SaladBadger Posted November 16, 2020 https://github.com/InsanityBringer/Doom05RE I've finally gotten my Doom 0.5 RE project to a point where it's basically feature complete, so I've created a repo for it. The port I've developed is extremely barebones, and mostly exists just to verify that things are functional, but it does the job. I dunno what else to do with this. My main intentions are to write an article similar to Fabien's article on how the BSP based Doom renderer works, and try to delve deep into why the original recursive algorithm was so slow. Additionally, I'd like to also possibly port it on top of Chocolate Doom's gameplay code and see if it would be possible to make it work with features like Build-like moving sectors. In practice, any serious port would be better off adopting Eternity like portals and clever use of portals and polyobjects for complicated moving things, but it might be neat to see what was originally possible. Beyond that, there's not much of interest in an engine derived from alpha-quality game code, beyond being a time capsule of what Doom's code was once like. 29 Share this post Link to post
Redneckerz Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, SaladBadger said: https://github.com/InsanityBringer/Doom05RE I've finally gotten my Doom 0.5 RE project to a point where it's basically feature complete, so I've created a repo for it. The port I've developed is extremely barebones, and mostly exists just to verify that things are functional, but it does the job. I dunno what else to do with this. My main intentions are to write an article similar to Fabien's article on how the BSP based Doom renderer works, and try to delve deep into why the original recursive algorithm was so slow. Additionally, I'd like to also possibly port it on top of Chocolate Doom's gameplay code and see if it would be possible to make it work with features like Build-like moving sectors. In practice, any serious port would be better off adopting Eternity like portals and clever use of portals and polyobjects for complicated moving things, but it might be neat to see what was originally possible. Beyond that, there's not much of interest in an engine derived from alpha-quality game code, beyond being a time capsule of what Doom's code was once like. Epic Sauce. Are you aware of Newdhack? It was an attempt to recreate the Alpha version. Later on there was a recreation of 0.8 in a beta engine. See here. 2 Share this post Link to post
SaladBadger Posted November 16, 2020 I'm somewhat familiar with xttl and Quasar's work, and I remember many years ago Quasar talking about architectural differences in the pre-beta release. It's all very neat, and I admire the things the two have managed to pull off. So far as I'm aware though there's never been much work done with any of the earlier alpha versions, which is a shame since they bury lots of interesting secrets and tell a tale of the game's evolution, especially on the rendering front. 1 Share this post Link to post
taufan99 Posted November 16, 2020 I love the alpha versions, and this feels like a dream-come-true. 3 Share this post Link to post
SaladBadger Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) Trying some ways to visualize the recursive rendering for the Article I Want to Write On The Alpha Doom Renderer. I think this works out quite nicely, and indicates some of the fun aspects of the recursive stepping problems John Romero brought up, like how sector 10 is stepped into twice and sector 1 is stepped into 4 times in this view. The lines that appear before each iteration are the clipping bounds for that pass. 11 Share this post Link to post
axdoomer Posted November 23, 2020 Very interesting. I don't know if this old version of E1M2 still exists in the game files, but would you be able to test the renderer on it? Romero said it "slowed the game way down" during his Doom Post-Mortem. 2 Share this post Link to post
Dark Pulse Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) Fixed that link for you @axdoomer 2 Share this post Link to post
SaladBadger Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) I made a replica of romero's map a while back, so I could probably convert it to alpha format and look at it. Sadly a lot of the maps shown in screenshots are somewhere in between the various alpha releases we have (which is annoying, since the screenshot set that shows one of the first ever maps made with the sector iteration algorithm has a lot of flats that are not present anywhere in any released data set) From looking at the images though, it's possible to see where the problems lie. The ring structure would be stepped into by either 2 or 3 portals based on how you're looking at it. Based on your view angle, the portals within the rings would be stepped into multiple times (IE, if you were staring into the ring dead on from a cardinal direction, I could see there being five iterations into the second step depending on perspective). Stepping into a sector multiple times isn't always too bad, since lines that weren't clipped by the left/right bounds should be cached, but any that were rejected in a previous step will have to be reprojected again. EDIT: Just looking at E1M8 in the Alpha confirms some of the things I was thinking. Indeed, the innermost steps are entered 5 times each. Edited November 23, 2020 by SaladBadger 14 Share this post Link to post
zx64 Posted February 19, 2021 Do you have any notes on your workflow for analysing the alpha binaries? I found some scattered hints in the exe hacking thread on things like how to make Ghidra more useful with programs that use dos extenders but it'd be great to have something more condensed. In case you're still looking for additional references for your article, I noticed that there's some loading and saving code for the alpha's map format in the DoomEd source release. 0 Share this post Link to post
SaladBadger Posted February 19, 2021 TBH being my first time around my approach wasn't particularly rocket science, so I don't know how helpful I can be, but I'll gather up all I did here and some related notes. To get started, I was pointed to ghidra and the LX loader addon, and I recalled xttl's tip from the exe hacking thread on how to strip the dos extender: Delete all bytes in the executable up to the second MZ header. (I was also pointed out to the fact that there's a Watcom binding tool that can do it present by mistake in one of the earliest Descent shareware releases, but I couldn't find it. It's not needed, though). I chose Doom 0.5 specifically because it was built with full debugging information (though this does have some side effects, since it means stack checking is enabled, which interferes with the decompiler in some weird ways), which accelerated things a lot because it contained full information on all of the structures in the executable, as well as complete listings of all stack and register variables in every function. Sadly, I don't think there's been a lot of effort on figuring out the formats for this data, only the more limited symbol tables that are present in 0.4 up to the PRB. I just kinda brute forced it, since before each field name in a structure, there's a byte that starts at A, followed by a byte that contains the offset of the field. The A seems to be part of the offset, as it becomes B on some larger structures. This shouldn't be too hard to figure out in detail. With structures and function names in hand, I set out to map the functions and global variables, which was an adventure. This, in theory, could be done much faster with a script, since xttl has figured out the format of the symbol tables. Even then, though, Watcom's linker is simple and things simply appear in the order they appear in the symbol table (which is the order they appear in the core source code), so that's how I ended up mapping things. I started from the first couple of functions in the executable (though the ASM texture mappers are the first bits of code actually present), and did a first pass of the entire executable by simply naming functions and globals while filling in rough params, and then I went through to assign and verify types and clean things up on another pass. I've been pointed to this language spec file which implements Watcom's unusual calling convention (first four params are eax, edx, ebx, ecx, and then the remainders are passed RTL on the stack like usual), which helped make the work go faster. From there it was just smooth sailing as I figured out how to work the program. One thing I did have to get used to was identifying patterns. FixedMul and FixedDiv are inlined, unsurprisingly, which leads to some nasty looking C code: lVar1 = (longlong)(extraout_EDX << 3) * (longlong)cosines[temp_37f9af4087b]; player->momx = (uint)lVar1 >> 16 | (int)((ulonglong)lVar1 >> 32) << 16; lVar1 = (longlong)(extraout_EDX << 3) * (longlong)sines[temp_37f9af4087b]; player->momy = (uint)lVar1 >> 16 | (int)((ulonglong)lVar1 >> 32) << 16; FixedMuls can be identified as a IMUL reg; SHRD EAX, EDX, 0x10; in the disassembly, but eventually I just got used to identifying the pattern in the C code. (also the register work throws it off, in this function extraout_EDX is just one of the params to the function) Once it was time to port things, I mostly ported things by parts. Ported the low level code to my new SDL backend, ported the asm drawing routines, ported the level loader, then ported the renderer, ported the play loop, and then finally ported the overall game and demo loop. All throughout this I did cleanup on things that weren't quite correct or I messed up on. This is about all of the specific details I remember encountering on this project. Also, it's pretty cool that level IO code for this format is present in the DoomEd source. The general format of the level files has been known for a while, but it's pretty interesting to see that the level editor at one point was capable of reading/writing usable maps directly. It should also be a little helpful for the level convertor I'm slowly working on, since it shows how the variable length structures are created (which yeah, I can figure out myself, it's not hard, but given the option to be lazy and read something I'll take it) 5 Share this post Link to post
zx64 Posted February 20, 2021 Thanks again, really good writeup! I hope you continue to document this, I'm glad people are interested in preserving/exploring this part of history. I had also been wondering about the "missing link" of the Doom renderer's history - the SNES port of Wolf3d that had Carmack's first iteration of using BSP. The best info I have found so far is https://eludevisibility.org/2018/super-noahs-ark-3d-source-code which should be close (e.g. some familiar algorithms), but this is probably better for a separate thread. 0 Share this post Link to post
SaladBadger Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) For whatever it's worth, I had some time so I started cleaning up the code. There's a lot of super raw straight-from-the-decompiler-and-then-cleaned-up-to-function-but-not-very-pretty code in the thing, which was bothering me, so I went ahead and used the debugging information present in the executable to add accurate stack variable names where I can and also went ahead and changed while loops back to for loops when they were originally fors and so on. I've done this for the playsim only so far, but I want to do it to all the game's modules, and 0.5 is the only version where we can get such accurate information. One thing I'm a little on the fence about is whether or not I should heavily revise functions to match what they look like in the actual doom source. compare my version of EV_VerticalDoor with the one in the official Doom source release. The flow for things how it handles a door sector already having a thinker is somewhat different, and this can be noticed with a lot of these funcs. I kinda want to try reconstructing the source code as closely as possible, but it's a lot of work for little gain. I'm also still eyeballing getting this working with Open Watcom or a similar DOS compiler because I can't make this the "definitive" source because certain bugs would cause segfaults on modern operating systems if I kept them. Ah well, at least the gameplay logic and rendering seem accurate, accurate enough to run the original demos, for whatever it's worth. At least they desync in the same way as the original. 2 Share this post Link to post