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Lynn

Is no one else worried by the dangerous precedent being set by the moderation team?

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I'm not sure how you aren't able to see the massive problems with a user repeatedly making very absurd torture porn content of women and hiding it in maps over and over again. That's why the wad was moderated. No more, no less.

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3 minutes ago, Edward850 said:

I'm not sure how you aren't able to see the massive problems with a user repeatedly making very absurd torture porn content of women and hiding it in maps over and over again. That's why the wad was moderated. No more, no less.

 

Please read my post. It has nothing to do with the issue that has been brought up by Not Jabba. I fully agree the content is wrong, but that is not the point I'm looking to highlight.

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3 minutes ago, Edward850 said:

I'm not sure how you aren't able to see the massive problems with a user repeatedly making very absurd torture porn content of women and hiding it in maps over and over again. That's why the wad was moderated. No more, no less.

 

but but but muh  f r e e z e  p e a c h

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4 minutes ago, Lynn said:

Please read my post. It has nothing to do with the issue that has been brought up by Not Jabba. I fully agree the content is wrong, but that is not the point I'm looking to highlight.

I read your post, that's why I responded to it. If "moderators are moderating the wads I like" is not the thing you are complaining about, then what are you complaining about? Because you haven't made that clear in your post. A wad doesn't get a free pass just because you like it, that's not how moderation should ever work.

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The callout post was due to Shadowman being a creeper who shoves his creeper nonsense into every dumb WAD he touches, and it looks like that's what happened there, as well.

 

Hell, I can recall one time where this very forum straight-up rejected contributions to Freedoom because a member couldn't keep their contributions from being a bunch of references to school shooters.

 

So no, I'm not worried. 

 

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You may want to reread my post, I never said douk was the one doing those things.

Doom has always involved people being horrifically mutilated and tortured in Hell. How do you crybabies get through life on a daily basis?

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10 minutes ago, RonnieColeman said:

Doom has always involved people being horrifically mutilated and tortured in Hell. How do you crybabies get through life on a daily basis?

People of indeterminate race or gender. That's a far cry from one mod author finding ways to depict women specifically over and over again as "secret jokes". 

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4 minutes ago, RonnieColeman said:

Doom has always involved people being horrifically mutilated and tortured in Hell. How do you crybabies get through life on a daily basis?

Are you this stupid for real, or are you chasing clout with your doomer boards friends? Are you gonna get an extra special medal when you get banned from here?

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@RonnieColeman as a suggestion, and only that, I say as new users here, we shouldn't post in the topics with radical opinions as it could lead to a ban. sorry if this offends you, so I only leave it as a suggestion. I will try to no longer communicate my opinion on the thread to not offend anybody or anything. 

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Doom-world has a strict policy on pornographic/ graphic content and this person seems to disregard the Forums Rules. Anyone who thinks the forum rules don't matter imo isn't welcome here.

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21 minutes ago, RonnieColeman said:

Doom has always involved people being horrifically mutilated and tortured in Hell. How do you crybabies get through life on a daily basis?

That's only a fraction of the problem. The bigger part of the problem is that he sneaks that kind of stuff into the things he's worked on to a fetishistic degree

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You're either an idiot or being purposefully obtuse @RonnieColeman

 

53 minutes ago, MTrop said:

The callout post was due to Shadowman being a creeper who shoves his creeper nonsense into every dumb WAD he touches, and it looks like that's what happened there, as well.

 

This sums it up.

 

33 minutes ago, dew said:

Are you this stupid for real, or are you chasing clout with your doomer boards friends? Are you gonna get an extra special medal when you get banned from here?

 

Don't lump me in with RonnieFuckwit plz

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@xvertigox and you are being incredibly rude, i don't understand why people fight so fucking much over dumb shit like this, what Shadowman did was Wrong and if you think otherwise you are seriously fucked in the head.

 

Doomworld is suppose to be all inclusive and putting women in distressing situations is not my idea of inclusion, Same thing why threads which are Racists, Edgy, or otherwise obscene are removed quickly by moderators because they break the idea that everyone is welcomed to use Doomworld without fear of Prejudice. 

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5 minutes ago, Morpheus666 said:

@xvertigox and you are being incredibly rude

 

It gets tiring being pleasant to people who act like dicks.


In case my post wasn't clear, I was agreeing with MTrop and other's sentiments in that the wad should have been removed given the author's history of putting this shit in all his wads.

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If I could use an example to give a description of the gore dilemma in this case, it would be this one:

There's a big difference between The Evil Dead
and A Serbian Film.

 

Imagine a WAD like The Evil Dead or Ash vs Evil Dead... now do it for A Serbian film and you'll see a big jump in the context. It starts giving you ideas about the mind of the creator.

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I just hid nearly the whole thread except for the first few posts before this began.

 

One thing I've tried to do (just me personally here) for many years is avoid getting involved in political or otherwise controversial topics on this forum. If I take a position and hide (or split off into Post Hell before the upgrade) the opposing posts that don't really break any rules, even if I am totally right about the subject, I might come across as not being impartial and we get threads like this (also a report that alerted me to that thread in the first place).

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...and that's how you provide even more exposure to Ascension ("oh wow, so much controversy, gotta go look what's the fuss about", case in point being me) and essentially create an another SgtMarkIV. Good job, kids.

From what I gathered during the last hour - let's just say that a little birdie told me - Shadowman confirmed that he will not alter anything and, for a moment, has even considered outright provocations towards Doomworld for that move. Again, good job.

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1 hour ago, Gokuma said:

I prefer to keep my sex and violence separate.   Naked women are cute when they're happy and alive.


Ero guro is a thing, so there will be a minority who disagree with you. Nevertheless, having been said it's probably not a very bright idea to be inserting your niche, personal interests (i.e fetishes) into your public works.

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I remember asking Shadowman what was behind naming the world "Khorus" when one of the Inquisitor projects came out and the paraphrased response being "More than one thing can have a name."

 

Seems like a nice bloke...

 

37 minutes ago, Vic Vos said:

From what I gathered during the last hour - let's just say that a little birdie told me - Shadowman confirmed that he will not alter anything and, for a moment, has even considered outright provocations towards Doomworld for that move. Again, good job.

 

heh

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Like this post if you have the ability to separate fiction from reality (the world you see when you turn your head 180 degrees from this post).

46 minutes ago, Vic Vos said:

...and that's how you provide even more exposure to Ascension ("oh wow, so much controversy, gotta go look what's the fuss about", case in point being me) and essentially create an another SgtMarkIV. Good job, kids.

From what I gathered during the last hour - let's just say that a little birdie told me, Shadowman confirmed that he will not alter anything and has even considered outright provocations towards Doomworld for that move. Again, good job.

Yeah I wasn't aware it was released until I saw this curious thread. This is good though because I've been looking forward to it and now I know it's released and have just downloaded it from the ZDoom forums thread! I liked The Inquisitor III a lot and I'll try to keep an eye out for this super duper (and assuredly not worthy of such fuss) controversial secret too. Respect to Shadowman for not budging.

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3 hours ago, MTrop said:

Hell, I can recall one time where this very forum straight-up rejected contributions to Freedoom because a member couldn't keep their contributions from being a bunch of references to school shooters.

I remember that, and it wasn't just that their submissions to Freedoom were rejected - they were banned from Doomworld with extreme prejudice, which is what we have always done with edgelords who like to glorify school shootings.

 

2 hours ago, xvertigox said:

Don't lump me in with RonnieFuckwit plz

Then you should get better friends.

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3 hours ago, Vic Vos said:

...and that's how you provide even more exposure to Ascension ("oh wow, so much controversy, gotta go look what's the fuss about", case in point being me) and essentially create an another SgtMarkIV. Good job, kids.

Yes, clearly the right thing to do with any kind of offensive content or activity is to ignore it, and hope no one notices it before it goes away. Especially with an obvious pattern of repeated behaviour. But hey, at least when people stand up to it, you get the chance to be condescending to them, while also getting some nice juicy drama to revel in!

 

(edit: this was kind of snarkier than I meant it to be, so in the interest of promoting civil discussion, I apologize. Saying things like "good job, kids" is really not a great way to validate your argument, though. )

 

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Shadowman confirmed that he will not alter anything and, for a moment, has even considered outright provocations towards Doomworld for that move.

oh no

 

whatever will we do

 

2 hours ago, SuperCupcakeTactics said:

Like this post if you have the ability to separate fiction from reality (the world you see when you turn your head 180 degrees from this post).

"I don't have a problem with the content being discussed, so obviously everyone else that does is overly sensitive or just delusional."

 

Come on man. It's not some stupid bit with Lara Croft in a map that's the problem, it's that the guy who did it has done a similar thing several times, and will probably keep doing it, in a way that seems to advocate violence against women. Maybe he's just doing that to be "funny"/edgy, maybe he's just frustrated that he sucks at Tomb Raider, I don't know. But whatever his reasons, making repeated posts with that kind of content wouldn't and shouldn't be tolerated on these forums, and so posting about wads with that content shouldn't be either.

 

6 hours ago, Lynn said:

The thread was purged of several discussion posts written after Not Jabba's initial callout. Yet other posts that agree with Not Jabba's views have remained.

I do agree that this was a bad decision. It appears that the thread has now been purged of Not Jabba's first post everything that has followed.

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