smeghammer Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) ** Edit 3 ** It's now a beta release. Thanks to @ElPadrecitoCholo and @Soulless for playing and giving feedback. ** Edit 2 ** Play notes: - GZDoom 4.4 - freelook recommended - As deep liquid, swimming recommended (you'll drown otherwise...) ** Edit ** Updated lighting in yellow key area. Neat reveal lighting on opening door! Alpha release. All keys and traps built now. It *should* all hang together. ** End ** ** Tested in GZDoom 4.4.x ** A work in progress Hexen format thing with central theme as randomly moving platforms in slime. I wanted to do another map with a bit of scripting in, and I wanted to make the script more efficient. The 81 platforms are driven by about a dozen lines of code, which is nice. Also been playing with untextured 3D sectors to do vertical lighting and shadow - seems to have worked: Spoiler and I also used stacked 3D sectors without textures (apart from the top one) to do the fading depth and depth dependent damage for the slime. Early days yet, but have 2 out of three keys done and some monster/thing placement done. Here are a few more screenies: Spoiler Check it out here. More to come... Edited November 2, 2020 by smeghammer 8 Share this post Link to post
Soulless Posted October 29, 2020 I just played it, waiting for that yellow key progression man! cool stuff. 1 Share this post Link to post
smeghammer Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) @Soulless, nice one. Yep, working on it now... 0 Share this post Link to post
ElPadrecitoCholo Posted October 29, 2020 @smeghammer Dude, help!, I can't find my way to the yellow key, although the rest of the map was really fine. 0 Share this post Link to post
Soulless Posted October 29, 2020 Theres no way to get it "yet" @ElPadrecitoCholo, still in progress. 0 Share this post Link to post
ElPadrecitoCholo Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) @Soulless Oh sorry, I didn't know it was still under construction, but @smeghammer's idea is really good. 1 Share this post Link to post
smeghammer Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) @ElPadrecitoCholo, thanks for giving it a try. It is in progress and will be in a finishable state probably this week. Just sorting the exit and key switches etc. Difficult with a family and kids on half-term... 0 Share this post Link to post
ElPadrecitoCholo Posted October 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, smeghammer said: @ElPadrecitoCholo, thanks for giving it a try. It is in progress and will be in a finishable state probably this week. Just sorting the exit and key switches etc. Difficult with a family and kids on half-term... @smeghammer I totally understand, I will be patient until you bring the finalized version of your map, partner, by the way, one last little thing, as I saw, the map has no secrets, but at the beginning, when you walk back and grab the shotgun, you see a teleporter unused, and in front of this, you see a strange wall that when shot, raises a secret door that reveals more shotgun ammunition, which left me a bit confused, was it the prototype for a future secret room that you were going to add to map? 0 Share this post Link to post
smeghammer Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, ElPadrecitoCholo said: was it the prototype for a future secret room that you were going to add to map Indeedy! Yes there are several places that I will turn into secrets, and I will probably add more. Also, I'll update the thread title to emphasize that this is a work in progress. 2 Share this post Link to post
smeghammer Posted October 29, 2020 OK finished the exit area logic. Need to add decent lighting and the actual yellow key. Getting there... Spoiler 2 Share this post Link to post
ElPadrecitoCholo Posted October 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, smeghammer said: OK finished the exit area logic. Need to add decent lighting and the actual yellow key. Getting there... Hide contents That is very good, now there is a purpose to collect the keys from those areas. 0 Share this post Link to post
smeghammer Posted October 31, 2020 Pinging @Soulless and @ElPadrecitoCholo. Alpha release, all keys and traps should now work. I might extend the second part of the yellow trap to include a monster closet on the other side. You will see what I mean. I've got a bit play-blind so I'd really appreciate fresh eyes on this, so any feedback would be most welcome. 1 Share this post Link to post
Soulless Posted October 31, 2020 Alright Ill give it a try later today! 1 Share this post Link to post
smeghammer Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) Hmmm.... Found a bug. Some of the main platforms sometimes seem to stop moving after a while. Possibly related to some of the imps being killed. No idea actually... The code looks to be OK in that it doesn't set the moving speed to zero. Fairly sure there is no issue with tags on the sectors either. It seems that one of the three exit platforms is also triggered to rise and fall. Not quite sure how, but that seems to be screwing it up somehow. Let me know if you see the same thing. Edited October 31, 2020 by smeghammer 0 Share this post Link to post
smeghammer Posted October 31, 2020 OK its because imps get stuck between rising and falling plats. Because several plats share a tag, they all stop.... Time to look at block monsters or crush damage. 0 Share this post Link to post
smeghammer Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) Exit platform bug fixed. Updated version pushed. 1 Share this post Link to post
ElPadrecitoCholo Posted October 31, 2020 @smeghammer First of all, thanks there for the notice mate, in a few moments I will start playing the Wad, secondly, if I find any error that you have mentioned, I will not hesitate to let you know, okay? 0 Share this post Link to post
smeghammer Posted October 31, 2020 Go for it. Any feedback welcome of course. The bug you will likely come across is the platforms getting stuck. The imps can get wedged between adjacent platforms. Need to figure out a way to prevent this (block monster lines?, add a scripted crush logic?). For now, manually killing them sorts it out. 1 Share this post Link to post
Hitboi Posted October 31, 2020 Currently playing this and i'm gonna review this tomorrow or sooner ;) 1 Share this post Link to post
smeghammer Posted October 31, 2020 @HitBoi64 - it is a work in progress, so expect bugs... Thanks for playing though. Any feedback welcome. 0 Share this post Link to post
Soulless Posted October 31, 2020 It works nicely! The new "lava trap" is great, I was so close to fall down! 1 Share this post Link to post
smeghammer Posted October 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Soulless said: It works nicely! The new "lava trap" is great, I was so close to fall down! Nice one! Glad you like it. I have a minor fix that stops the platform blocking, but that doesn't affect much except the platform imp fight. 0 Share this post Link to post
ElPadrecitoCholo Posted November 2, 2020 Crush Depth Ultra-Violence mode || GZDoom || EVP Status: *Deaths: 0 *Saves: none As in its release date, the map preserves what is very good architecture, I really liked what you have done with the structure of the place, preserving some things and improving others, such as the room that has the yellow key for example, everything really that I found very cool and impressive. With the difficulty it does not fail either, since being up and down, killing Imps as if this were a fair game was fun, although a bit annoying, like shooting a duck in constant movement, and at the entrances of the 3 keys also have a good difficulty, with the acquired weapons they are no longer a problem on a large scale, which is much appreciated. I had a great time on this map, it was really fun and entertaining, although a pity I did not find the last remaining enemies on the map, I had a great time finding all the secrets and items that there were, very good work here partner. 1 Share this post Link to post
smeghammer Posted November 2, 2020 @ElPadrecitoCholo, thanks for playing - glad you liked it :-). Very much appreciate the feedback. 6 hours ago, ElPadrecitoCholo said: like shooting a duck in constant movement Yeah, it is like a fairground game isn't it. This whole level was originally just a test to see if I could do an efficient ACS script to drive the platforms, as I noted in the OP. I was pleased with the effect so I added the playable bits. If you liked this, I have another project that you might like. It's an in-progress miniwad called Hellbreach, which I started in March when lockdown happened. It was the first Doom map/project in about 25 years, so the first level is sort-of basic... The others are essentially me learning to map. Three maps are done and the fourth map, which is still in progress, is another scripty/puzzle-based type thing (again, based on an idea about script-driven randomised teleport destinations). I will go back to this one now, probably when the kids go back to school after half-term later in the week. (btw, I am in the process of moving the maps to a different host, so the links in my posts might be temporarily broken - they'll all get corrected though.) I 2 Share this post Link to post
ElPadrecitoCholo Posted November 2, 2020 @smeghammer Thank you very much for the recognition of the post that I dedicate to your map, partner, of course I would be interested in trying the other one that you have recommended, and yes, it seemed a lot like a fair game, like "Mario Party" to be exact, haha , but yes, it was really great, and to be a test, I don't look so bad, I really will wait for your other projects that you get to have in the future, partner 0 Share this post Link to post