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2 hours ago, varth said:

Don't blame metalcore on Black Flag

I'm just going by what others have said. I'm an oldschool punk rocker and while I like metal, I tend to prefer either oldschool Black Sabbath, Blue Cheer (protometal, really) and Trouble style, or New Wave of British Heavy Metal like Motorhead, Girlschool and Tank, all of which are really more rock and roll than metal, or crossover thrash like Suicidal Tendencies, Agnostic Front, The Accused and Siberian Meat Grinder, which IMO seems like the perfect marriage of punk and metal. The closer metal is to punk, the more I like it. ;)

 

I'm honestly not really sure what Metalcore is. I did a quick check into Earth Crisis and Shai Hulud, and wasn't encouraged to hear more. It seemed like weak emo metal to me. I hope it's not all like that. 

 

The first time I ever heard of metalcore was because of Hatebreed's cover of "Thirsty And Miserable," which I really like. So, for an unusual 4-post day, why not include that? ;)

 

 

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@Steve D, metalcore and crossover thrash are very different things.  Metalcore is bullshit evolved from nu-metal; whiny trash with a more biting guitar tone and the occasional tough-guy breakdown.  It's really neither hardcore nor metal; it's just garbage.

 

(Also, no mention of D.R.I. or Cro-Mags in your crossover thrash listing?  HERESY!)

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1 minute ago, Cynical said:

@Steve D, metalcore and crossover thrash are very different things.  Metalcore is bullshit evolved from nu-metal; whiny trash with a more biting guitar tone and the occasional tough-guy breakdown.  It's really neither hardcore nor metal; it's just garbage.

 

(Also, no mention of D.R.I. or Cro-Mags in your crossover thrash listing?  HERESY!)

Thank you!!!!!!

 

I was thinking numetal, too, which can also be defined as, "weak emo metal." You're right, what little I've heard definitely sounds nothing like hardcore punk or hardcore metal. It's just . . . I don't know what to say except maybe repulsive? :D

 

The Wiki article on metalcore also lists Discharge and Bad Brains -- arguably the two greatest punk bands of all time -- as progenitors. If metalcore actually came from such roots, it would not sound like Earth Crisis or Shai Hulud. Oh, well.

 

I hang my head in shame for not listing D.R.I. and Cro-Mags, but at least I did mention other crossover thrash bands from those cities. :D

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3 minutes ago, Steve D said:

I hang my head in shame for not listing D.R.I. and Cro-Mags, but at least I did mention other crossover thrash bands from those cities. :D

No you didn't -- D.R.I. are originally from Houston!  Don't try to claim them as a So-Cal band when talking to a Texan!

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23 minutes ago, Cynical said:

No you didn't -- D.R.I. are originally from Houston!  Don't try to claim them as a So-Cal band when talking to a Texan!

Okay, you got me! ;D

 

Edit: Whoops! I forgot to add, my apologies. I'm a regionalist, too. These things matter.

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48 minutes ago, Mayhem666 said:

That's really awesome from a band that is nearly 50 years old. 

Exactly that! I too was pleasantly surprised when I listened to the song.

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