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I was making a WAD that uses Wolfenstein ss and got curious as to what they were like in Freedoom. I'm clearly missing a joke, care to explain?

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Well as I only know the Italian Sailors where added in 0.2 (without any unique sounds at first) that basically are just to replace the SMG Nazi.
The normal map textures where around longer than the sailor itself, but no real connections with the crude poptart man otherwise.
Not sure who added the Sailor or why it and the textures has been still sitting for so long...

I been meaning to finish with the sprites and textures to make something that does tie in with the universe of FreeDoomland (And no one decides to make any real progress on cannon lore yet darn it) but I been at a sort of hiatus time from it as I been having a hard time mentally to finish it properly yet.
My concept goes about rebels that escaped or mutinied from AGM and are willing to take a truce with the aliens and monsters to take down AGM (but are really paranoid and will kill traitors AKA infighting with one another :P), but as it stands FreeDoom Guy looks like one of the AGM employees so they go after him when seeing him.

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I think it would be great to add some sprites from Shadow/Rise of the Woolball as the SS replacement, and also some textures from there.

It would be a good nod to our community and also they are pretty fitting as both games made by MSPaintRocks are comedy parodies of Wolfenstein and Rise of the Triad respectivelly.

 

A lot more fitting than the Sailors at least, i think.

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Maybe don't volunteer someone else's work for inclusion in Freedoom with the extremely permissive license that it implies?

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4 minutes ago, Gez said:

Maybe don't volunteer someone else's work for inclusion in Freedoom with the extremely permissive license that it implies?

FWIW MSPaintRocks has approved of this idea before.

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1 hour ago, Gez said:

Maybe don't volunteer someone else's work for inclusion in Freedoom with the extremely permissive license that it implies?

 

1 hour ago, Blastfrog said:

FWIW MSPaintRocks has approved of this idea before.

This^ is why i mentioned it, Gez. I read and check freedoom git, every now and then waiting for new releases. Thats how i knew about this possibility.

What baffles me is that, even with the author approval, they sprites and textures aren't still on the wad...

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Okay then.

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The only issue with Shadow/Rise of the Woolball sprites is that they don't have rotations, while the SS guards are meant to have them.

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I was thinking... another idea could be using sprites from C-Dogs SDL (which is also Free and Open Source, assets are CC0/CC-BY/CC-BY-SA ..though we would need to ask which character graphics would be available in CC0 for it to be used in Freedoom).

The angle is a bit different though, but I wonder if it'd still be serviceable.

cdogs_walk_cycle_jones.gif

 

Btw, unrelated but they have already done tribute to Doom themselves before by making a campaign heavily inspired by it:

Spoiler

https://cxong.github.io/cdogs-sdl/release/2020/05/27/c-dogs-0.8.html

doom_remaster.png

 

There's also this character head as one of the options:

helmet_guy.gif

 

Edited by Ferk

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