BabyGiggles Posted September 17, 2019 So I recently bought a big box of Doom 2 Hell on Earth for 50 dollars on ebay, it's not too bad, little scuffed but fine overall. Anyways, is there any recommendations/tips as to taking care of big boxes? Would really want to make the box last for a long time. 1 Share this post Link to post
famicommander Posted September 17, 2019 It's a freaking cardboard box. Video games are for playing and hoarding idiots like that guy in the video above are just driving up the prices for actual gamers with their shelf porn they never have any intention of playing. 9 Share this post Link to post
BoxY Posted September 17, 2019 As far as I can think it through, you shouldn't need to take any special precautions except for keeping it somewhere it's not likely to get damaged or wet, or regularly exposed to a lot of sunlight or humidity. As for the value of keeping boxes, there will never be any more original big box editions of Doom ever made so there's nothing unreasonable to my mind about a handful of collectors trying to keep some in good condition. Doom is not a finite resource subject to hoarding and if anyone wants a perfectly good copy of Doom for cheap, Steam and GoG exist. And a lot of collectors do play their games regularly. 1 Share this post Link to post
famicommander Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BoxY said: As far as I can think it through, you shouldn't need to take any special precautions except for keeping it somewhere it's not likely to get damaged or wet, or regularly exposed to a lot of sunlight or humidity. As for the value of keeping boxes, there will never be any more original big box editions of Doom ever made so there's nothing unreasonable to my mind about a handful of collectors trying to keep some in good condition. Doom is not a finite resource subject to hoarding and if anyone wants a perfectly good copy of Doom for cheap, Steam and GoG exist. And a lot of collectors do play their games regularly. Paying 50 dollars for cardboard is what's wrong with this hobby. EDIT: and MJR will succumb to the gravy in his veins before he could feasibly play 1/50 of the stuff on his walls. He's never even attempted to install any of that crap, guaranteed. People like him are why Super Nintendo games are 15X the price they used to be. So they can put a trophy on the wall. 3 Share this post Link to post
Eurisko Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) I disagree entirely , one of the big reasons people have started collecting this stuff is preservation because as convenient as this digital era can be , once they turn off the lights to that magic room in the 'cloud' that stores all your purchases...... they're are GONE. Yes , they've become silly expensive in some cases but there's worse things you could spend money on and besides, a hobby is a hobby. 4 Share this post Link to post
Pegg Posted September 17, 2019 The games are 15X their original prices because they aren't produced anymore. Not because some guy bought a copy when it got released. Same with collectors editions (which are already a GASP version aimed at similar people and not usual customers). 3 Share this post Link to post
geo Posted September 17, 2019 Put it into dirt, water it every day and talk to it. Praise often works. 8 Share this post Link to post
famicommander Posted September 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Pegg said: The games are 15X their original prices because they aren't produced anymore. Not because some guy bought a copy when it got released. Same with collectors editions (which are already a GASP version aimed at similar people and not usual customers). No, Super Nintendo games exploded in prices in just the last few years. They've been out of production for decades. The difference is, people like MJR buy them in huge quantities after the fact so they can make "hidden gem" Youtube videos so that other idiots who never intend to play them can also track down copies to put on their shelves forever after. People going after "complete sets" and getting their games VGA graded. I have no problem with people buying old games. I have a problem with people buying crap they're never going to use just to impress other shelf queens on the internet, driving up prices for people who just want to play some damn video games. 0 Share this post Link to post
Linguica Posted September 17, 2019 I have a Doom 2 box, and it's kinda beat up, but whatever. I store it on a shelf in a cupboard. It also has some markings on the front which makes it worthless? 18 Share this post Link to post
Loud Silence Posted September 17, 2019 @Linguica I recognize only Romero's sign. Who are owners of other signs'? 0 Share this post Link to post
D4NUK1 Posted September 17, 2019 30 minutes ago, Loud Silence said: @Linguica I recognize only Romero's sign. Who are owners of other signs'? Tim Willis it's on the left center :P And i dont catch any others. 0 Share this post Link to post
geo Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Linguica said: I have a Doom 2 box, and it's kinda beat up, but whatever. I store it on a shelf in a cupboard. It also has some markings on the front which makes it worthless? Wow that's one second hand copy, there's a ton of names on it! Time to dig up my copy. Edited September 17, 2019 by geo 0 Share this post Link to post
kaleb. Posted September 17, 2019 4 hours ago, famicommander said: It's a freaking cardboard box. Video games are for playing and hoarding idiots like that guy in the video above are just driving up the prices for actual gamers with their shelf porn they never have any intention of playing. yea fuck people for buying things they want...lol 3 Share this post Link to post
VGA Posted September 17, 2019 4 hours ago, famicommander said: It's a freaking cardboard box. Video games are for playing and hoarding idiots like that guy in the video above are just driving up the prices for actual gamers with their shelf porn they never have any intention of playing. You don't need physical boxes for games, do you? It seems to me, boxes for old games are for collectors nowadays. 3 Share this post Link to post
Loud Silence Posted September 17, 2019 Now i recognize Tom Hall under Romero. 0 Share this post Link to post
nue Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Loud Silence said: @Linguica I recognize only Romero's sign. Who are owners of other signs'? center to the right might be Jay Wilbur's and the bottom one is Tom Hall 0 Share this post Link to post
Loud Silence Posted September 17, 2019 Top left must be Donna Jackson. 0 Share this post Link to post
Chezza Posted September 18, 2019 @famicommander must hate museums, preserving old limited items showing off. 0 Share this post Link to post
famicommander Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Chezza said: @famicommander must hate museums, preserving old limited items showing off. If some idiot put a bunch of perfectly playable video games in a museum just to be stared at in their boxes, sure, I'd hate it. A painting exists to be stared at. It can fully be enjoyed in a museum setting. You don't put a copy of Spaceballs on DVD on display in a museum. You freaking watch the movie. You don't put a copy of Animal Farm on display in a museum, you crack it open and read it. 1 Share this post Link to post
Doomkid Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) I have well over 200 cartridges for old game systems, I actually have played all of them over the years though (although some not to completion) but I still kept the carts after I was more or less totally done with some of them, they're all on a shelf downstairs. Do I qualify for the hoarding fuckface asshole who drives prices up awards? I also have a VASTLY SUPERIOR box to linguica: -Doesn't contain Doom2 -Loads of shovelware maps that are unplayable -Only signed by Romero rather than the whole crew -Box is even more bashed up BOOOOOOM! beat that!!!! Oh I also intend to keep my Sigil box unopened for a long ass time like a proper crater-brained POS since I had already played it a bunch by the time the box arrived 7 Share this post Link to post
WadArchive Posted September 18, 2019 or prices/demand goes up because those that had those system or games when they are younger want to go back and play them for nostalgic reasons. Or now have some disposable income to be able to buy the games when previously they didn't. why else are all the console companies producing mini consoles? I doubt it is because of the collectors out there 1 Share this post Link to post
CyberDreams Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) It's basically whatever's hot at the moment. Classic FPS games are really hot right now (well so is anything retro really) so anything Doom related is expensive as balls. I don't want to start a big collection but i do want to own at least The Ultimate Doom and Doom II but i can't find a box that's complete with everything and in decent condition for a reasonable buy it now price on ebay. I don't ever bid on anything so i doubt i'll find one anytime soon, especially since i don't work (that means that i don't have a lot of money lol). The Macintosh versions seem to be cheaper though so maybe i'll pick up one of those (although i wouldn't be able to actually play it). I did manage to finally buy Doom 3 and Resurrection of Evil CIB for PC in nice condition but those are easy to find and really cheap as i really do like Doom 3. @OneDoomedSpaceMarineBut yeah, to store your box just make sure it's not in a humid or wet place or in direct sunlight. Direct sunlight will fade it over time. Just use common sense really and it'll be fine :) I do sort of have a hatred (as well as jealousy obviously lol) for people who just collect games and don't play them. I kind of understand it though as i do want to start collecting just mainly Doom related items but i don't want to collect every damned boxed PC game that is out there. But most of those big time collectors know other people who have the items so they get hooked up or they find them for dirt cheap so it's not like they actually paid the going rate for them. How they manage to actually find things in thrift stores i'll never know as i can never find anything worth of value at my local Goodwills ect (i stopped going last year but my dad tells me that they still never have anything). People still find CRT's and stuff at certain ones. They haven't had CRT's at mine in 3-4 years or more as they stopped accepting them because no one was buying them lol. It doesn't really have anything to do with older video games not being produced anymore as 10-15 years ago SNES games weren't produced either and they weren't that expensive tbh but they have shot up significantly in price lately as well as a lot of fakes appearing. It's just the whole "nostalgia/retro" craze that's been going around lately. Edited September 19, 2019 by CyberDreams 1 Share this post Link to post
kaleb. Posted September 18, 2019 13 hours ago, Doomkid said: *dzone box* i always love the cover for dzone showing 3 pictures of someone shooting at walls for no reason 4 Share this post Link to post
famicommander Posted September 18, 2019 14 hours ago, WadArchive said: or prices/demand goes up because those that had those system or games when they are younger want to go back and play them for nostalgic reasons. Or now have some disposable income to be able to buy the games when previously they didn't. why else are all the console companies producing mini consoles? I doubt it is because of the collectors out there You are apparently not into the classic game scene because most people don't play their mini consoles either. They buy them and put them on the shelf forever. If you check Atari Age, the same people buy the Flashback every single year and that thing barely changes its games lineup and the emulation is still ridiculously bad. They buy it, put it on the shelf, and the immediately start asking about box variants or special editions, if not next year's release. The Neo Geo Mini screwed up the button layout on their own damn system and half the people on the Neo Geo forums bought all the different regional variants and put them on the shelf forever. Seriously, to understand the scale of this screw up, imagine if on the Super Nintendo Mini they had switched the A for the B button and the X for the Y button. That's what they did on the Neo Geo Mini. And they put analog sticks instead of digital joysticks on a freaking 1990 arcade machine replica. The Playstation Mini is barely functional and people bought it. It emulates PS1 games MUCH worse than half a dozen other Sony devices (PSP, PS3, PS4, PS TV, PS2 [which actually uses hardware backwards compatibility). 0 Share this post Link to post
WadArchive Posted September 18, 2019 I am into collecting older games and systems. Those users on atariage and similar sites are still a small proportion of buyers of these mini systems. I agree that a lot will still end up on shelves collecting dust whether they are collectors or not for various reasons. However this is offtopic. @OneDoomedSpaceMarine I know for console boxes you can get protective cases for them so you might be able to find some for a big box. I should probably get some myself 0 Share this post Link to post
BabyGiggles Posted September 19, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 1:15 PM, geo said: Put it into dirt, water it every day and talk to it. Praise often works. thank you my guy 2 Share this post Link to post
CyberDreams Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) On 9/17/2019 at 3:52 PM, Linguica said: I have a Doom 2 box, and it's kinda beat up, but whatever. I store it on a shelf in a cupboard. It also has some markings on the front which makes it worthless? I forgot to mention that i love those markings btw ;) On 9/17/2019 at 8:42 PM, Doomkid said: I also have a VASTLY SUPERIOR box to linguica: -Only signed by Romero rather than the whole crew That fact that he signed that is funny and cool at the same time considering the fact that at the time id Software didn't like the shovelware companies releasing Doom content and released The Master Levels as a sort of retribution (or is that why you had him sign it, as a joke so to speak lol). On 9/17/2019 at 8:42 PM, Doomkid said: Oh I also intend to keep my Sigil box unopened for a long ass time like a proper crater-brained POS since I had already played it a bunch by the time the box arrived Haha, yeah. When i read through the Sigil thread i remember reading that your's took a long ass time to come but at least it showed up after all. If i would of ordered one i would of probably kept mine sealed as well, just for the hell of it. 2 Share this post Link to post
Doomkid Posted September 19, 2019 I actually got the box (already signed) in a mapping contest held by Buckshot! Never had a chance to meet or see any of the old id crew unfortunately, so I’m really lucky to have it. 1 Share this post Link to post
TwinBeast Posted September 19, 2019 Build a a little nest for it and feed implings for it until the first moulting. Then move onto adult imps and demon pups. 1 Share this post Link to post