Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker is a bad movie

[Linguica]

Just saw it and good lord it was terrible. It might actually be the worst out of all of them. Just a complete fiasco.

[joepallai]

thanks for the heads up

[spineapple tea]

I'm seeing it tomorrow morning with my dad for his birthday. Slightly scared now.

[Nine Inch Heels]

"I am all the terrible!"

 

-TRoS

 

:P

 

EDIT: For the record, I didn't watch it myself, but my wife did, and she said to me that she isn't going to watch another StarWars movie in the future. Now I am making cupcakes for her... Go figure...

[VanaheimRanger]

Would you say it was "So bad that it's good" or just "So bad that it's bad"?

[SaladBadger]

I guess JJ Abrams's "fuck it" didn't exactly pay off in the end, did it. Feels like the series is cursed. Try to go into new territory, end up writing complete nonsense like the prequels and perhaps TLJ. In response to this, they say "fuck it", try course correcting back to the presumed "safe" old content, somehow manage to fuck that up.

 

I half want to see it just to see how badly they fucked up, but I also don't want to throw money at it, soooo...

[Linguica]

2 minutes ago, guitardz said:

Would you say it was "So bad that it's good" or just "So bad that it's bad"?

 

You know how every hack action movie of the 2010s had a climax where the bad guy shoots a scary energy beam up into the sky for some reason? Star Wars episode 9's climax features the bad guy shooting a scary energy beam up into the sky for some reason.

[Linguica]

The Leia scenes are awful. It is clear they had like a dozen unused lines from Ep7/8 and they tried to construct scenes around the lines, but even then, nearly everything Leia says is a non sequitur that the film tries to give pointless gravitas to. The worst part is that even while watching, I couldn't help but think, oh right, Carrie Fisher is actually dead, and this is all they had to work with, and I should maybe not be so critical because after all Carrie Fisher fucking died, and none of that is something I should be actively thinking about while watching a new Star Wars movie for the first time.

[VanaheimRanger]

8 minutes ago, Linguica said:

Star Wars episode 9's climax features the bad guy shooting a scary energy beam up into the sky for some reason.

That's my fetish...

[Vorpal]

Force Awakens was so bad that it was at least entertaining to make fun of during, but the second movie was in its own category of unwatchable badness. Definitely avoiding this one completely.

 

At least Solo was excellent, thanks netflix free trial \o/

[Mk7_Centipede]

so they basically retconned luke's entire story.

 

there is a pretty big tonal shift in going from shakespeare adaptation to a company that doesnt know an eu exists.

Edited December 21, 2019 by Mk7_Centipede

[unerxai]

I'm not the biggest SW fan, in fact my favorite part of the franchise are the old Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games and the Mr. Plinkett reviews. Hell I haven't even watched Episode II or III other than some scenes on Youtube.

 

That being said these were my thoughts when watching Ep. IX:

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-Palpatine unleashing his newly maxed out Force Lightning powers through the sky was a beautiful spectacle. Hightlight of the movie for me.

 

-Palpatine having children I thought it was dumb. He's too evil and cool to be the dad (or grandpa) of someone. Maybe he created them with the force (heh).

 

-Orange lightsaber? Fucking awesome (Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith memories).

 

-Heh.

 

 

[Avoozl]

I really don't enjoy disney star wars.

[elend]

Saw it yesterday and yes... it was quite bad. The Last Jedi at least had some imho really amazing space battles but Rise of Skywalker didn't even deliver in this regard. Very underwhelming ending. :(

[Doomkid]

Flaming hot take: The best thing to come out of the Star Wars property by a wide margin are the many excellent video games and the incredible soundtrack. The actual films range from "pretty darn good" to "unwatchable dreck" and all but 3 are in the latter category.

[Joshy]

I didn't mind it but I had very low expectations. To be honest I'm not sure they could have done the last movie any better, especially with Carrie's death. The whole trilogy went wrong as soon as they started writing each episodes individually and separately without any overarching coordinated plans. You can't have different directors coming up with their own visions and expect the episodes to meld. The ridiculous weight of the Skywalker mythology in addition does not help, there are way too many expectations to deal with that you're going to invariably rub many people the wrong way. The story would've had a better chance if they had a long term vision, wrote the entire trilogy plot line altogether and then split them into three in a coordinated manner. Better yet, start a new trilogy from scratch. If they pulled it off with Rogue One and the Mandalorian, there's hope yet.

[hybridial]

And I think the soundtrack is rather overrated :P

 

My take, the original 3 movies are nice kids movies, there were some pretty great videogames made based on the property but probably from the day The Phantom Menace dropped it's been nothing but inept, or when Disney came into it, soulless product that has been fuelled by the flames of fanboys that really need to grow up or at least finding something cooler to be into, like John Carpenter movies, or Doom. :p 

[DMPhobos]

The best way i can describe episode 9 is... desperate

I didn't hated it, and kinda liked some elements of it, but man this movie is a mess, the plot is super rushed and tries so hard to undo a lot of stuff from episode 8, introduces lots of stuff out of nowhere, and palpatine returning as the main villain feels... well.... desperate. Leia scenes are quite bad, the characters say something to her, deliver all the exposition and she just replies a small sentence or two... there's not a lot they could do about it due to carrie fisher's tragic death, imo they should had written the character out of the film and acknowledged leia passed away during the time between 8 and 9.

Say what you will about the prequels, bad dialogue and bad cgi and all that, but watching all the movies from 1 to 3 you can tell there's a bigger picture and the story is moving towards a certain direction. But the new trilogy uh.... it first remakes a new hope, then follows with a weird 2nd act that's a big middle finger to the previous trilogy and then goes 'fuck it', tries to reverts everything and hopes for the best. It's messy, really messy and feels desperate at times

[elend]

Oh god and I hated the

Spoiler

CGI young Leia

 cameo. Looked utterly horrendous and I wish Hollywood would stop already with this shit. 

[xdarkmasterx]

I personally think it sounds wonderful. i fully expect the next trilogy to live up to the lofty standards of this latest outing

 

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hopefully Vader comes back and is evil again, with no explanaation of course, that would ruin the mystery

 

[warman2012]

 

4 hours ago, Linguica said:

 

You know how every hack action movie of the 2010s had a climax where the bad guy shoots a scary energy beam up into the sky for some reason? Star Wars episode 9's climax features the bad guy shooting a scary energy beam up into the sky for some reason.

Didn't Doom 2016 do this?

[Doominator2]

I never understood the mass appeal of Star Wars. Sure there fun and exciting movies but thats it, I can think of so many other movies that are equally fun and exciting yet Star Wars is the series that gets the most recognition.

[Mr. Freeze]

oh man where to begin

 

- Palpatine being revealed as alive in the opening text crawl lmao nice nonchalant way of telling us that JJ

 

- first half of the film is fucking breakneck paced

 

- entire film feels like a rebutall of TLJ, giving the FUCKING LAST MOVIE OF A THREE-TRILOGY SAGA a completely disjointed feel. there is absolutely nothing connecting these movies except for Rey and Kylo's relationship

 

- nice job writing Rose out and turning her into a background character JJ

 

- the gay kiss had less screentime than the guy hugging a space slug

 

- CGI Leia was creepy

 

- It's NOT fine that Rey is a Palpatine. I liked in TLJ that she was a literal nobody who rose above her upbringing to become a badass force user, now it's DUDE EMPRESS LMAO

 

- this also implies that either A: Sheev rawdogged someone or B: Kylo and Rey are cousins

 

- Palpatine's plan is ELEVENTY BILLION STAR DESTROYERS lmaoooo what a fucking tired idea

 

- they kill chewie only to not kill him. feels like they made a mistake and forgot to edit it out in the second draft

 

- palpatine can level an entire fleet with his hands, why he does this at no other point in the series lmao idunno

 

- snoke being a palpatine creation and then showing five snokes crammed into a test tube made me burst out laughing in the theater

 

- chewie getting a medal is pure dumb fanservice. who the fuck cares about the dumb medal fuck off JJ

 

- the death star II is somehow intact after clearly exploding??????

 

- evil imposter Rey attacks the real Rey and then vanishes into nothing. Rey doesn't comment on it either. 

 

- rey steals the skywalker name after stealing a droid that isn't hers and buries luke and leia's lightsabers on a planet they both hated, at an abandoned farm where luke's adoptive uncle and aunt were brutally murdered

 

- very last shot is a recreation of another shot in the series. fucking 99% of everything cool in this film was done somewhere else

 

I could go on and on and on. What a dumb way to end Star Wars. 

Edited December 21, 2019 by Mr. Freeze

[R1ck]

it's mediocre. not good, not bad. just mediocre until I saw the part where they trying to be appealing for some alphabets community.

 

look, I'm all for being gay and shit because I don't care but if they want to make the casts gay they should've been do it since ep7 as long as the backstory is good :/

[seed]

Why am I not surprised to see this topic, I wonder.

 

Anyway, there definitely are things I wish they wouldn't have done, mainly the fact that they brought back Palpatine, I mean come on couldn't they think of something else? And Rey being a Palpatine was not surprising either, if they put him in the movie why not I guess. They killed off Ben so quickly as well, so long for his character...

 

There's definitely plenty of WTF moments in this movie, a conclusion to the saga I frankly never expected to see coming to pass, so hopefully they'll try harder to come up with original ideas in the next series (because there's obviously going to be another at some point), as this one started promising, then went creatively bankrupt later on. But despite its major flaws, I still liked it, somehow. Then again, I don't have a problem with new SW and I generally like it (prequel trilogy included), unlike hardcore "fans" who appear to worship the original trilogy and hate everything that succeeded it.

[FractalBeast]

I assumed that it would be a horrible film when I heard JJ Abrams would be rolling back all the interesting shit from TLJ.

 

TFA was meh because it was just more Star Wars. I did enjoy TLJ because it was as iconoclastic as Obsidian's KOTOR 2, the Force being a blind idiot energy that doesn't care if it heals or kills, and how useless Sith and Jedi are. I'll just watch TRS when it comes to Disney+ eventually... maybe.

[cannonball]

Personally I am not going to see this, the last Jedi really did me in to be honest. The main series has in general been rather poor. I mean I enjoyed the Force Awakens when it came out. It was a huge event, but when broken down it was just a homage to the earlier films.

However, the Disney era did do some good work, Rogue one was a fantastic film in my opinion and despite the hate I saw, I actually enjoyed Solo. It feels like some of the film in the void films between the prequels and original trilogy were worth the time and effort.

Edited December 21, 2019 by cannonball

[The_SloVinator]

Shocking! A Star Wars movie that is terrible?! No way!

[Mr. Freeze]

14 minutes ago, cannonball said:

 I mean I enjoyed the Force Awakens when it came out. It was a huge event, but when broken down it was just a homage to the earlier films.

 

Rogue one was a fantastic film 

 

what the fuck

[Tango]

i had a good time