[Now on /idgames!] 3x3: Take Two - 3 flats, 3 textures, 3 monster types speedmaps again!

[MFG38]

So I looked into the ONUKEA0* animation bug that @Captain Toenail reported, and the cause was easy to find - turns out there wasn't a row defined for them in the ANIMATED lump, even though I swear I added them in. Luckily it was equally easy to fix.

[NeilForshaw]

7 hours ago, Helm said:

Video hasn't finished uploading in HD but in the interest of saving time if anyone wants to touch up their maps due to playtesting, here's the raw shit!
 

I missed recording a couple of maps sadly, but at least that's the brunt of it! I loved playesting these, hope everyone is as excited as I am for release.

 

Thanks for the play though. Dang the cheesing of my map at the end :O . I'll have to remember that for future maps. I purposely picked red and yellow for the eyes of the start skull simply because red and yellow were closer colours to each other to make it more symmetrical .
I hope the song didn't start getting too annoying. I was expecting people to only hear it two or three times during a playthough. I'll have to make longer songs/shorter levels next time :)
Nooooo increasing the gamma! D:            I like dark maps :D 

[PeceMan]

On 5/21/2021 at 1:53 PM, Helm said:

19-22

"Grow as they go" Omg I made map 19 first and map 01 WAY later lol

 

The flat on doors looks a bit better on Boom, since it is darker, but that doesn't really excuse it. I should've prepared for people to be able to see things.

 

All enemies are high tier, but all the weapons are high tier too. That's why it's called High Class Bypass!

 

The room you enter on 7:20 is actually the room I am the least proud of. So many issues were found by other people in that single room! But then again, Hindsight is 20/20. All I can do now is try to learn from my mistakes in that room, and try to pay more attention to every individual room in upcoming levels.

 

The secrets seem to be abit overpowered... When I test, I try to not use any secrets, since I would like to balance for people who don't know where every secret is, but when I get around to adding secrets, I always add a lot, since that is what I like to find in secrets. It appears I have created an issue where the secrets in my levels are WAY stronger than anyone may need.

 

On 19:07 the bars are not aligned, I didn't realize. Again, on a darker source port this would be less of an issue. But being the problem so easy to fix (I should've just made those lines one unit shorter), I can't really put the blame the on the player.

 

18:06 nah, I was toying around with symmetric secrets, you may have noticed that there are other places on the level where there is a secret on two opposing sides of the same room. The idea was to make a play on that, by placing, instead of a Secret, an Archvile.

 

19:22 "Very cool, a lot of progress" I'm dying...   

That's partially the reason why I was so self-concious about "A Short Ascent", because I knew I made it in a rush, and I knew I could do better...

 

 

Notes for the future: Work more on the Ceiling.......................Check

                               Telemachus wants more closets with more enemies..................Check

 

[MFG38]

Okay, it's looking like the wad is good for a v1.0 release this weekend. Gonna do a playthrough over the next couple days to double-check that everything is in order and tie up any loose ends that may or may not show up. Stay tuned!

[signaturereverie]

i somehow managed to fall and get stuck here (beginning of map 16)

[PeceMan]

I just found a softlock on map 16, A librarian's Nightmare by @7Soul

maybe the guy's already corrected it, and I just haven't heard. But just in case, here it is:   03x3-16Softlock.rar

[Caleb13]

Huh, some of these maps are really good despite the gimmicky limitations, great work! I gave this try in GZdoom and I encoutnered some bugs:

 

MAP10: you can jump to the secret soulsphere from above, but you will become stuck if you do so. The door should be openable from the "outside", too.

 

MAP16: you can fall down and become stuck in the gap around the "water stairs" near start.

 

And GZdoom reports geometry errors in a few maps:

 

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MAP17 - 3TEK
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MAP22 - Garden of Despair
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MAP26 - Metal2Metal
Unknown middle texture '666' on first side of linedef 2299

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MAP28 - Formula 666
Line 4195 has no first side.
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[myolden]

Those error messages for map 22 are because I used linedefs to label voodoo conveyors and sign the map. Nothing in the map should be broken because of it but if @MFG38 wants I'll remove them and re-upload the map.

[MFG38]

1 hour ago, myolden said:

Those error messages for map 22 are because I used linedefs to label voodoo conveyors and sign the map. Nothing in the map should be broken because of it but if @MFG38 wants I'll remove them and re-upload the map.

 

No need for that.

[MFG38]

Right, apologies to everyone for failing to release v1.0 last weekend. I was hit with a motivation spike to finish up a personal project that'd been on hold for a while and focused on that, but now that that's out of the way, I can actually focus on doing the final checks on this one and releasing it. I'll be doing a playthrough of the full mapset over the next couple days and, if nothing game-breaking shows up, releasing v1.0 either this weekend or early next week. The wad will also be submitted to /idgames. Look forward to it!

 

Also, I may or may not stream a playthrough of the set in the coming weeks.

[NeilForshaw]

Sweet.

[PinkFlamingo]

On 6/3/2021 at 11:31 AM, MFG38 said:

Also, I may or may not stream a playthrough of the set in the coming weeks.

 

I would certainly be interested in watching a stream of this.

[BoxY]

I finished playing RC1 a few days ago and had a blast, a lot of the maps I missed out playing before ended up being really good, especially map10 which was fantastic. The only bug I ran into is that in map28 it's possible to skip the raising trigger for these hidden sectors and fall in them after the underground bridge section: 

 

 

The only thing I felt was missing from a final release was a custom graphic and midi from the level intermission screen.

For level ordering I think it feels fine except difficulty-wise map11 should probably come later and map17 and 24 can be earlier but it seems reasonable the way it is.

 

Also I realised that I ended up being the guy who made by far the ugliest looking map in the wad, oops. Guess I'll try harder next time.

[PeceMan]

12 hours ago, BoxY said:

I ended up being the guy who made by far the ugliest looking map in the wad

You made a flesh map. Flesh maps are always gonna be ugly, that's what flesh maps are for. They are still an important part of Doom.

 

I'm not saying your map isn't ugly, I'm saying it's okay for it to be ugly.

[MFG38]

Alright, the mapset has been thoroughly replayed, things have been confirmed to largely be in working order, and v1.0 of 3x3: Take Two has just been released! The wad is downloadable from Dropbox and Google Drive for the time being, links below:

 

Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7403i88drhd0mlf/3x3ttwo.zip?dl=0

Google Drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RMMfqCe95qSV2olsI98x1nQ3PBbV7qeT/view?usp=sharing

 

I'll also be submitting the wad to /idgames within the next few days. If all goes well, the /idgames link will appear next to the existing ones in a "moment". But until then, please enjoy the final-until-further-notice version of 3x3: Take Two! c:

[NeilForshaw]

Sweet. Sorry I've not been able to give it a good go during testing phase. Then again I'm a pretty rubbish tester. Everything slips by me anyway :D

[rouge_means_red]

How embarrassing, I haven't checked the forum in a while and I didn't fix the softlock on my map! (luckily it's not a terribly bad one as you're likely to die when you fall into it)

 

It's a very simple solution, @MFG38 if you want to you can add to the final wad without having to copy my wad again. Just add this little diagonal line in the center of this platform with action 109 and tag 26:

 

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[MFG38]

Wad's up on /idgames. https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/3x3ttwo

[NeilForshaw]

Awwwweeesum.

 

Still need to finish playing through it 😱

[NuMetalManiak]

Congrats on the release! I enjoyed the first 3x3 but this? I enjoyed MUCH MORE. Especially MAP10 and the last few maps were both super-interesting gimmick maps but I feel every map had some shining moment to them which made each one fun in a way. No problems to report!

[MFG38]

Gonna be streaming a playthrough of 3x3: Take Two today. Tune in to https://www.twitch.tv/mfg38 in about 6 hours and join the fun!

 

[MFG38]

Going live now! https://www.twitch.tv/mfg38

 

Stream called off early due to crashing issues. New attempt coming whenever I get that long-desired new PC and can have a stable stream going.

Edited July 1, 2021 by MFG38

[netcurse2000]

Amazing megawad. Some maps are very interesting.