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DaDoomGuy

Alternatives to GZDoomBuilder_BugFix/Ultimate Doom Builder?

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So I made a post about 1.5-ish weeks ago telling everyone that GZDBBF and UDB can't save maps, as it gives out an error message with no way to fix it (maybe my OS is corrupted but idk)

 

So with that being said, is there a good Doom map editor that's powerful as hell out there as a good worthy alternative to UDB/GZDB? I know there is Doom Builder 2 and Doom Builder X, but those use the same code as GZDB and UDB, which means it will give out the same save error message for me. I would also say Slade's built in map editor, but that isn't as advanced, powerful, or fun to use as the other options.

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5 minutes ago, DaDoomGuy said:

I made a post

 

Where? Why no link?

 

6 minutes ago, DaDoomGuy said:

error message

 

Which one? Why no quotes of this message?

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If you do not know about alternative editors then you have not been

reading posts other than those for your specific needs.

Try EUREKA or Slade3, Deepsea (no UDMF, ZSCRIPT), or,  if you map for original games format only, Wadauthor.

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So you want something that's just like UDB features-wise, SLADE is definitely not "powerful and fun enough", but that's not from the Doom Builder family.

 

Well, you're shit out of luck then.

 

Tell you what, give DBX a try anyway, because while UDB is a direct descendant of GZDB-BF, UDB is more like a distant uncle.

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I feel instead of searching for an alternative that does not exist (Because really, an editor that is UDB features wise but is not actually UDB, eh?) the initial problem should be solved instead.

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Can't really help you with that DoomBuilder problem, I'd say go and test if the save function really doesn't work with anything based on DB's code.

Alternatively, you should try Eureka, it's easy, simple, and it's way too lightweight.

You may find SLADE really useful too, you know, because of the double function as wad/map editor

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7 hours ago, Deⓧiaz said:

 

Where? Why no link?

 

 

Which one? Why no quotes of this message?

Basically, GZDBBF/UDB had an error message when I saved after the 1st save. I tried everything and nothing could fix it.

 

6 hours ago, Kappes Buur said:

If you do not know about alternative editors then you have not been

reading posts other than those for your specific needs.

Try EUREKA or Slade3, Deepsea (no UDMF, ZSCRIPT), or,  if you map for original games format only, Wadauthor.

I'm downloading EUREKA right now, I hope it works well. I'm not choosing Deepsea or Wadauthor, since it's for original wads, has no script support, etc. Also the SLADE editor is very limited compared to the rest.

 

4 hours ago, Gez said:

So you want something that's just like UDB features-wise, SLADE is definitely not "powerful and fun enough", but that's not from the Doom Builder family.

 

Well, you're shit out of luck then.

 

Tell you what, give DBX a try anyway, because while UDB is a direct descendant of GZDB-BF, UDB is more like a distant uncle.

I will also get Doom Builder X, and if that doesn't work, I will continue to research about the save issue, or if EUREKA turns out to be a great map editor, I will use that. It depends, but thanks for your suggestion!

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UPDATE:

 

Tired out EUREKA, but it felt weird after using it for about 10 min so I gave up, sorry.

 

I downloaded DBX, and it actually works (meaning it can save properly instead of giving out an error), albeit it feels a little bit wonky to use, even though it's the same as GZDBBF/UDB (prob because making squares is not available, only drawing lines)

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