best source port to use based on what's available for each different OS.

 

The only sane choice available for Android users using delta touch is Zandronum, as none of the other 4 ports have client/server network code.

 

19 hours ago, Welfare Prodigy said:

One of these days we'll have to get some people together from the doomworld community to play some online deathwatch with. No mods, just straight up DooM.

 

Agreed! It'll be good fun to frantically and clumsily bump around maps barely attempting to get frags while fighting the touchscreen controls with others playing in the same playing field. At this point tho rather than say "we should totally do x one day..." we now should be saying anytime, anywhere, since that's what we have here :)

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1 hour ago, Fonze said:

....we should be saying anytime, anywhere, since that's what we have here :)

Lol true statement, I update mine to that. A time frame needs to be set, as I'm sure we are (maybe) from different parts of the world. 

 

I am in Columbus, Ohio USA. @Fonze & @CrbnBased & if @beloko (among others who read this) where is everyone from? 

 

MP is so different too, much more fast paced. I was messing around with bots on Zandronum the other day,

 

(hard to find MP match, I don't feel like downloading a bunch of wads to be compat. with any one server)

 

and forgot how fast paced it is. I miss playing DM in either E1M1, E2M1, NRFTL Level 1 Earth Base, and want to try the MP levels of Sigil too. E1M2 is a good level with more than 2 people. 

 

And, the nostalgia of PSX DooM system link, the good ol days lol

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Honestly I'm not really interested in playing any types of dm's on any iWad maps other than maybe a quickie on map01 or map07; we would have much more fun on actual dm maps which have been proven to be fun to play by standing the test of time. Several dwangos, brit+exec, greenwar, and basically every map in duel40b.pk3 would be great fun for old school fragging and are all wads you'll see played regularly. If you're going to go online though there's a good chance you'll have to download random resource wads anyway though; for example tspg servers autoload a newtextcolors pk3. Doomshack servers seem to mostly if not all use the newtextcolors pk3 in addition to connectsfx.pk3 and zandrospree-something.pk3. If I set this up or otherwise participate I'll share the link that I'll use to pass files to my phone so folks can have a convenient way to download all relevant wads, but I think you'll get a better turnout using wads that people like to play.

 

Additionally, doom 1 deathmatch is severely lacking due to the nonexistence of the ssg, so we would want to do doom 2, or tnt or plutonia but not everybody has those latter two so doom2.wad it would be.

 

That all said, I just don't find the iWad maps as they are to flow well enough for fun deathmatches/duels, but luckily for us many of the better ones have been modified like a thousand times and some of the best dm maps are edited/reimagined iWad maps. Again, you're very likely to play any of the wads I mentioned in the future if you dm often so you might as well get them now.

 

I think duel/small maps would be best suited for this as folks will be uncoordinated to begin with, plus for newer players it would be good to have less map area to learn and areas that flow well making them easy to navigate at random. There are plenty of pwads with maps that fit this bill, but iWad maps will only have going for them a vague familiarity, (mp pickups will still have to be learned plus there are pistol spawns) and most also will likely be too large to foster a match that wont become boring, especially among players playing with what is basically a major handicap. Imagine 3-4 people slowly fumbling through the dark hallways of map03 underequipped for battle other than the one guy who spawned near the ssg, and that's just the third map. By contrast many pwad dm maps are easy to learn with concise design and foster quick gameplay that gets you equipped and lets you get back into the fray as soon as possible.

 

Just some stuff to think about :)

 

As for my time zone I'm on the east coast, though with this being on the phone I can basically play a quick match any time I'm not literally doing something, like working, sleeping, or staring at an unfinished map in db expecting it to finish itself. I could play a match at work on break, which while not being something I see happening, is nuts. Dot wad. But that also means it should be easier to set up casual matches, because when bored dm is literally right at your fingertips always now.

 

The accessibility of doom mp/dm this brings to the table could help bring more people into the mp/dm community, which is something I find awesome. It may be good to look into either making a discord server for mobile doom or asking for a channel to be added in the existing mp servers for mobile duming to serve as a place for people to not only set up matches but maybe also to find/make quick matches.

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True (to all that lol) and no, anything after the second level in anything wouldn't be fun at all, I've tried before lol it sucks. I have all the licensed iwads.

 

I have most console versions of DooM, from PS1-360 with the exception of DooM64 & SNES DooM (shouldn't have sold those) 

 

If you have Google Drive (first 15 gigs of storage are free) you could compile one zip folder containing all the downloads you described and make it shareable, provide people with the link to download it. I keep back ups of all my DooM/Quake/Wolf stuff in it. It is also good storage management to keep other things there so I have as much free space on my phone for other stuff to download. 

 

Smaller maps are always best for dm and I've always been partial to CQB myself, not everyone likes that but if a map is too big, it's very easy to lose interest, which is why E1&2M1 are good. It would be nice to see what people have been playing on all these years tho, I saw your video you linked the other day and thought it was amazing. 

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2 hours ago, Welfare Prodigy said:

If you have Google Drive (first 15 gigs of storage are free) you could compile one zip folder containing all the downloads you described and make it shareable, provide people with the link to download it. I keep back ups of all my DooM/Quake/Wolf stuff in it. It is also good storage management to keep other things there so I have as much free space on my phone for other stuff to download. 

 

While I am willing to zip up wads for a particular play session for easy access for others, I won't be hosting an entire repertoire of wads. Instead, I think it'd be best to direct folks over to https://www.doomshack.org/ for a complete list of wads and downloads for them.

 

The Classic Multiplayer Doom discord server made a channel for mobile dewming, here's an invite link for the server:

https://discord.gg/X8dTFGP

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@Fonze doomshack is really cool, seeing all those archived DooM sites abandoned over the years.

 

I'll look into those downloads soon, it's been forever since playing MP on anything, let alone DooM. 

 

Forgive the ignorance but what is discord and what does it do? I made a profile for it awhile ago to download Project Brutality 3.0 beta but that's about it, life sucks you away and get out of touch with things.

 

 

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Discord is a program with text and voice chat geared towards gamers which can be used to coordinate matches/etc or find people available for quick games. For all intents and purposes it has replaced the use of irc as a means to talk to other doomers in real time.

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@CrbnBased Hey, any chance you could upload the plastic textures mod somewhere? I'm looking to get them but didn't have the chance to download before they got taken down.

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1 hour ago, -TDRR- said:

@CrbnBased Hey, any chance you could upload the plastic textures mod somewhere? I'm looking to get them but didn't have the chance to download before they got taken down.

Wow, everything I'm experimenting with is getting pulled.  I'll see what I can do to reupload, there's a lighter option that loads faster and is less pronounced that I got off of Doomworld.  Search for PBR materials, those look quite nice in the mod compilation I am currently experimenting with.

 

 

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