I made a really hard wad

[Charbomber]

Alright, so one day (and by that I mean today) I was up, and I thought, "Hey, you know what I should do? I should make an invisible death maze in DooM using voodoo dolls." So that's what I did. You are in a laboratory, there is no visual queues, all you have is an invisible death maze and a very scared voodoo doll in a chamber behind you. To enter the Underhalls, you must get through. Good luck soldier.

The Maze.zip


Welp, people want screenshots, so I'll put them here.

 

It's a room

 

 

It's literally JUST a room.

 

 

Here's the voodoo doll room if you're interested for some reason but are too lazy to noclip out there.

More notes include that although this was TESTED on GZDooM, this should theoretically work on literally EVERYTHING because it just uses crushers and voodoo dolls. And same goes for game, tested in DooM 2, but I think the textures are also in DooM 1, so it's fine as long as you use a DooM game.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 17, 2019 by Charbomber : whoopsies x2

[PeceMan]

made a demo.

 

The Maze.rar

 

Too easy.

 

[Charbomber]

3 minutes ago, PeceMan said:

made a demo.

 

The Maze.rar

 

Too easy.

 

I am convinced that you either have no life or you cheated by editing the map and recording a demo of it.

Probably both.

I congratulate you either way though!

[Charbomber]

5 minutes ago, PeceMan said:

made a demo.

 

The Maze.rar

 

Too easy.

 

god fucking dammit I just checked the demo

[Jello]

` god

or

` noclip

 

Done.

 

I mean, it's a fun idea. But if you're not going to put any effort into making visual or sound cues, or putting in death traps, I'm not putting in any effort either.

Edited December 17, 2019 by Jello

[Charbomber]

I WAS gonna specify to not use cheats, but NOOO, I had to forget and now here we are.

[Juza]

Could you update the post with any screenshots, and add more info on the wad overall? 

Edit: Actually... why did you even bother making and publishing this? This map couldn't have taken you more than 5 minutes to make.

[xvertigox]

 

[Charbomber]

12 minutes ago, xvertigox said:

 

Thank you, I always forget that post, and I will ALWAYS forget that post whenever I submit a wad.

[xvertigox]

Just now, Charbomber said:

I always forget that post, and I will ALWAYS forget that post whenever I submit a wad.

 

Don't if you want anyone to ever play your maps.

[Charbomber]

Just now, xvertigox said:

 

Don't if you want anyone to ever play your maps.

It's not like I forget on purpose, it's that I can never seem to remember that SPECIFIC one every single time I do (which has been like five times so far, and two of them were meme/terry wads I made when I was a dumb fuck so...).

[xvertigox]

I'll give you some actual feedback on this wad based on the screenshots and description.

1. I like that you're thinking out of the box and playing around with various effects.

 

2. An invisible death maze is a bad idea, there's no way for the player to know how to get through it without trial an error. There's 0 fun in that.

 

3. The map has no lighting differences in it, you could have made the 'death' part of the maze flicker or be darker or something.

 

4. No detailing, the map is just a square with nothing interesting in it. It's excessively boring.

 

This is basically a test/concept map that should not have been released as a standalone. You should use this explore gameplay concepts that you can later use. Invisible mazes suck, maybe make the damaging part lowered and use a nukeage flat.

 

 

[JustCallMeKaito]

2 hours ago, Charbomber said:

I should make an invisible death maze in DooM

 

[Charbomber]

Just now, xvertigox said:

I'll give you some actual feedback on this wad based on the screenshots and description.

1. I like that you're thinking out of the box and playing around with various effects.

 

2. An invisible death maze is a bad idea, there's no way for the player to know how to get through it without trial an error. There's 0 fun in that.

 

3. The map has no lighting differences in it, you could have made the 'death' part of the maze flicker or be darker or something.

 

4. No detailing, the map is just a square with nothing interesting in it. It's excessively boring.

 

This is basically a test/concept map that should not have been released as a standalone. You should use this explore gameplay concepts that you can later use. Invisible mazes suck, maybe make the damaging part lowered and use a nukeage flat.

 

 

I know. I didn't intend for the map to be fun. Y'know those Mario Maker stages people make where they try to make the stupidest combination lock? I tried to make something like that. Interesting, but stupid as hell. Also more decoration isn't happening because I suck at decoration as it is.

[xvertigox]

Just now, Charbomber said:

I know. I didn't intend for the map to be fun.

Then don't release it, what's the point at all if the map is not intended to be fun.

 

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Also more decoration isn't happening because I suck at decoration as it is.

 

Then you need to practice. You can't expect to get better without trying. Outside of making purposefully shovelware style maps there is no niche that is barren of any detailing or effort.

[Charbomber]

Just now, xvertigox said:

Then don't release it, what's the point at all if the map is not intended to be fun.

 

 

Then you need to practice. You can't expect to get better without trying. Outside of making purposefully shovelware style maps there is no niche that is barren of any detailing or effort.

I like to think the map is more fun to look at in the editor? If that makes any sense. It was more of a test with voodoo dolls, and yeah I probably shouldn't of released it, but I thought it would be fun to see what people would make of it I guess???

[GarrettChan]

Hmm, according to the screenshots, it feels not as fun as Chasm.

 

↓ @Perdition666 Oops. Sorry.

Edited December 18, 2019 by GarrettChan

[Perdition666]

1 minute ago, GarrettChan said:

Hmm, according to the screenshots, it feels not as fun as Chasm.

That’s a bit harsh, It’s not fair to compare Chasm to this.

[DynamiteKaitorn]

Well apart from the fact only 1 linedef was truly invisible, this was easy, mostly due to 1 rather stupidly obvious oversight. Auto-map. ._.

[Charbomber]

Just now, DynamiteKaitorn said:

Well apart from the fact only 1 linedef was truly invisible, this was easy, mostly due to 1 rather stupidly obvious oversight. Auto-map. ._.

No? In my testing only one was visible, but only because you could tell from the automap not showing the lines behind it because you're facing in front of you.

[Super Mighty G]

3 hours ago, Charbomber said:

I know. I didn't intend for the map to be fun. 

[Juza]

3 hours ago, Charbomber said:

I didn't intend for the map to be fun.

[Nine Inch Heels]

5 hours ago, Charbomber said:

literally EVERYTHING

It literally doesn't because the map appears to be in UDMF format

[Boomslang]

bro... this is like.. sad... you have some potential, but instead you decide not to make it fun.....

 

 

here's a better idea, instead of a poopy invisible maze, it could be a layer of rooms (kinda like this one in the current map i'm making or something) you could explore a maze of rooms, each getting more dangerous, some containing traps in which the player may or may not escape.

 

please, try to put effort in your maps, i'm a complete newbie at this, but i don't want to put out some troll level.

[[Vitz!]]

You know something is wrong when way too many people are giving attention to a random guy saying he made "wow super hard wad" while others post more serious content and get straight up ignored. 

Btw I sense some really low quality bait in this topic and wad, so I'll pass and play something else, thank you.

[Dubbag]

3 hours ago, [Vitz!] said:

You know something is wrong when way too many people are giving attention to a random guy saying he made "wow super hard wad" while others post more serious content and get straight up ignored. 

Btw I sense some really low quality bait in this topic and wad, so I'll pass and play something else, thank you.

THANK YOU! Exactly what I've been thinking.

[Mk7_Centipede]

you are doing it wrong.  just add more cyberdemons and revenants and archviles to make a hard level.

[Pablo_Doom_Guy]

it's not hard , its just boring , a trial and error map is far away from being fun or challenging . 

[Juza]

@[Vitz!] I wouldn't call him a troll. I'd rather not embarrass anyone, but I've seen him in Doom servers and from his posts he's clearly a very young fella. I'm sure he didn't mean any harm with this level.

[TheNoob_Gamer]

3 hours ago, [Vitz!] said:

Btw I sense some really low quality bait in this topic and wad,

He's definitely not baiting, just an impatience person who is eager to release any playable thing he made.