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are there any unused sprites in doom 64 for the archvile and revenant?

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It doesn't seem to be the case as far as I am aware. All of the Doom 64 mods which bring the missing monsters back, either edit their own or grab them from other games.

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18 minutes ago, memes4lyfe said:

did sukru gilman release any unused sprites for the cut monsters in doom 64?

No, as I'm aware... no. I think some designs or sketches could have existed but I have a hunch they were scrapped from the beginning due to game memory. If there were some designs... I'd be glad to see them!!! I think Mother Demon was created because of the missing demons: She is female just like the Spider Demon, resurrected the demons just like the Arch Vile as well as having a flame attack and firing homing balls like the Revenant.

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On 9/23/2019 at 1:32 PM, Gerardo194 said:

No, as I'm aware... no. I think some designs or sketches could have existed but I have a hunch they were scrapped from the beginning due to game memory. If there were some designs... I'd be glad to see them!!! I think Mother Demon was created because of the missing demons: She is female just like the Spider Demon, resurrected the demons just like the Arch Vile as well as having a flame attack and firing homing balls like the Revenant.

Mother Demon I would argue is my favorite demon ever developed.  She is hardly mentioned in any lore, but is I think hardest boss fight in the series.

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5 hours ago, the_dude said:

Mother Demon I would argue is my favorite demon ever developed.  She is hardly mentioned in any lore, but is I think hardest boss fight in the series.

 

Indeed she is, nice to see more love for her.

 

In the classic Doom games, unless you have a fully upgraded Unmaker, she's definitely the toughest (and deadliest) boss.

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I remember when I first beat DOOM 64.  Hardest difficulty, and when I got to the final boss, beat it on my first try.  Atleast on the black cartridge, there was a gltich you could manipulate (I figured this out myself, Nintendo Power didn't mention it, that I remember), but there was a way you could ride on top of the flame wave she shoots out.  it's not on the direct center of it, but more on the edge, like on top of the hit box.

 

I also remember seeing somewhere that the original day 1 release of DOOM 64 black cart, was a lot harder then the grey cart, and any other releases of the game.

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I don’t think they ever intended on adding in those characters once the game was being developed past the drawing board. I think there are leftover sound effects from the PSX version that were used for the revenant which was in that version. I think they also had arch-vile sound effects recorded, but they were released later by Aubrey Hodges, the musician. None of that was for the N64 version, though. It was all leftovers for the PSX version. 

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The Mother-Demon is supposed to be a mutated arch-vile.

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7 hours ago, Gez said:

The Mother-Demon is supposed to be a mutated arch-vile.

Hmmm, the game and manual don´t imply that. To me , what the poster mentioned about an "Arch Vial" was a typo and I consider it an early idea before they came up with the Mother demon.

 

But, I'm sure Mother demon or Resurrector was created after a fusion between the Arch Vile, Revenant and Spider Mastermind = Revenant's homing rockets, resurrector powers and fire summoning like the Arch Vile and being a female entity amd boss like Spider Demon = Mother Demon.

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THE STORY SO FAR

 

The Past...

 

Your fatigue was enormous, the price for encountering pure evil. Hell was a place no mortal was meant to experience. Stupid military doctors: their tests and treatments, were of little help. In the end, what did it matter - it was all classified and sealed. The nightmares continued. Demons, so many Demons; relentless, pouring through.

 

Far Away...

 

The planetary policy was clear. An absolute quarantine was guaranteed by apocalyptic levels of radiation. The empty dark corridors stand motionless, abandoned. The installations sealed.

 

The Present...

 

A long forgotten relay satellite barely executing, decayed by years of bombarding neutrons, activates and sends its final message to Earth. The satellites message was horrific, from the planetary void there came energy signatures unlike anything sampled before.

 

The classified archives are opened. The military episodes code named "DOOM" were not actually completed. A single entity with vast rejuvenation powers, masked by the extreme radiation levels, escaped detection. In its crippled state, it systematically altered decaying dead carnage back into corrupted living tissue.

 

The mutations are devastating. The Demons have returned even stronger and more vicious than before. As the only experienced survivor of the DOOM episode, your commission is re-activated. Your assignment is clear: MERCILESS EXTERMINATION.

She's defined by doing what the arch-viles do, but mutated into getting super-powered. (They must have used Marvel/DC radiations instead of normal radiations.)

 

4 hours ago, Gerardo194 said:

being a female entity

I don't consider any of the Doom demons to be male or female, since they're supernatural entities generated ex nihilo by Hell instead of animal species.

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3 hours ago, Gez said:

She's defined by doing what the arch-viles do, but mutated into getting super-powered. (They must have used Marvel/DC radiations instead of normal radiations.)

 

I don't consider any of the Doom demons to be male or female, since they're supernatural entities generated ex nihilo by Hell instead of animal species.

Ughhhhhh... I have read the story so far many times and the ending says: The Mother of all demons, not an Arch Vile... I don't care about shitty Marvel/DC things...

 

Well, you consider that, but the game manual states Spider Mastermind is female, other think Cacodemon is female for having a pussy...

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24 minutes ago, Gerardo194 said:

Well, you consider that, but the game manual states Spider Mastermind is female

Not really.

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You guess the Arachnotrons had to come from somewhere. Hi, mom.

It's more a joke than an actual statement.

Doom II manual also say of the Baron of Hell that he's "Big Daddy", so does that make of them the fathers of all demons?

30 minutes ago, Gerardo194 said:

other think Cacodemon is female for having a pussy

If they think that's a pussy, the porn they watch must be really weird, and definitely not filmed.

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24 minutes ago, Gez said:

Doom II manual also say of the Baron of Hell that he's "Big Daddy", so does that make of them the fathers of all demons?

If an Arch Vile became the Mother of all demons, then yes--

 

26 minutes ago, Gez said:

If they think that's a pussy, the porn they watch must be really weird, and definitely not filmed.

You're right... they are weird thinking that, even what some draw..

To me, what Cacodemon has two holes to shit Marine flesh...

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11 hours ago, Dark Pulse said:

Conclusion from this thread: Hellspawn makes you horny.

 

 

That's all folks...

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