How do DOOM 2 deaths work?

[Chip]

Watch this video of death animations in DOOM 2.

 

I'm confused about some of the death animations.

 

• what weapon would cause the chaingunner to explode like that? Because, a rocket would make him explode not split, and a chainsaw would not be powerful enough to make that. Did they have a certain weapon in mind to kill the Chaingunner with?
• why do Lost souls explode?
• the same question as Chaingunner, but for Caco
• why after the Mancubus's headshot, would she melt?  
• And finally, why would Our Hero (DOOMGUY) have a slit throat? no enemy would be tall enough to hit him there that would cause his neck to bleed (except reverent, but punches wouldn't cut somebodies throat) and the fireballs/hitscan weapons/rockets wouldn't cause your neck to bleed. Also, the Spectre/Demon would not bite your throat. 

[Deimos]

You'd have to make multiple sprites to fit every type of damage, that's a lot of work and space...
Edit: Variety was also a factor for the odd choices i guess

Edited May 3, 2020 by Deimos

[DSC]

Doom isn't supposed to be a realistic game.

[Deimos]

1 minute ago, DSC said:

Doom isn't supposed to be a realistic game.

It was not that goofy on purpose either. It's just old

[Pegg]

They were drawn like that. No other logic needed.

[Chip]

1 minute ago, Pegg said:

They were drawn like that. No other logic needed.

I get that, but why?

[kristus]

15 minutes ago, Deimos said:

It was not that goofy on purpose either. It's just old

Actually is was.

https://romero.smugmug.com/Video-Games/The-Archives/i-8djkVsC/

"Here's Greg's model of the Revenant for DOOM II. He's a favorite of mine because I just LOVE the punching sound - it makes me laugh every time! Yes, I made sure the sound made me laugh. :)"

[Deimos]

2 minutes ago, kristus said:

Actually is was.

https://romero.smugmug.com/Video-Games/The-Archives/i-8djkVsC/

"Here's Greg's model of the Revenant for DOOM II. He's a favorite of mine because I just LOVE the punching sound - it makes me laugh every time! Yes, I made sure the sound made me laugh. :)"

I was talking bout death animations being so specific. Not about the tone of the game.
Even the tone is subject to interpretation.

[Deleted_Account]

No monster is tall enough to hit the Doomguy in the throat? lol wut. Imps and Barons can easily slash his throat with their claws. Revenants are known to throat punch their victims. You don't know what your talking about. Git gud scrub.

[Deimos]

20 minutes ago, LiT_gam3r said:

I get that, but why?

Variety is my guess, if they all die the same way by dropping it gets boring

[DynamiteKaitorn]

[1] - The super shotgun

[2] - Because mind = literally blown

[3] - See answer  1

[4] - Because I used a plasma rifle on them (are Mancubuses female?)

[5] - Imps are nearly identical height to the player and have spikes on their body as well as claws. Barons/Hell Knights also have a scratch attack and are much taller than the marine.

[Deimos]

Just now, DynamiteKaitorn said:

[4] - Because I used a plasma rifle on them (are Mancubuses female?)

huehuehue how did i miss that? Can't unsee now :o

[Job]

1 hour ago, LiT_gam3r said:

I'm confused about some of the death animations.

• why after the Mancubus's headshot, would she melt?  

The mancubus is actually composed of human corpses sutured together. When a fatal blow is made, the foundation stitch comes undone, effectively unraveling the body. 

[Chip]

 

 

 

 

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49 minutes ago, User Name said:

No monster is tall enough to hit the Doomguy in the throat? lol wut. Imps and Barons can easily slash his throat with their claws. 

I forgot they had that scratch ability. 

 

 

 

 

 

50 minutes ago, User Name said:

Revenants are known to throat punch their victims. 

I mentioned that, and also, punches generally don't cause bleeding.

 

 

 

 

 

47 minutes ago, DynamiteKaitorn said:

are Mancubuses female

I feel like I heard that somewhere. Not sure, though.

[Deleted_Account]

3 minutes ago, LiT_gam3r said:

I mentioned that, and also, punches generally don't cause bleeding.

DUDE!!!!!! Punches cause bleeding! Fists can break noses and knock out teeth, bleeding is almost always guaranteed to follow! I'm beginning to wonder if you even play DOOM?!

[croc_rock]

I guess they expected people to use the rl for cacodemons which explains the giant hole

[ZeroTheEro]

3 hours ago, LiT_gam3r said:

• why do Lost souls explode?

They are made of volatile gases.

 

3 hours ago, LiT_gam3r said:

• why after the Mancubus's headshot, would she melt?  

She???
 

3 hours ago, LiT_gam3r said:

 

• And finally, why would Our Hero (DOOMGUY) have a slit throat? no enemy would be tall enough to hit him there that would cause his neck to bleed (except reverent, but punches wouldn't cut somebodies throat) and the fireballs/hitscan weapons/rockets wouldn't cause your neck to bleed. Also, the Spectre/Demon would not bite your throat. 

 

 

who says it does have to be a slit throat? It can be a shot to the neck.

[Chip]

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, User Name said:

DUDE!!!!!! Punches cause bleeding! Fists can break noses and knock out teeth, bleeding is almost always guaranteed to follow! 

I mean it wouldn't cause bleeding on the neck. 

 

 

 

 

 

10 minutes ago, ZeroTheEro said:

She???

The SM and Mancubi are both women

 

 

 

 

11 minutes ago, ZeroTheEro said:

who says it does have to be a slit throat? It can be a shot to the neck.

Oh! that makes sense!

[Redneckerz]

2 hours ago, LiT_gam3r said:

I get that, but why?

Because thats how they created them back then.

 

The 90s were their own times, OP. Creativity through limitations was what dominated the landscape.

[ZeroTheEro]

2 minutes ago, LiT_gam3r said:

The SM and Mancubi are both women

Only SM is described as a women.

Mancubi is a guy hence the "man".

[Chip]

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, ZeroTheEro said:

Mancubi is a guy hence the "man".

Man means Human, not male. also, species can have more than one sex. Look at us, our species has over 14 of them.

[ZeroTheEro]

34 minutes ago, LiT_gam3r said:

Man means Human, not male. also, species can have more than one sex. Look at us, our species has over 14 of them.

"Man" is mainly used to refer as male. I'm not focusing on the other two meanings, that's outside of the scope of discussion.

Edited May 4, 2020 by ZeroTheEro

[Murdoch]

The answer to all is "because id thought it looked cool at the time".

[Chip]

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, ZeroTheEro said:

"Man" is mainly used to refer as male. I'm not focusing on the other two meanings, that's outside of the scope of discussion.

No, Man in Mancubus refers to this,

 

3 hours ago, Job said:

The mancubus is actually composed of human corpses sutured together. When a fatal blow is made, the foundation stitch comes undone, effectively unraveling the body. 

it is referring to Homo sapien. 

[doorlock]

I thought imps were female as well?

[Chip]

This was just supposed to be a fun little thing to dissect the deaths of demons. Could we possibly not fight?

[Deimos]

Womancubus.

[Deleted_Account]

7 hours ago, LiT_gam3r said:

I mean it wouldn't cause bleeding on the neck.

Bruh! Revenants have spiked knuckles.

[Lila Feuer]

Chaingunner's split personality wants to be independent.

Lost souls think too hard about stuff that doesn't matter.

Caci is literally fragile, both physically and emotionally.

Fatso is self-conscious and doesn't want to be fat in death because it's more embarrassing.

Doomguy is never actually killed by any monster you see in the game but quickly assassinated by the ghost of a notorious serial killer.

[DOEL]

I kinda love how monsters' death animations don't always match the way they're disposed of.

 

I've always thought it'd be hilarious if a modern game ran with this idea, Something like shooting and enemy with a pistol only to have them completely explode or shooting an enemy in the foot only to have gushing bullet holes appear all over their body as they die.