Dubbag Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) Think of the series like this. (just made this up now). Dying and dying over and over and fighting through infinite amounts of WADS is one mans own personal Black Mirror-like Hell. The Doomguy is alive in the fact that he is 1's and 0's, like human cells by comparison. And multiple cells make an organism.This digital suffering man has a human conscience brain determining it's movements, but at the same time is unconscious. His suffering is the false illusion of choice. No matter what he does, he will NEVER escape. Because he CAN'T escape. And he has no idea...He is nothing but a digital marionette with programed reactions to pain and death but no longer any REAL physical conception of it or who he himself is. He knows nothing but suffering. Mean while, the person in his mind, that human part, seems to be having fun, and he has no idea who it is but it's his only motivation. Suffering through the ignorance of knowledge outside his own world of pain and isolation and loneliness. Fight, die, fight die, there is no in between. Edited December 28, 2019 by Dubbagdarrel 1 Share this post Link to post
Mk7_Centipede Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) hell is an alternate dimension. the demons are basically aliens. reminded me of aliens and predator movies. Edited December 28, 2019 by Mk7_Centipede 0 Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted December 28, 2019 17 hours ago, HorrorMovieGuy said: For instance, the first time a Harbinger of Doom was defeated(In wolfenstein RPG), BJ ripped out it's arm and it's leg. He returned to hell, with living proof of his defeat. Over time, the mysterious powers behind hell's existence began to change and improve the Harbinger type demons. Where that first specimen was wounded, the powers that be began slowly replacing said limbs of future harbingers with more and more metal, until it became a full on rocket launcher, no doubt taking pointers from what they observed from human technology too. Man, demons are noobs. You don't reinforce the damaged parts on the demons that returned alive, since you know these parts are not necessary for their survival. You reinforce the undamaged parts. 1 Share this post Link to post
The_MártonJános Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) Not sure if it counts as a "headcanon", but in 2005, I had a DLC of a total four episodes (4 to 7 - not knowing about Ultimate Doom yet) laid out on checkered spiral notebook pages. Too bad they didn't reflect on actual worthy gameplay, as they succeeded a "total replacement" of the entirety of Wolf3D, and were designed in a similar vein (door-heavy and mostly super linear layouts, confined areas, etc.) Edited May 3, 2020 by Cell 1 Share this post Link to post
Maximum Matt Posted December 28, 2019 And just to be sure, the Doom Slayer will literally have a 'head cannon' in the upcoming game, right? 0 Share this post Link to post
RonnieJamesDiner Posted December 28, 2019 Some Doom headcanon I've always had was that Spectres are just Pinkies that have been mutated by the green nukage waste, and that's how they became fuzzy or "partially invisible". I mostly thought this because Spectres almost always seem to be used in or around nukage (I'm guessing it's because the animated texture just helps them blend in and disappear a bit better). 3 Share this post Link to post
Maximum Matt Posted December 28, 2019 Or they're pinkies who ran into/ate a blur sphere 6 Share this post Link to post
The_MártonJános Posted December 29, 2019 20 hours ago, Maximum Matt said: And just to be sure, the Doom Slayer will literally have a 'head cannon' in the upcoming game, right? Oh gee. 7 Share this post Link to post
Gokuma Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) Like this guy?:http://blog.uofmuscle.com/35602/muscle-figure-121/ This guy?:http://blog.uofmuscle.com/31027/muscle-figure-175/ Or this guy?: Or this?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBGcxuRnAPc 1 Share this post Link to post
Scypek2 Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) The hole Doomguy starts E3M1 in is a crater he made after he fell off the edge of Deimos and the squishy intestine floor broke his fall. 9 Share this post Link to post
Gokuma Posted January 10, 2020 When I sneeze... It registers on the Richter scale. 1 Share this post Link to post
SlayerOGames666 Posted January 10, 2020 On 12/26/2019 at 11:19 AM, Tammuz said: What do you personally imagine about the DOOM universe that isn't explicitly stated from any official source? Contradictions to the official sources are allowed (i fear that my own fantasies do exactly this, so i'm taking precautions). I always imagine that ''former human'' demons are actually all possessed by lost souls - their ethereal nature lending themselves well to ''possession'', and their name implies that they're searching for a ''home'' to inhabit. I also imagine that health over 100% functions as some sort of 'shield', lasting until the player is susceptible to damage. To me, SS Nazis feel like that Hitler struck a deal with the Cyberdemon/Icon of Sin/Spider Mastermind, etc, etc. and its that if the demons get to ravage earth, mars, etc. the Nazis get to 1. have a piece of their land, 2. Get to try and kill DoomGuy, and 3. They keep copies of suicidal Commander Keens hostage. Also, i think that Doomguy is a grown up Commander Keen. 0 Share this post Link to post
Castelia Posted January 10, 2020 I imagine that the demons all know that John Romero's head is the true Icon of Sin. If they ever want to consult him about something, they have to yeet themselves into the brain cavity. Maybe they initially thought the big demon was the Icon, but someone uncovered that it was essentially just a head piloting a big mech and they all just accepted it. 0 Share this post Link to post
idbeholdME Posted January 10, 2020 My main universe/timeline is: Doom 1, 2, 3, Plutonia and TNT. Everything else is a different universe/timeline. Doom 3 starts it with a teleportation experiment gone wrong. You play as a different Marine from the main one and basically get to experience how it all began. A megalomaniac leading a teleportation research project. The rest is a different Marine. All the way from Doom 1 to Plutonia/TNT, it is one and the same guy. If I had to go into detail: Episode 1 starts with all hell breaking loose on Phobos. Unbeknownst to the marine why this is happening (events of Doom 3) he does what he does best and starts eliminating the hostiles. It ends with him going into the teleporter corrupted by the demons (Phobos Anomaly). It momentarily teleports him straight into hell where he is nearly killed just as the teleportation process completes and appears on Deimos. He was stripped of most of his weapons (the same way the marine in Doom 3 got his weapons removed when he teleported to hell). Episode 2 begins with patching himself up with what little he had left (100% health) ends with him having to jump down from Deimos onto hell's surface. He has to discard most of his stuff to make himself lighter and survive the fall. Episode 3 ends with killing the Mastermind responsible for taking over the moon bases and then enters the teleporter that is revealed, once again getting most of his equipment stripped by using a demon corrupted teleporter. Episode 4 has him start in an already established Hell's outpost on Earth where the armies are amassing. He fights his way through to the second Mastermind, tasked with supervising the preparations for invasion of Earth. Marine kills it but not before the invasion had started. Doom 2 happens. Including the clean-up job of killing a Cyberdemon leading the last remnants of demons on Earth (No Rest For the Living). Then Plutonia. Marine storms the complex and diffuses the situation even before reinforcements manage arrive/catch up with him. Then 2 years after it all started, UAC decides to send a team back to Mars (Resurrection of Evil). The guy you play as is a different one from the other 2. Then TNT some time later. Humanity now has an outpost on Io and the Marine is given command of the garrison there when things go wrong. But yet again, he emerges victorious. And it ends here for me. Some notes: - Former Humans are possessed by Lost Souls, not undead. - Demons are basically just beings from another dimension, which UAC tapped into accidentally through teleportation research. - There is no ancient Doom Slayer or whatever. Just a regular badass marine that saved the day multiple times. And the guy from Doom 3 and Resurrection of Evil I guess. 3 Share this post Link to post
kinker31 Posted January 14, 2020 I've always seen Doomguy as the sort of marine that fluctuates between "Rippingest and Tearingest Guy in the Whole Goddamn Galaxy" and "How do I get these hip and modern kids to accept our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ?", and that the Master Levels and Final Doom is just Doomguy getting so pissed off at hell he ditches home just to head back to Mars/UAC just to stop more demon douchery from happening. There's also my headcanon that he has a twin related-relative called H-Doomguy, a less celibate, well, twin of Doomguy who lives in a parallel realm (which is called HDoom, appropriately enough) where all the demons are succubi and various other demons of lewdery. They don't get along all too well. I'd also imagine all the heroes of the Samara mod just sorta living together in one big house, the loosely defined, mostly-in-my-head verse being as follows: Doomguy would be the demon-tearing marine who'd try to also be the pastor of the whole household, Corvus and Parias would be "these two guys", so to speak, doing all sorts of crazy mage/magician stuff, maybe, Chex Warrior would be the science-obsessed nerd of the group (Like Me! ...Sorta), always wanting to find out more about the group's weaponry, their bestiaries, and really just being the sort of person to science hard, and after that, science again, Duke Nukem would be the shameless flirt who'd totally try to do as many cool and badass things as possible, 'cause chicks love cool dudes, right? It would be pretty funny seeing him be a hilariously cute dork when he actually does get some chicks, though B. J would sorta be the cool grandpa of the group, being a combination of the only one who'd be the only one sane enough to not fall for the group's shenanigans, and "How the heck does any of this modern computer stuff work, MS-DOS was already hard enough for me to figure out" The Security Offer of Marathon Fame would totally be the one to not have enough fucks to give, and would probably hang out with Quake's Ranger, who also just sorta does his own thing. I'd also imagine there'd be a much bigger, less organized house for all the extra heroes that Samara-EXHC adds in. One can only imagine all the chaos that goes on in there. A lot of stuff blowing up, I'd bet. 0 Share this post Link to post
Koko Ricky Posted January 14, 2020 I think of the Icon of Sin as being the creator and possibly sole player of a demonic chess board. It finds inhabited worlds and alters them to its whim, i.e. corrupting environments, transforming humans, and spawning living drones (the demons) to launch attacks. The specificity of these variables is contingent on the fears of the inhabitants, so in the case of humans the aesthetic is very much in line with our nightmares and depictions of Hell. There's no literal Satan at work here, although the technology the IOS wields is beyond our understanding to the point of appearing supernatural. The "why" of it isn't particularly important; the IOS is a sadist who loves to be entertained and that's really all the motivation needed. 0 Share this post Link to post
Allard Posted January 14, 2020 I always hated the notion of Doom Slayer being the same being as the Classic Doomguy. IMO, it all should go like this: There are four timelines overall: The Classic timeline: DOOM 1 > SIGIL > DOOM II > NRFTL > Master Levels > TNT > Plutonia > 64 > Quake III The first three are fairly straightforward. NRFTL and the Master Levels are all about the Doom Marine going back from Hell. TNT and Plutonia follow. He decides to stay in Hell at the end of D64 up until dimensional shenanigans pull him out to engage in some fragging. The Dark timeline: DOOM 3 / Lost Mission > ROE Fairly straightforward and self-explanatory. Three different doomguys across two invasions. The VIOS timeline: DOOM RPG > DOOM II RPG Two brothers, Billy and Stan Blazkowicz end up saving the world from demonic hordes. The Slayer timeline: DOOM '16 > Eternal > ??? Largely unrelated, though parallel to the previous ones. The Doom Slayer is obviously a humanoid extradimensional alien that is super pissed at yet another dimension's inhabitants being stupid enough to tinker with Hell's forces. Luckily for them, he hates Hell way more. In Quake Champions the doomguys from all timelines are merged into one being that can shift between their pesonalities and appearances. The Classic skin is actually Stan, seeing as the Classic Doomguy moved onto Q3 (and is represented by that skin instead). Of the DOOM 3 guys, only the main game Doomguy (helmet off) and the Bravo marine (helmet on) are represented. The Engineer is curiously left out. So yeah. Sorta like that. 0 Share this post Link to post