Why i hate using source ports

[Kebab_Hill12]

Many people prefer to play source ports but i don't 

 

Here are the reason why i hate playing source ports

 

1. GZDOOM

ahh yes gzdoom that source port that everyone loved the problem is my pc can't handle it by good wow take a look HEDON wow WHY THE FRICK IT USES HIGHER OPENGL ON THE GAME?! well you know it sucks! I want the gzdoom to run on low end pc aswell and DOOM was meant to be played without a friggin gpu and the another problem is that it lags on SHRINE i have 4gb ram but shrine lags in its reason i respect the developer but i hate the gzdoom developer.

 

2. ZDOOM, QZDOOM, LZDOOM

it uses outdated one and it dosent have more feature than the latest one. 

 

3. Crispy DOOM, Chocolate doom

Chocolate doom... ah yes that vanilla experiencer everything is good but the problem is i want this source port to be modifiable in resource hacker but its fine btw 

Crispy doom.. just doom without the crispiness

 

4. GLBOOM, PRBOOM

ahhh yes another better source port  i prefer this but i need the crispy like in chocolate doom and im like friggin playing GTA San Andreas in 1080p without widescreen fix mod and here's what i want too i want the port to be modifiable in resource hacker and i want the port to add multiplayer like chocolate did i want to be compatible with vanilla doom and i want the option to toggle off the option of the source port i want it to be executable on the port btw 

 

Well that's today's folks i prefer prboom and glboom

[D4NUK1]

What's your GPU?

[boris]

TL;DR: "I hate the developers because I have shitty hardware".

[Redneckerz]

Lets investigate these complaints.

 

30 minutes ago, ILIKEDOOM2 said:

Many people prefer to play source ports but i don't 

 

Here are the reason why i hate playing source ports

 

1. GZDOOM

ahh yes gzdoom that source port that everyone loved the problem is my pc can't handle it by good wow take a look HEDON wow WHY THE FRICK IT USES HIGHER OPENGL ON THE GAME?! well you know it sucks!

If GZDoom does not run or not run well on your rig then you are using an OpenGL 3.x card or lower - The first of which was released in 2006. Since 2011-2012, even Intel IGP's support OpenGL 4.x, so if you can't run GZ well or at all, then you are practically using a decade old hardware at this point.

 

30 minutes ago, ILIKEDOOM2 said:

I want the gzdoom to run on low end pc aswell and DOOM was meant to be played without a friggin gpu

GZDoom employs a hardware accelerated renderer (your video card) to filter the pixels and to provide additional visual effects. It is just but another option to play Doom and you don't have to play Doom this way (Primarily your rig can't run GZDoom the way it is mean't to be played)

30 minutes ago, ILIKEDOOM2 said:

and the another problem is that it lags on SHRINE i have 4gb ram but shrine lags in its reason i respect the developer but i hate the gzdoom developer.

Hate is an incredibly strong word that loses all value when its used for mindless complaining such as this. You want to know why Shrine lags? Because your hardware isn't up to task. But instead of complaining, maybe you can convince @Graf Zahl. He is that developer.

30 minutes ago, ILIKEDOOM2 said:

2. ZDOOM, QZDOOM, LZDOOM

it uses outdated one and it dosent have more feature than the latest one. 

The argumentation here makes your complaint go bunk:

• ZDoom is discontinued. @drfrag maintains a hoist of ZDoom based forks with different GL renderers for different hardware (ZDoom CL, ZDoom LE, ZDoom32). Feel free to try those out.
• QZDoom is a research test bed for cutting edge features that may or may not end up in GZDoom. Rule of thumb: If you can't run GZ, chances are you can't run QZ either.
• LZDoom is a fork that literally supports everything GZ supports but enables this feature set for lower end hardware, such as your own rig. Have you tried LZDoom? Because it runs very well on my rig which is even older than yours.

30 minutes ago, ILIKEDOOM2 said:

3. Crispy DOOM, Chocolate doom

Chocolate doom... ah yes that vanilla experiencer everything is good but the problem is i want this source port to be modifiable in resource hacker but its fine btw 

Resource hacker can mean Hex editing, or it can mean DeHacked. Chocolate Doom supports DeHacked patches, so you can just use Whacked4 or DeHacked in DOS to do the trick.

30 minutes ago, ILIKEDOOM2 said:

4. GLBOOM, PRBOOM

ahhh yes another better source port  i prefer this but i need the crispy like in chocolate doom and im like friggin playing GTA San Andreas in 1080p without widescreen fix mod and here's what i want too i want the port to be modifiable in resource hacker and i want the port to add multiplayer like chocolate did i want to be compatible with vanilla doom and i want the option to toggle off the option of the source port i want it to be executable on the port btw 

• If you want to mix Crispy Doom features with PrBoom, make one yourself or check out other ports like Doom Retro or Woof.
• GTA: SA is a vastly different game than Doom so the comparison goes out of the window. At this point in your comment, you aren't arguing rationally.
• Once more you mention ''Resource hacker'' - What do you mean with this?

30 minutes ago, ILIKEDOOM2 said:

Well that's today's folks i prefer prboom and glboom

You want multiplayer, you want to be compatible with vanilla, and you want a hoist of other options and you present this on a freshly served plate of tantrum and emotional behavior. Instead of complaining and jangling like people's hard work isn't good enough for you, try addressing your criticisms with more validity and less upheaval.

 

I do not wish to be patronizing here, but you seem to have very little appreciation for the hard work of others.

[inkoalawetrust]

(I'd respond to your whole post but I clearly can't type out walls of text as fast as @Redneckerz since they beat me to it, and has already said everything I was going to say but whatever. )

 

Honestly this whole post just sounds like you have an archaic flintstones computer that runs on little dinosaur fossils running on stone hamster wheels, not unlike my own PC. So I'd suggest that you just use LZDoom, which is also what I use most of the time.
 

53 minutes ago, ILIKEDOOM2 said:

1. GZDOOM

ahh yes gzdoom that source port that everyone loved the problem is my pc can't handle it by good wow take a look HEDON wow WHY THE FRICK IT USES HIGHER OPENGL ON THE GAME?! well you know it sucks! I want the gzdoom to run on low end pc aswell and DOOM was meant to be played without a friggin gpu and the another problem is that it lags on SHRINE i have 4gb ram but shrine lags in its reason i respect the developer but i hate the gzdoom developer.

GZDoom isn't vanilla Doom you know, that's pretty much the reason a lot of the people that dislike it do so in the first place, because it's so distant from the original engine/executable. It can be made to require a high OpenGL version and a dedicated GPU if Graf and co want it to. They have every legal right to do so since the Doom engine is open source.
Also GZDoom DOESN'T actually need a dedicated GPU in the first place, it just needs your PC to have OpenGL 3.3 and above and a decent CPU pretty much, even the 2012 desktops at my school have OpenGL 4.0 or higher, so as I said earlier you probably just have an ancient computer and are stuck with it like I am as well.
 

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i have 4gb ram but shrine lags

I don't know what Shrine is (I'm guessing a GZDoom mapset.), but the reason it lags is probably because your PCs' processor doesn't have very good single thread performance (Which is what GZDoom needs the most.).
 

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i respect the developer but i hate the gzdoom developer.

The duality of man.
 

53 minutes ago, ILIKEDOOM2 said:

2. ZDOOM, QZDOOM, LZDOOM

it uses outdated one and it dosent have more feature than the latest one. 

ZDoom hasn't been updated in 3-4 years now so of course it's outdated, LZDoom should work for you just fine like it does for me though, it's only 1-2 versions behind the latest GZDoom version, and QZDoom is a sandbox for GZDoom's developers to test out new features, not meant to be used to just play maps and mods and Doom with it.

 

11 minutes ago, Redneckerz said:

Once more you mention ''Resource hacker'' - What do you mean with this?

Honestly part of me thinks they mean this Resource Hacker, and that they are trying to make mods using it. And if that is the case, then it reminds me of that guy that once asked for help with making Hexen mods while using a HEX EDITOR TO MAKE THEM.

[A Nobody]

51 minutes ago, ILIKEDOOM2 said:

1. GZDOOM

ahh yes gzdoom that source port that everyone loved the problem is my pc can't handle it by good wow take a look HEDON wow WHY THE FRICK IT USES HIGHER OPENGL ON THE GAME?! well you know it sucks! I want the gzdoom to run on low end pc aswell and DOOM was meant to be played without a friggin gpu and the another problem is that it lags on SHRINE i have 4gb ram but shrine lags in its reason i respect the developer but i hate the gzdoom developer.

Mind I suggest Skulltag/Zandronum? Doesn't demand as much as GZ, and it has great multiplayer.

[inkoalawetrust]

1 minute ago, The Strife Commando said:

Mind I suggest Skulltag/Zandronum? Doesn't demand as much as GZ, and it has great multiplayer.

I think the OP wants to be able to use modern GZDoom features and mods and maps, so they probably don't want Zandronum or Skulltag for the same reason they don't want (Q/L)ZDoom, even though LZDoom is pretty much the only way to have an up to date version of GZDoom on such an old computer.

[GraphicBleeder]

All I can really say is get better hardware man.


Don't blame your ass old computer not running advanced source ports on the source port devs.

[Gothic]

ahh yes

[P41R47]

14 minutes ago, inkoalawetrust said:

I think the OP wants to be able to use modern GZDoom features and mods and maps, so they probably don't want Zandronum or Skulltag for the same reason they don't want (Q/L)ZDoom, even though LZDoom is pretty much the only way to have an up to date version of GZDoom on such an old computer.

I think the OP only like to start the fire and hide the hand.

This thread is just a ''Karen'' thread.

 

Look, pal.

Complaining is free and easy, but if you don't know a hell about what you are talking about, your complaining is off based.

So better know about what you are talking first, and complain later.

You will see how your view change drastically.

[Loud Silence]

Calm down, wipe your tears and try Eternity Engine.

[M_W]

is this bait

[mrthejoshmon]

1 hour ago, ILIKEDOOM2 said:

ILIKEDOOM2

I mean, do you?

[Philnemba]

Interesting thread friend but have ever bother to try...Doom Legacy?

[smeghammer]

Err... I've used versions of (g)zdoom since way back when. Even 10y/o kit should be fine with the settings (gfx quality/resolution or whatever) lowered appropriately.

 

If you don't like source ports, use doom(2).exe in DOSBox or a virtual machine with DOS installed. Everything else you mention IS a sourceport.

[DRM-MAN]

Are there any odds that this person is running a non-gaming pc?, mind you i have a lower tier amd radeon r7 360, and my pc is from 2015, i can run gzdoom on hardware without chugging, unless im playing a mod like brutal doom or project brutality.

As for the other ports listed, i haven't really tried them out yet, so i can't make an opinion about them without sounding biased.

 

TL;DR, get better computer hardware, save up money, then buy the hardware from a trusted source, or buy a pre-built if you're lazy.

[Stupid Bunny]

Doom is a shitty game it runs like crap on my PC from 1989 fuck this game

[leodoom85]

1 hour ago, Philnemba said:

Interesting thread friend but have ever bother to try...Doom Legacy?

Doom95 ftw. Try that too.

 

^{also, I sense a bait...}

[Doomkid]

Thanks for this thread, it cracked me up!

 

2 hours ago, Gothic said:

ahh yes

 

[Mr.Rocket]

OK...

[Bridgeburner56]

Back in my day we had REAL source ports that were just .exe files and had to walk through 8 foot deep snow dragging a computer the size of a small bus to the communal power point located deep in the mountains to use them. You kids with your modern source ports have it too easy smh

[Mr.Rocket]

1 minute ago, Bridgeburner56 said:

Back in my day we had REAL source ports that were just .exe files and had to walk through 8 foot deep snow dragging a computer the size of a small bus to the communal power point located deep in the mountains to use them. You kids with your modern source ports have it too easy smh

Amen brother.

[wolfmcbeard]

I hate it when my 10+ year old Dell Latitude laptop can't run the latest update of GZDoom, Half-Life 1, or Google Chrome.

[leodoom85]

Damn you GZDOOM with you AO, bloom, FXAA, multisample, dyn lights and shadowmap effects!!!
I'll go back to play Wolf 3D if I'm lucky....

[Robo_Cola]

4 hours ago, ILIKEDOOM2 said:

Crispy doom.. just doom without the crispiness

[VoanHead]

You ok dude? Man all this shit looks like it was typed out by some kid.

[Mr.Rocket]

U NED TO GET A GOD AM PUTER AND STRT KILL N IMPS BRA.. :D

[Archanhell]

you forgot to say "thanks for coming to my ted talk", 0/10.

[JXC]

I worked all winter break to get a gaming pc for Doom Eternal cuz my Dell XPS 13 can't handle it. It got a Skytech Archangel that has 16GB RAM, an AMD Ryzen 7 3700 X CPU, NVIDIA RTX 2060 6GB, and a 1TB hard drive for...$1200? Maybe you should stop whining, trolling whatever and save up for one too.

 

Edit: If you're wondering, I can't build PCs.

[Rolander]

You trying to run GZDoom on this?
 

Edited February 3, 2021 by Fireseth