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Captain Red

Controversial doom projects.

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With a game as easy to modify as doom, you can expect to get all kinds of projects, some good, some not so good, and some just downright tasteless. For example, TC based around high school shootings, practically anything to do with middle eastern or any extreme right wing goings on. I think that we really discuss what is, and is not appropriate for a doom TC. Perhaps you’ve heard of some shady projects... (But for god sake, DO NOT POST LINKS TO THEM OR YOU WILL BE BANNED).

I’ve posted this in the general to get input from all doomers as opposed to just the people who post in the Wads & Mods forum.

The thing that mod makers should always remember is that the first and for most goal of any TC should be fun.

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Ct_red_pants said:

The thing that mod makers should always remember is that the first and for most goal of any TC should be fun.


Indeed, those TCs are in poor taste, IMHO. Who would really be interested in seeing these projects to completion, and even then, who would care enough to play them? There are more interesting and original ideas to undertake, and basing your efforts on real world events or tragedies is time ill-spent.

I guess my opinion is backed by my cynical attitude towards mods developed for current FPS games. I wonder if there are any wars that HAVEN'T been covered yet...

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Vile said:

I wonder if there are any wars that HAVEN'T been covered yet...

<hillybillyguyfromGTA3>Thah Australian-American War!</hillbillyguyfromGTA3>

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Trasher][: Why a Us vs America would ever happen in a zillion years, I will never know but anyways. There was an episode of sliders once where that happened though, after Sadam Husein launched some chemical weapon that killed most of the males on the earth.

Anyways Australia kicked the US`s ass in the war between the 2 after that, so YAY :p

But back to reality. Thats a war that`d never happen (myself being an aussie I know). Australia always backs America in all wars it goes in (cause of that alliance treaty after ww2).

Anyways the weirdest but good TC I`ve seen for doom2 so far was that Sonic3D one released last year, that was a 3D platforming game. For a TC like that to be possible with the doom engine is a great achievement in itself.

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Re: The Australian-American War

It was a joke in Grand Theft Auto 3, on the Chatterbox radio station. Some fruitcake, shell-shocked veteran calls in and rants about how the Aussies would rig kangaroos to go on kamikaze missions, and how he had boomarang shrapnel in his head. Supposedly during GTA Vice City, the OzAmer war is going on in the background. I haven't been able to play it so I don't know.

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I'm suprised no one's tried a Batman Beyond TC. (yes, some taste here)
Real Life(tm) mods do tend to suck. Besides, people would get the message wrong. That and the media leeches off of anything negative. <--Big problem there.

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All things considered I don`t think anyone would mind if someone made a "Kill all the Al`Quida terroists" or "Kill Asama" TC :). Considering theres already flash games where you get to do just that.

My favorite was one where you have to kill Asama Bin Laden in some "quicki mart" type shop. But not shoot hostages that jump up. Its quite an amusing game. But I wont post any links due to the rules at the start of this topic :p

Ravage: Considering how good that other Batman TC was, I`m surprised they never made a sequel to it or anything.

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icemann said:

All things considered I don`t think anyone would mind if someone made a "Kill all the Al`Quida terroists" or "Kill Asama" TC :). Considering theres already flash games where you get to do just that.

DO NOT DESECRATE THE UNHOLINESS THAT IS DOOM WITH THAT CRAP!!! You get the idea. :P

My favorite was one where you have to kill Asama Bin Laden in some "quicki mart" type shop. But not shoot hostages that jump up. Its quite an amusing game. But I wont post any links due to the rules at the start of this topic :p

I played it, didn't think anything special about it, besides the urge to go on a rampage in teh middle-east. :P

MaCvILeWhOrE said:

Anyone ever seen that nazi doom crap? Now THAT is bad taste.

Buzz off. :P

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I saw an "invasion of afghanistan", complete with a kill osama bin laden stage, on a warez site. I believe it used the build engine, but I never tried it to know for sure.

I don't think I would play any tc that involved anything like columbine, mideast conflicts, or nazi/kkk crap. just don't appeal to me.

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icemann said:

All things considered I don`t think anyone would mind if someone made a "Kill all the Al`Quida terroists" or "Kill Asama" TC :). Considering theres already flash games where you get to do just that.


You're wrong. Lots of people would consider that very lame. With all the anti-terrorism crap being spewed by the media it would be quite tasteless. I guess you missed a recent thread, too.

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Gokuma said:

Jone's Town Doom

Jone's Town or Johnstown?

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myk: Well I only just joined the forums here this week (initially to announce the release a remake of a doom2 level I made onto the system shock 2 engine). So yes I missed that thread.

Anyways I HIGHLY doubt theres anyone here who actually likes those terroists or anything. Personally I`d love to put a few shells into them myself. Ah well *shuts up*.

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some things that wouldn't go over very well would be ones were you take on the role of a terrorist.

but who the hell would be stupid enough to do that?

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me pobably :P

(kidding for all you humourless yutz's out there)

Well, I mean, I don't like the us government or any of its shit, but than again I don't like terrorism either :P

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Imagine if someone took the time to make a megawad that was like a story of the attacks on America.


I am willing to bet that at least one person has/is making something of the sorts, with all the crazy stuff on the internet.

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Maybe someone in the halflife crowd. Theres been some real weirdass levels and mods released for that.

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KoRn said:

Imagine if someone took the time to make a megawad that was like a story of the attacks on America.

I recall that in mid-2001 there was a game being developed (nearing completion?) called World War III, in which you could take the side of a USA/USSR coalition attempting to take over the middle east, or play as "terrorists attempting to duff up American cities". IIRC, it was by a German/Polish company. I haven't heard anything about it since - perhaps it was abandoned, or the technology (which I heard was very good) has been used for a different game entirely.

I don't see any point in something like "Kill Osama" Doom - it's about as useful as throwing darts at a picture of the guy.

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I can't stand tasteless wads. Someone sent me a wad that was one big room with a whole bunch of enemies with Osama Bin Laden heads. I felt filthy just by playing it. Seriously, how bad can it get?

Doom is a good, solid, respectable game. Making wads with bad taste is wrong. It cheapens the game, and stops potential new Doomers from playing the game.

I remember after the Columbine, news programs actually blamed Doom for the racist mods and wads.

Some people are seriously fucked in the head and should seek serious medical help. Tasteless wads is to Doom as child pornography is to Playboy.

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I hate when media blames games. they seem to like to try and make it seem like only one or two people actually play the game. because if it was true, wouldn't the millions of game players shoot people?

I wonder how hard it would be to make a doom wad that is as if you got shrunk... and are in like a house or something..

(I am tired)

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I know that my friend's boss made a Quake 3 level of his basement, in large size. Even scanned the covers of his cds on his desk. The chair, mouse trap, and stapler were all bounce pads. I believe the level was on Quakeworld at some point. Fun level.

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must have took some time to do.


an large open shapeless room is a lame kind of doom level. I only made one while trying to get custom sprites to work.

if you need to do something controversial to get your doom maps known, then you don't know what doom is really about.

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VileSlay said:

I don't think I would play any tc that involved anything like columbine, mideast conflicts, or nazi/kkk crap. just don't appeal to me.


Oddly enough, "anything around columbine" interests me because you can see what the mind of a killer is like sorta... But the last two aren't so intersting.

MaCvILeWhOrE said:

Anyone ever seen that nazi doom crap? Now THAT is bad taste.



I've seen that before! That stupid piece of shit was floating on Kazaa somewhere, so was a bunch of warez doom stuff. I told my friend to see if he was able to find some doom stuff, but all he found was a ton of warez stuff and that nazi doom thing.

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Wait, I thought you were talking about wolfendoom. huh. Now I'm really confused. (Name a time I'm NOT :P)

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Lizardcommando said:

I've seen that before! That stupid piece of shit was floating on Kazaa somewhere, so was a bunch of warez doom stuff. I told my friend to see if he was able to find some doom stuff, but all he found was a ton of warez stuff and that nazi doom thing.


Yeah, I also told my friend to get doom to try some mods and multiplayer, and all he found was doom'95 with nazi doom, off KaZaA. Until a doom2.zip showed up.


p.s. he bought doom2 for mac a while back(even though now he has a pc), so it wasn't really pirating when he finally got doom2 off kazaa for PC. besides, you can find doom2 anywhere for free now.

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Nick Perrin said:

Yeah, I also told my friend to get doom to try some mods and multiplayer, and all he found was doom'95 with nazi doom, off KaZaA. Until a doom2.zip showed up.


p.s. he bought doom2 for mac a while back(even though now he has a pc), so it wasn't really pirating when he finally got doom2 off kazaa for PC. besides, you can find doom2 anywhere for free now.


Gee, that still sounds like pirating to me. :/

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